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What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

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What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Send him to Washington for Montez Sweat. Yeah right, like the "Commanders" are going to fall for that.
Originally posted by Oldknees:
New guy here. Anyway, why draft pick(s)? How about a trade for couple of defensive backs, for instance?

You would have to find a team with a couple defensive backs that A we want and B they are willing to part with and C the contracts of all involved work out. That would be difficult to find.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just your friendly reminder that:

-Sam Darnold was 23 years old when the trade was completed. He was believed to still have promise/upside.

-NFL franchises are arrogant. It doesnt matter that Darnold sucked for the Jets. NFL teams believe they are smarter/better coached than other teams.

You tell people to come back to reality, but you ignore the reality of this Darnold situation.

There's no reason that they should settle for anything less than a 2nd for Garoppolo. Lots of teams with immediate needs at quarterback, not many game-ready options that will be available in the draft, with enough teams in the market, a 2nd and a conditional 4th or 5th is entirely reasonable.

Just going down the list of potential Garoppolo suitors you have the following at first glance:

-Pittsburgh
-Tampa
-Washington
-Houston
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just your friendly reminder that:

-Sam Darnold was 23 years old when the trade was completed. He was believed to still have promise/upside.

-NFL franchises are arrogant. It doesnt matter that Darnold sucked for the Jets. NFL teams believe they are smarter/better coached than other teams.

You tell people to come back to reality, but you ignore the reality of this Darnold situation.

There's no reason that they should settle for anything less than a 2nd for Garoppolo. Lots of teams with immediate needs at quarterback, not many game-ready options that will be available in the draft, with enough teams in the market, a 2nd and a conditional 4th or 5th is entirely reasonable.

OK. That doesnt have much to do with my post but I think a 2nd is very reasonable.
Originally posted by Oldknees:
Send him to Washington for Montez Sweat. Yeah right, like the "Commanders" are going to fall for that.

I have been posting NBA style trade ideas in here for fun/discussion. A good one is JG and Eli Mitchell to the Panthers for McCaffrey and Sam Darnold. With the Admirals how about JG straight up for Terry McLaurin. Imagine Trey with the deep ball to Terry.
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
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Just your friendly reminder that:

-Sam Darnold was 23 years old when the trade was completed. He was believed to still have promise/upside.

-NFL franchises are arrogant. It doesnt matter that Darnold sucked for the Jets. NFL teams believe they are smarter/better coached than other teams.

You tell people to come back to reality, but you ignore the reality of this Darnold situation.

Yup. It's a lot easier for GMs to believe that you can get more out of a player that's stuck on a losing franchise than to assume you can get more out of Jimmy G who had Kyle Shanahan as his coach and a great team around him.

Sam was younger, drafted higher, has a bigger arm, more mobility, and the team aspect I already mentioned.

My worry is that team already view Kyle as an offensive master, so whatever he got out of Jimmy must be his ceiling. Don't see any teams thinking they're smarter or could get any more out of him.

Which is a legitimate concern, and another solid point as to why continuing to look at the Darnold trade as some sort of measuring stick is silly.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
OK. That doesnt have much to do with my post but I think a 2nd is very reasonable.

The point is that the compensation shouldn't be that much different than it was for Darnold who was a bust with upside, but still a bust that had never been half as productive as Garoppolo has been when healthy. Carolina with Garoppolo at QB likely has a far better season than they did with the Darnold/Newton fail-duo.

Carolina traded a 2nd, 4tth and a 5th for Darnold. The return for Garoppolo shouldn't be that far off from there either.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Oldknees:
Send him to Washington for Montez Sweat. Yeah right, like the "Commanders" are going to fall for that.

I have been posting NBA style trade ideas in here for fun/discussion. A good one is JG and Eli Mitchell to the Panthers for McCaffrey and Sam Darnold. With the Admirals how about JG straight up for Terry McLaurin. Imagine Trey with the deep ball to Terry.

Someone posted somewhere (dont remember where), that we should trade Jimmy for a pick(s) and then trade the picks to New Orleans for Marshawn Lattimore. Not sure how realistic that is and/or if the Saints are truly going to rebuild, but I like that idea.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just your friendly reminder that:

-Sam Darnold was 23 years old when the trade was completed. He was believed to still have promise/upside.

-NFL franchises are arrogant. It doesnt matter that Darnold sucked for the Jets. NFL teams believe they are smarter/better coached than other teams.

You tell people to come back to reality, but you ignore the reality of this Darnold situation.

There's no reason that they should settle for anything less than a 2nd for Garoppolo. Lots of teams with immediate needs at quarterback, not many game-ready options that will be available in the draft, with enough teams in the market, a 2nd and a conditional 4th or 5th is entirely reasonable.

Just going down the list of potential Garoppolo suitors you have the following at first glance:

-Pittsburgh
-Tampa
-Washington
-Houston

Still no idea why people keep adding Pittsburgh as a potential spot. Tomlin has said he wants his next QB to be mobile. Don't really have any great ones in the draft, so unless they are able to get Wilson I see them just getting a stopgap this year until they can draft their future mobile quarterback.
[ Edited by NotAFinga42 on Feb 1, 2022 at 11:58 AM ]
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Still no idea why people keep adding Pittsburgh as a potential spot. Tomlin has said he wants his next QB to be mobile. Don't really have any like that in the draft, so unless they are able to get Wilson I see them just getting a stopgap this year until they can draft their future mobile quarterback.

Any team trading for Garoppolo is likely to see him as a short-term stop-gap until they can develop a younger passer. Pittsburgh has a playoff ready roster right now. Do you think they are going to look to waste that with Mason Rudolph or Mike Glennon?
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just your friendly reminder that:

-Sam Darnold was 23 years old when the trade was completed. He was believed to still have promise/upside.

-NFL franchises are arrogant. It doesnt matter that Darnold sucked for the Jets. NFL teams believe they are smarter/better coached than other teams.

You tell people to come back to reality, but you ignore the reality of this Darnold situation.

There's no reason that they should settle for anything less than a 2nd for Garoppolo. Lots of teams with immediate needs at quarterback, not many game-ready options that will be available in the draft, with enough teams in the market, a 2nd and a conditional 4th or 5th is entirely reasonable.

Just going down the list of potential Garoppolo suitors you have the following at first glance:

-Pittsburgh
-Tampa
-Washington
-Houston

Still no idea why people keep adding Pittsburgh as a potential spot. Tomlin has said he wants his next QB to be mobile. Don't really have any great ones in the draft, so unless they are able to get Wilson I see them just getting a stopgap this year until they can draft their future mobile quarterback.

Malik Willis is mobile right? Don't really know much about this years QBs.
I think anything better than a 3rd, and I'd be happy. I also hope he goes somewhere where he wants (besides SF) to be.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Still no idea why people keep adding Pittsburgh as a potential spot. Tomlin has said he wants his next QB to be mobile. Don't really have any like that in the draft, so unless they are able to get Wilson I see them just getting a stopgap this year until they can draft their future mobile quarterback.

Any team trading for Garoppolo is likely to see him as a short-term stop-gap until they can develop a younger passer. Pittsburgh has a playoff ready roster right now. Do you think they are going to look to waste that with Mason Rudolph?

And I truly believe that's what Jimmy will be wherever he goes, which is why I have a hard time seeing anyone giving up a 2nd. High price for a stopgap.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Malik Willis is mobile right? Don't really know much about this years QBs.

There's some good prospects but no one that looks ready to start from Day 1. They are all guys that will highly benefit from sitting and watching, including Willis, Strong, Pickett, Corral and Howell.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Still no idea why people keep adding Pittsburgh as a potential spot. Tomlin has said he wants his next QB to be mobile. Don't really have any like that in the draft, so unless they are able to get Wilson I see them just getting a stopgap this year until they can draft their future mobile quarterback.

Any team trading for Garoppolo is likely to see him as a short-term stop-gap until they can develop a younger passer. Pittsburgh has a playoff ready roster right now. Do you think they are going to look to waste that with Mason Rudolph?

I've seen people argue that Jimmy's contract won't matter to teams because they would eventually extend him. But other people assume he will be a stop gap.

Doesn't that contradict itself? You can't extend that contract too much for someone who you might not want to keep for more than one season.
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