What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Blake_Fever:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just your friendly reminder that:

-Sam Darnold was 23 years old when the trade was completed. He was believed to still have promise/upside.

-NFL franchises are arrogant. It doesnt matter that Darnold sucked for the Jets. NFL teams believe they are smarter/better coached than other teams.

You tell people to come back to reality, but you ignore the reality of this Darnold situation.

The reality is that the Sam Darnold trade is a maket-setter.

That is the reality that you, and others, need to understand.

The reasons "why" Darnold was traded ultimately doesn't matter. Danold was TRASH pre- and post-trade.

So if TRASH gets traded for a 2nd, 4th, and 6th, what does an above average QB who's been to a Super Bowl and NFC Championship game fetch?

If I was Paraag or John, shouldnt be less than that.

And I am sure that they will push for that or more. All I am saying is that theres a lot more that goes into evaluating two QBs against each other than just "who is better."

Didnt think this needed to be said but theres a huge difference between a 24 year old and a 31 year old.

JG is 30 and he will be 30 on opening day. No need to change peoples age to make your case. Just the facts.

Next year is Jimmy's age 31 season. Just like this year was Darnold's age 24 season. The accusation of changing their ages to state my case is absolutely laughable.

The dude is 30 now. He's 30 at the time of the trade if he's dealt this offseason. He's 30 on opening day 2022. I mean you can post he is whatever age you want but doesn't make it correct.

LOL ok dude.

Dude it's not subjective it's the guys age. It's you vs google on this one and I'm going with google.

Jimmy Garoppolo/Age

30 years

I am very aware it is not subjective and very aware of how old Jimmy is currently, thank you. He turns 31 during the 2022 season, thus it is his age 31 season. Im not going to reply to this again. You are wrong. Let it go.

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...what do you guys think of maybe seeking a player instead of draft pick for Jimmy.

For example - Bradley Chubb. In the 2 years he was healthy - he had 19.5 sacks in 30 games. Other 2 years - he had injuries and when he played last year (7 games) - he was not good. But, if you could pair him opposite Bosa - dude is turning 26 this summer and entering his prime - that can potentially payout more than any draft pick could.

Not sure if Denver will do that - but I'd love to pair Bosa with another really good (and potentially elite) end.

Need cheap players on long term contracts, hence picks.

They just need to not duck up those picks.

All in all I think jimmy definitely increased his trade value this year. I hope we treat him right and let him go to a good team.

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...what do you guys think of maybe seeking a player instead of draft pick for Jimmy.

For example - Bradley Chubb. In the 2 years he was healthy - he had 19.5 sacks in 30 games. Other 2 years - he had injuries and when he played last year (7 games) - he was not good. But, if you could pair him opposite Bosa - dude is turning 26 this summer and entering his prime - that can potentially payout more than any draft pick could.

Not sure if Denver will do that - but I'd love to pair Bosa with another really good (and potentially elite) end.

Good pass rusher when he's healthy, but that's only half the time - sounds really familiar. Very enticing though, nice idea. DEN should be patient with Chubb if they think he can get healthy and back to form. If I was DEN I'd rather give all picks.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...what do you guys think of maybe seeking a player instead of draft pick for Jimmy.

For example - Bradley Chubb. In the 2 years he was healthy - he had 19.5 sacks in 30 games. Other 2 years - he had injuries and when he played last year (7 games) - he was not good. But, if you could pair him opposite Bosa - dude is turning 26 this summer and entering his prime - that can potentially payout more than any draft pick could.

Not sure if Denver will do that - but I'd love to pair Bosa with another really good (and potentially elite) end.

Need cheap players on long term contracts, hence picks.

They just need to not duck up those picks.

Definitely - that's the only hesitation to seek a player in return. At the other end - we are very close to winning it all and this could be our all-in move. A potentially elite end opposite Bosa will be terrifying on this defense with Armstead and Kinlaw inside.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...what do you guys think of maybe seeking a player instead of draft pick for Jimmy.

For example - Bradley Chubb. In the 2 years he was healthy - he had 19.5 sacks in 30 games. Other 2 years - he had injuries and when he played last year (7 games) - he was not good. But, if you could pair him opposite Bosa - dude is turning 26 this summer and entering his prime - that can potentially payout more than any draft pick could.

Not sure if Denver will do that - but I'd love to pair Bosa with another really good (and potentially elite) end.

Need cheap players on long term contracts, hence picks.

They just need to not duck up those picks.

Definitely - that's the only hesitation to seek a player in return. At the other end - we are very close to winning it all and this could be our all-in move. A potentially elite end opposite Bosa will be terrifying on this defense with Armstead and Kinlaw inside.

It's not a bad idea. I would just prefer a secondary piece that has a least 2 years on their contract. Maybe a top SS or Corner.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...what do you guys think of maybe seeking a player instead of draft pick for Jimmy.

For example - Bradley Chubb. In the 2 years he was healthy - he had 19.5 sacks in 30 games. Other 2 years - he had injuries and when he played last year (7 games) - he was not good. But, if you could pair him opposite Bosa - dude is turning 26 this summer and entering his prime - that can potentially payout more than any draft pick could.

Not sure if Denver will do that - but I'd love to pair Bosa with another really good (and potentially elite) end.

Good pass rusher when he's healthy, but that's only half the time - sounds really familiar. Very enticing though, nice idea. DEN should be patient with Chubb if they think he can get healthy and back to form. If I was DEN I'd rather give all picks.

From what I have read and also heard from couple of Broncos fans I know - there is some hesitation to give him a big contract - which is what he'll demand - if he has a good healthy year. Again - that should scare us a little too - after what are going thru with Dee Ford - but Chubb is soo soo soo good when healthy and has had only one major injury. I personally think it's worth the risk especially if we are not able to secure a 1st round pick or equivalent value.

In the end - it will likely be picks - but bc this roster is so freaking good and we'd be serious contenders even with a QB with 2 career starts - I feel we can max out the return by adding such a player.

Listing the teams out, there's going to be a market for Jimmy.
Teams that will be interested if they don't land one of the stud vet QBs (Rodgers, Wilson, Watson). I think these teams feel that with stable QBing, they will be a winning team.
DEN
NO
CLE
PIT

Need a QB, but still rebuilding. Less likely to trade for Jimmy:
WAS
CAR
HOU

Edits?

Nothing.

Teams know the 49ers aren't bringing him back and will just wait for his release.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...what do you guys think of maybe seeking a player instead of draft pick for Jimmy.

For example - Bradley Chubb. In the 2 years he was healthy - he had 19.5 sacks in 30 games. Other 2 years - he had injuries and when he played last year (7 games) - he was not good. But, if you could pair him opposite Bosa - dude is turning 26 this summer and entering his prime - that can potentially payout more than any draft pick could.

Not sure if Denver will do that - but I'd love to pair Bosa with another really good (and potentially elite) end.

Need cheap players on long term contracts, hence picks.

They just need to not duck up those picks.

Definitely - that's the only hesitation to seek a player in return. At the other end - we are very close to winning it all and this could be our all-in move. A potentially elite end opposite Bosa will be terrifying on this defense with Armstead and Kinlaw inside.

It's not a bad idea. I would just prefer a secondary piece that has a least 2 years on their contract. Maybe a top SS or Corner.

That'll be fine too. Unlikely to get a really good one with 2 years left on contract though. Our best bet will be someone who is in the last year of their contract and team doesn't really want to pay that player their asking price. With Dee Ford and McGlinchy coming off the books in 2023 - we should have enough cap space to re-sign if that player has a big year.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...what do you guys think of maybe seeking a player instead of draft pick for Jimmy.

For example - Bradley Chubb. In the 2 years he was healthy - he had 19.5 sacks in 30 games. Other 2 years - he had injuries and when he played last year (7 games) - he was not good. But, if you could pair him opposite Bosa - dude is turning 26 this summer and entering his prime - that can potentially payout more than any draft pick could.

Not sure if Denver will do that - but I'd love to pair Bosa with another really good (and potentially elite) end.

Need cheap players on long term contracts, hence picks.

They just need to not duck up those picks.

Definitely - that's the only hesitation to seek a player in return. At the other end - we are very close to winning it all and this could be our all-in move. A potentially elite end opposite Bosa will be terrifying on this defense with Armstead and Kinlaw inside.

It's not a bad idea. I would just prefer a secondary piece that has a least 2 years on their contract. Maybe a top SS or Corner.

An established player wouldn't be a bad idea, though I assume they'd end up costing some money. I guess it depends on the player and what their contract situation.
There's precedence:

In 2018, the Chiefs traded Alex Smith to Washington for a 3rd rounder and Kendall Fuller, CB. He was still on his original rookie contract, so his cap hits for his two years in KC were $650k and $2M. He ended up being the starting CB after Marcus Peters was traded, and was the one who intercepted Jimmy in the Super Bowl. After that, he cashed in on Free Agency and signed a 4 year, $40M contract with Washington.

Shoot... I'd gladly take a third rounder and a starting level CB on his rookie contract for Jimmy.

Originally posted by susweel:
Nothing.

Teams know the 49ers aren't bringing him back and will just wait for his release.

This. Once he's a FA - he can go to all the teams that want him and play for all of them.

Originally posted by thl408:
Listing the teams out, there's going to be a market for Jimmy.
Teams that will be interested if they don't land one of the stud vet QBs (Rodgers, Wilson, Watson). I think these teams feel that with stable QBing, they will be a winning team.
DEN
NO
CLE
PIT

Need a QB, but still rebuilding. Less likely to trade for Jimmy:
WAS
CAR
HOU

Edits?

Denver would be a good fit with Hackett. He is better than Bridgewater. The steelers seems to be the popular pick and would be am amazing situation for him there. Cleveland would be interesting for sure. He's a hell of a lot more likeable than Baker is and could bring fantastic leadership to get everyone to focus there.
New Orleans doesn't have a lot of cap room to trade for him but if Payton were there he definitely would be an awesome fit there.

I think Carolina would turn into playoff contenders with Jimmy. They have a solid squad, not fantastic, but solid. Jury is still out on their coach though. f**k WFT and Houston and their terrible ownerships.

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Denver would be a good fit with Hackett. He is better than Bridgewater. The steelers seems to be the popular pick and would be am amazing situation for him there. Cleveland would be interesting for sure. He's a hell of a lot more likeable than Baker is and could bring fantastic leadership to get everyone to focus there.
New Orleans doesn't have a lot of cap room to trade for him but if Payton were there he definitely would be an awesome fit there.

I think Carolina would turn into playoff contenders with Jimmy. They have a solid squad, not fantastic, but solid. Jury is still out on their coach though. f**k WFT and Houston and their terrible ownerships.

I wonder how Jimmy would do in Pittsburgh. Their offense does seem to run a lot of crossers, so that'd pair well with Jimmy's preference for throwing over the middle.
I think they'd like his efficiency, but I do wonder how that Tomlin and that fanbase would feel about Jimmy's penchant for turnovers.

A fruit basket.