What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by thl408:
Listing the teams out, there's going to be a market for Jimmy.
Teams that will be interested if they don't land one of the stud vet QBs (Rodgers, Wilson, Watson). I think these teams feel that with stable QBing, they will be a winning team.
DEN
NO
CLE
PIT

Need a QB, but still rebuilding. Less likely to trade for Jimmy:
WAS
CAR
HOU

Edits?

Add Indy and Tampa as potential buyers.

Depending on Matt Ryan, ATL as well.

IND and ATL are pot committed to their QBs since Wentz($28) and Ryan($48, lol) have huge cap hits for 2022, and large dead cap if moved. Tampa, maybe, but Arians likes to push the ball downfield so I'm not sure there's a skillset to scheme fit.

Tampa I would put on the list simply because they have a need now. But I agree JG isn't the type of QB that Arians is probably looking for.

Indy has refused to commit to Wentz for next season. Idknhow and if it can work financially speaking though.

I'm looking at Spotrac and Wentz has a $28 cap hit for for 2022, I don't think another team will trade for that.
If IND cuts Wentz, it's a $15 dead cap hit. I guess that's not too bad, but then we'll need to factor in assets traded to acquire Jimmy and Jimmy's $27 cap hit added to IND. That means give draft picks + $42 QB cap hit in 2022 to upgrade from Wentz to Jimmy.

That'd be like paying a dealership 10 grand to upgrade from a Honda Civic to a Toyota Corolla.

Do Vikings' fans see Cousins as an issue? Titans' fans with Tannehill?

Really feels like Garoppolo is an on island of being unloved all by himself.

I remember back in 2010 talking to another Niner fan about replacing Alex Smith, and literally every single QB was considered on some level. Don't think anyone was a downright dismissal.

And it wasn't like Smith sucked either, just wasn't amazing.

I want the 49ers to win a Super Bowl, but would love if Jimmy could do big things in his next step ..........hopefully a team I don't hate!

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Do Vikings' fans see Cousins as an issue? Titans' fans with Tannehill?

Really feels like Garoppolo is an on island of being unloved all by himself.

I remember back in 2010 talking to another Niner fan about replacing Alex Smith, and literally every single QB was considered on some level. Don't think anyone was a downright dismissal.

And it wasn't like Smith sucked either, just wasn't amazing.

I want the 49ers to win a Super Bowl, but would love if Jimmy could do big things in his next step ..........hopefully a team I don't hate!

Cousins had a really good year. Defense was not good, and Cook was also banged up a bunch and rarely played like he's capable, Cousins not the issue there.

Ryan? Ya I'm sure they would like more out their QB play, just like we did this year, so I doubt he's the missing key. That team would be deadly with a QB like Wilson.

He's gonna go to a team that really doesn't have a QB right now. Denver, Pitt, possibly the Bucs.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Let's work with our buddy Martin and do a three-way trade:
Jimmy to Vegas (reunites with McDaniels)
Carr to Wash (big upgrade at QB for them, and they trade him out of the AFC)
Wash 2nd rounder to us.

Everyone wins and we get a 2nd and 22 mill off the books.
Use our two 2nds on a Center to groom and a legit CB.

Granted McDaniels is an absolute moron with QBs... speaking as a denver resident when he went with Orton and Tebow, kicked Marshall out of Denver and pretty much set the franchise back for years until Elway convinced Peyton to take the Broncos over the Niners.

So it isnt out of the wheelhouse for McDaniels to kick Carr to the curb... but if you have Carr without any draft picks lost vs JG with draft picks lost, you go with Carr 10 out of 10 times. But with his past he will most likely jump on a QB he thinks he can make his name on through the draft vs a trade. Thats his whole deal, showing that it wasnt BB and TB that made him great but that he was the great OC that made them perform at an elite level.

In my scenario, he wouldn't lose any picks, Pitt would trade a 2nd to us.

This recently from Maiocco (may have already been posted):

The bottom line is that the 49ers can be expected to receive at worst a second-round draft pick and, perhaps, another pick or two for Garoppolo to clear the way for Lance to take over as the starter this year.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Peter King keeps saying first rounder.

Steelers have pick #20 overall - which sounds about right for a starting QB (since they don't quite have any other options). Could be JG + a 4th for pick #20?

Everyone keeps saying Pittsburgh. I do not see it. That is a franchise that values draft picks and builds their team through the draft. And they want a mobile QB.

Because Ben was a mobile QB?
i think Pitt has the offense that fits Jimmy. A run first team that needs a QB to make key throws.

I see also him fitting at Tampa, Denver. I'm not liking him at Oak, and probably not Indy. Maybe Washington.

No, because that's what Mike Tomlin said.

https://fansided.com/2022/01/18/steelers-mike-tomlin-qb-preference-ben-roethlisberger/

That's a great find.

the article also says they should target Marriota. I think their line is built for a pocket passer and their power run game so I would still think he's a fit there.

Originally posted by mitpdub:
That's a great find.

the article also says they should target Marriota. I think their line is built for a pocket passer and their power run game so I would still think he's a fit there.

LOL!!!

Their line isnt "built" in the slightest bit. They have one of the worst offensive lines in football, pass protection and run blocking combined.

Even with all the noise,...I'd be floored if we get anything higher than a 3rd.

It'd require @ least 2 teams competing because as someone recently said -- although others brushed it off -- teams KNOW we'd have to cut him, and if that were the case, they'd get an even better shot with him having no leverage.

The only reason right now to trade for him is to keep him from another team.

The question then is "what would you be willing to give up to keep him from going somewhere else?"

I don't know why I put CLE as a possible trade partner. I think Jimmy would fit in nicely with that roster (run game/defense), but CLE seems committed to Baker for 2022.

It would be interesting to see what the poll results would be if the poll was restarted since the loss.

Originally posted by thl408:
I don't know why I put CLE as a possible trade partner. I think Jimmy would fit in nicely with that roster (run game/defense), but CLE seems committed to Baker for 2022.

More stuck with Baker. Options being guaranteed limits what they can do with him.

Originally posted by thl408:
I don't know why I put CLE as a possible trade partner. I think Jimmy would fit in nicely with that roster (run game/defense), but CLE seems committed to Baker for 2022.

That is their public comment but I wonder if they are locked into that. IIRC, he was near the lead in passes blocked. He also seems to attract a lot of attention to himself. Would Cleveland be willing to bring in a more team-oriented Garoppolo?

I agree the Browns would be down the list but not out of the question.

I think Pittsburg is the destination. Get JG out of the NFC cause every team fears a traded player coming back to haunt them, and honestly is an offense that's already set up to cater to that intermediate to short game that Jimmy works best in. They have some weapons and would essentially replace Bens salary with Jimmy's which are close in actual $ paid in 21.

I still contend there is 0 chance we get a 2nd, much less a 2nd plus for JG. I just see too much fallacy in his game.

Originally posted by random49er:
Even with all the noise,...I'd be floored if we get anything higher than a 3rd.

It'd require @ least 2 teams competing because as someone recently said -- although others brushed it off -- teams KNOW we'd have to cut him, and if that were the case, they'd get an even better shot with him having no leverage.

The only reason right now to trade for him is to keep him from another team.

The question then is "what would you be willing to give up to keep him from going somewhere else?"

Opportunity and self preservation can be very big motivating factors to make dumb decisions.

If Rodgers gets traded to the AFC then the best 3 NFC QB's outside our division are Prescott, Cousins, Ryan.

Just about every other NFC team from the East, North, South who doesn't have a high potential young prospect or veteran on an unmovable contract should be saying "even an average QB can get us to the playoffs."

That doesn't even consider AFC landing spots.

As for self preservation, coaches/GM's have a short lifespan if they don't perform. I imagine Jimmy would be a viable "get some wins, hold onto my job" short term solution for coaches/GM's under pressure.

I'm not saying we'll get a good haul because teams will be fighting over themselves for Jimmy, but if we're going to move Jimmy the timing couldn't be more ideal considering the draft/FA options plus the recent exits of Brady, Big Ben, Brees, Rivers, possibly Rodgers leaving a gap in the market that probably can't be filled by rookies.

TLDR - You may be right but there are enough factors external of us and Jimmy that could push his price up and a 2nd and/or multiple picks wouldn't shock me at all.

Originally posted by random49er:
Even with all the noise,...I'd be floored if we get anything higher than a 3rd.

It'd require @ least 2 teams competing because as someone recently said -- although others brushed it off -- teams KNOW we'd have to cut him, and if that were the case, they'd get an even better shot with him having no leverage.

The only reason right now to trade for him is to keep him from another team.

The question then is "what would you be willing to give up to keep him from going somewhere else?"

Teams knew that the 49ers had to cut Alex Smith too, and the 49ers ended up with two 2nd round picks.

Outside of Rodgers, if a team is looking for a veteran QB option, Garoppolo is the best there is.