What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

There will be a stronger market for Jimmy then some think...the draft is pretty poor and there's not much else as far as viable starters.

TB
DEN
NYG
NO
CAR
TEX
DC

Those are the teams that I see in the market for Jimmy right now.

Teams that "might" sniff around...

INDY
Pitt
LV
CLEV

Gonna be real interesting

Originally posted by Faithful4ever:
It's in Jimmy's best interest to insure that whatever team he goes to maintains their 1st and 2nd round picks. We can't expect him to play good soldier anymore. His agent has likely been talking with teams on his behalf for some time now. He's going to do all he can to reduce the Niners leverage in any potential negotiation.

The Niners are in a bind. If they play hardball and wait for someone to flinch they might lose some respect amongst the 49er players as Jimmy did right by them and is still popular.

Better IMO to do right by Jimmy and let him pick his team and then accept whatever they give us. I know that sounds sorry, but I believe it's better to remain in good standing with the players. We will look foolish and petty if we try to play games.

The Niners strongest asset is the camaraderie on this team. We shouldn't f**k with it.

Belichick did right by Jimmy getting him here. We should be doing the same…and you are right…we don't want to look like schitz for trying to squeeze the very last ounce of trade for JG. Players would not like that,, exactly for the reasons you noted.

We paid a 2nd for JG…maybe that's what we ought to get for passing him on. I had hoped for more but the players' goodwill is definitely an issue in this trade…which, if a team waits long enough, could conceivably get him for free…same exact scenario as BB, except he did it at the 11th hour. By starting early, hopefully we can do a bit better.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Faithful4ever:
It's in Jimmy's best interest to insure that whatever team he goes to maintains their 1st and 2nd round picks. We can't expect him to play good soldier anymore. His agent has likely been talking with teams on his behalf for some time now. He's going to do all he can to reduce the Niners leverage in any potential negotiation.

The Niners are in a bind. If they play hardball and wait for someone to flinch they might lose some respect amongst the 49er players as Jimmy did right by them and is still popular.

Better IMO to do right by Jimmy and let him pick his team and then accept whatever they give us. I know that sounds sorry, but I believe it's better to remain in good standing with the players. We will look foolish and petty if we try to play games.

The Niners strongest asset is the camaraderie on this team. We shouldn't f**k with it.

Belichick did right by Jimmy getting him here. We should be doing the same…and you are right…we don't want to look like schitz for trying to squeeze the very last ounce of trade for JG. Players would not like that,, exactly for the reasons you noted.

We paid a 2nd for JG…maybe that's what we ought to get for passing him on. I had hoped for more but the players' goodwill is definitely an issue in this trade…which, if a team waits long enough, could conceivably get him for free…same exact scenario as BB, except he did it at the 11th hour. By starting early, hopefully we can do a bit better.

Players don't give a crap about that...it's a business end of the day and they know it. Matt Stafford talked about going to LA and understanding that his former team needed to do what's best for THEM.

That's like saying GB shouldn't be asking for a mountain of picks because Rogers isn't gonna want his new team to "suffer" in the draft. That's not how it works end of the day.

SF can hold onto Jimmy until W1 if they so choose, he's contract is not GTD until then and at that point most teams will have a QB in place or no money to afford him. This is about the TEAM and not just Jimmy. They will work with his representation to find a trade that's best for all parties....not just the player.

We might see the same thing we see every year as the draft approaches. Average QBs get talked up until they're a top 5 pick. That could happen with Jimmy. Most teams around the league view him as a mid level QB but after seeing the workouts at the combine, he might look a lot better as an option. Even though I think Jimmy is an average QB, he's still better than 99% of all rookies. Even the best rookies usually take a year or two to really understand the NFL and get adjusted to the speed and complex defenses. For a team that's ready to challenge for a playoff spot, Jimmy might be the best option.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We might see the same thing we see every year as the draft approaches. Average QBs get talked up until they're a top 5 pick. That could happen with Jimmy. Most teams around the league view him as a mid level QB but after seeing the workouts at the combine, he might look a lot better as an option. Even though I think Jimmy is an average QB, he's still better than 99% of all rookies. Even the best rookies usually take a year or two to really understand the NFL and get adjusted to the speed and complex defenses. For a team that's ready to challenge for a playoff spot, Jimmy might be the best option.

Jimmy > any rookie in 2022.
Who knows if Jimmy would be a better option in 2023. Again, we need to target desperate front offices that need to win this year. WAS seems like the likeliest option when considering the "win now" issue.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Faithful4ever:
It's in Jimmy's best interest to insure that whatever team he goes to maintains their 1st and 2nd round picks. We can't expect him to play good soldier anymore. His agent has likely been talking with teams on his behalf for some time now. He's going to do all he can to reduce the Niners leverage in any potential negotiation.

The Niners are in a bind. If they play hardball and wait for someone to flinch they might lose some respect amongst the 49er players as Jimmy did right by them and is still popular.

Better IMO to do right by Jimmy and let him pick his team and then accept whatever they give us. I know that sounds sorry, but I believe it's better to remain in good standing with the players. We will look foolish and petty if we try to play games.

The Niners strongest asset is the camaraderie on this team. We shouldn't f**k with it.

Belichick did right by Jimmy getting him here. We should be doing the same…and you are right…we don't want to look like schitz for trying to squeeze the very last ounce of trade for JG. Players would not like that,, exactly for the reasons you noted.

We paid a 2nd for JG…maybe that's what we ought to get for passing him on. I had hoped for more but the players' goodwill is definitely an issue in this trade…which, if a team waits long enough, could conceivably get him for free…same exact scenario as BB, except he did it at the 11th hour. By starting early, hopefully we can do a bit better.

Players don't give a crap about that...it's a business end of the day and they know it. Matt Stafford talked about going to LA and understanding that his former team needed to do what's best for THEM.

That's like saying GB shouldn't be asking for a mountain of picks because Rogers isn't gonna want his new team to "suffer" in the draft. That's not how it works end of the day.

SF can hold onto Jimmy until W1 if they so choose, he's contract is not GTD until then and at that point most teams will have a QB in place or no money to afford him. This is about the TEAM and not just Jimmy. They will work with his representation to find a trade that's best for all parties....not just the player.

I believe you are wrong about the players not giving a crap about where JG ends up. They respect him for his character and the Crap he put up with re: the Trey, deal, and how he handled it. He was all about character.

I agree with you, and didn't say we should fall on our swords for jimmy. What we would look like chumps for doing, would be to trade him to a bottom feeder, a la HOU. That would be met with pushback from the players. That would be how you could take the camaraderie of this team and flush it down le toilette.

We will look for a good trade for us, but keep in mind the fairness of it to Jimmy, too.

I have a feeling he's going to the Steelers.

The 49ers have zero leverage. Every team knows the situation, and will lowball.

ESPN simulation says jimmy g to the bucs for a second rounder in 22 What say you?

Originally posted by NDSU:
The 49ers have zero leverage. Every team knows the situation, and will lowball.

same thing was said about the Chiefs with Alex Smith and the Eagles with Carson Wentz. there a few QB needy teams out there and the draft is bereft of starting caliber talent. the Niners want a 1st but they likely end up getting a 2nd.

Anyone have a list of players we could potentially trade Jimmy G for?

maybe a corner or guard/tackle or something?

Originally posted by NDSU:
The 49ers have zero leverage. Every team knows the situation, and will lowball.

Well, I think you are wrong. Unless they all get together and agree a level of lowballing, which is highly unlikely, they will end up competing with each other. They each want what is best for their own team rather than all wanting to do the 49ers down. There is a tidy pool of teams out there who need him.

I think a 2022 2nd plus other picks, maybe subject to performance and health, in which case they would be in 23.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by NDSU:
The 49ers have zero leverage. Every team knows the situation, and will lowball.

Well, I think you are wrong. Unless they all get together and agree a level of lowballing, which is highly unlikely, they will end up competing with each other. They each want what is best for their own team rather than all wanting to do the 49ers down. There is a tidy pool of teams out there who need him.

I think a 2022 2nd plus other picks, maybe subject to performance and health, in which case they would be in 23.

Yup, he is forgetting that if Jimmy is released they have a much less change of getting him. A trade guarantees you do and everyone involved is on the same page etc.

If we get a 2nd, plus a couple more future mid round picks I will be ecstatic.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I believe you are wrong about the players not giving a crap about where JG ends up. They respect him for his character and the Crap he put up with re: the Trey, deal, and how he handled it. He was all about character.

I agree with you, and didn't say we should fall on our swords for jimmy. What we would look like chumps for doing, would be to trade him to a bottom feeder, a la HOU. That would be met with pushback from the players. That would be how you could take the camaraderie of this team and flush it down le toilette.

We will look for a good trade for us, but keep in mind the fairness of it to Jimmy, too.

I never said anything about players caring where Jimmy goes. I'm talking about players getting traded and not wanting the team they're being trade to giving up anything for them. They have no control with that, nor should they...if they did, Rogers would be playing in SF and all we would have given up is a 2025 6th rd pick.

I also disagree that players would have any pushback if Jimmy ends up in say Texas...it's a NFL team that needs a starting QB. There's only 32 jobs like that in the world. Buck got traded to a 7-9 Colts team, where was the outrage of him going specifically there? I understand the term camaraderie and locker room stuff, but people in here act like these men are kids and not acting like this is their profession/business.

This isn't pop warner where you have to be "fair" and make sure everyone get's a chance to play QB. The team has a ton of respect for Jimmy and will do everything they can to help him go to a place he wants to go that will pay him AND give SF proper value, BUT end of the day that option might not exist and you have to move him because that's best for the TEAM, which is what matters to Lynch/Kyle.

Originally posted by NDSU:
The 49ers have zero leverage. Every team knows the situation, and will lowball.

SF has all the leverage actually....his contract isn't GTD until W1. He doesn't have a no-trade clause and there's about half a dozen teams that don't have a starting caliber QB (with limited options outside of Jimmy).