What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Where do you all think he ends up, here is my thoughts...

SF- Only can see him staying with us if he takes a pay cut, and the salary cap is raised next season.

Wash- No franchise QB, the draft is weak at QB, and there's the Mayhew connection. Dan Snyder might not want to trade with us though...

Steelers- No real QB ready to start after Ben retires, and they are old school, I doubt they go into next season starting a rookie QB. I bet they draft one and let him sit.

Saints- Lot of questions for them. Tons of money tied up to T-Hill. What do they think about Winston? Could they afford Hill and Jimmy? They seem to prefer vet QB's over drafted ones.

Denver- Obviously Patton brought over his guy Bridgewater to Denver but how well has that worked out really? Maybe Peters helps us broker a trade with his old boss Elway. Who knows? They don't seem sold on Lock either. Lock could be included in a trade to us. Scangarello worked with him his rookie year and he has lots of starting experience. Could be a good backup for us?

Carolina- Real wild card. They switch QB's every year and it's not working. Coach on the hot seat and they need answers quick.

Texans- The most logical fit in my mind. GM drafted him in his NE days, and they have a real need. Mills might look somewhat promising, but can they afford to go into the season with him and Tyrod again? They finally will have many more picks in 2022 and have played better than expectations this year. I bet we trade him there on draft night for a day 2 pick.

What do you all think?

I liked your post in the other thread. It also had a separate vote that was different from the one in this thread. I do not think it should have been locked. But, I'm not a mod.

That said, I think the 49ers are loathe to trade Jimmy Garoppolo to ANY team in the NFC, including New Orleans, Carolina and Washington. That means the 49ers might have to face Garoppolo once a season in the regular season and again in the playoffs, as opposed to playing against him in the Super Bowl.

So, my two default choices are Denver and Pittsburgh. The Steelers, however, don't often trade away draft picks. This is not how this franchise has enjoyed sustained success for a large part of the 1970's, 1990's and beyond.

However, the Broncos are a little more willing to trade away picks for the right person. If Vic Fangio believes Jimmy Garoppolo is the missing piece to a legit playoff team, I can seen Denver making this kind of trade.

Originally posted by billbird2111:
However, the Broncos are a little more willing to trade away picks for the right person. If Vic Fangio believes Jimmy Garoppolo is the missing piece to a legit playoff team, I can seen Denver making this kind of trade.

If Fangio is fired then it is a less likely scenario. A new coach might wait to draft a QB but if Fangio gets one more year he will be desperate and prefer a veteran like JimmyG.

If Jimmy plays this week could change the answer to this.

The steelers have great weapons on the outside. Why would they trade for a qb that can't get them the ball? Same with Denver. I don't see either team as a landing spot for Jimmy. Texans or Browns.

Probably a 3d this year and then another 3d in 2023 that can become a 2nd if he plays 80% of snaps and could also become a first if that team makes playoffs.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
If Jimmy plays this week could change the answer to this.

Yeah, if he plays through it - it'll prop up his trade stock.

People saying denver ?

Well lets see Denver has an injury-prone game manager qb. 29 years old
his stats for the season: 285 for 426 18tds 7 ints, 100 rush yards in 14 games

what does he make in salary ? 4 million dollars

Jimmys salary is 27 million. 30 years old

his stats for the season: 278 for 409 19tds 10 ints 50 rush yards in 14 games

I know it might be difficult, but please look at these numbers and tell me why would Denver trade for Jimmy, and please don't use team stat like Wins

Maybe Jimmy converts 3rd downs better ?

Let see here

21San Francisco38.38%
23Denver37.31%

No, that isn't it either

Maybe Jimmys career numbers are much better ?
Teddy 65.3% 14k yards 71td/43 ints in 73 games
Jimmy 67.6% 11k yards 70td/36 ints in 62 games

insert *they're the same picture* meme

^Oh man, here we go.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
People saying denver ?

Well lets see Denver has an injury-prone game manager qb. 29 years old
his stats for the season: 285 for 426 18tds 7 ints, 100 rush yards in 14 games

what does he make in salary ? 4 million dollars

Jimmys salary is 27 million. 30 years old

his stats for the season: 278 for 409 19tds 10 ints 50 rush yards in 14 games

I know it might be difficult, but please look at these numbers and tell me why would Denver trade for Jimmy, and please don't use team stat like Wins

Maybe Jimmy converts 3rd downs better ?

Let see here

21San Francisco38.38%
23Denver37.31%

No, that isn't it either

Maybe Jimmys career numbers are much better ?
Teddy 65.3% 14k yards 71td/43 ints in 73 games
Jimmy 67.6% 11k yards 70td/36 ints in 62 games

insert *they're the same picture* meme

Heres where your wrong. All Jimmy does is win, for example he has tons of highlights in the playoffs where he makes big time throws.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by Zachary:

Originally posted by Zachary:
Y'all underestimate him too much. A guaranteed starter, no questions asked. Wins games, clutch, has playoff experience, and good age range.

teams that are "a quarterback away" would absolutely offer at LEAST a second rounder. Broncos, Panthers, Steelers, Washington.

Or teams like Detroit, Houston, etc that just need to start getting some stability.

Bump

This is the list with dark horses in Green Bay and Seattle if their guys move to one of the above teams. Given the size of the field and the by all scouting reports very weak QB class. So six teams. If even half are interested that is a three team competition. Jimmy is a turn key starter. Fragile maybe, but also proven himself to be the ultimate pro in handling a talented kid behind him. So you can trade for him, sign him for three years and draft a kid in 23 or 24 if he doesn't move the needle. That is late first early second round value. Could see two seconds or a second rounder and a player.

And now add Steelers. First round easy imo

Originally posted by thl408:
If Jimmy is traded, I think DEN is the most likely trade partner. There are connections there and trades have been made between the two teams (Emmanuel Sanders, Jonas Griffith LB, Kapri Bibbs RB).
Fangio has got to be frustrated by now at Elway's inability to get him a QB he can work with. Jimmy may not be a long term solution but he will bring some stability to the position, barring injury.

Haven't thought about the Broncos, but that would make so much sense as trade partner for Jimmy. Lynch and Elway would make it a high probability.

IMO, any team that picks him up won't give more than a low third.

He's injured AGAIN!

Availability is key.

He'll be picked up as a "Bridge" QB.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
^Oh man, here we go.

Maybe its Jimmys playoff #s the other teams would be enamored with ?

3 TDs 3 Ints in 3 games, 1 td 2 ints in the SB, 4.94 adjusted net yards per pass attempt as he "took his team to the SB", one "4th quarter comeback" and one "game winning" drive

Oh wait....sorry this is Rex Grossman's line from 2006 playoffs. it's so similar to Jimmys line I confused the two.

Here's Jimmy's:

2 TD 3 ints in 3 games, 1 td 2 ints in the SB, 4.94 Adjust net yards per attempt. zero "4th quarter comebacks" or "game winning drives"

Now, why would someone pay a draft pick AND pay 27m for an oft-injured QB who has career numbers similar to Teddy Bridgewater and playoff career numbers of Rex Grossman, while being under tutelage of Kyle Shanahan ?

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
^Oh man, here we go.

Maybe its Jimmys playoff #s the other teams would be enamored with ?

3 TDs 3 Ints in 3 games, 1 td 2 ints in the SB, 4.94 adjusted net yards per pass attempt as he "took his team to the SB", one "4th quarter comeback" and one "game winning" drive

Oh wait....sorry this is Rex Grossman's line from 2006 playoffs. it's so similar to Jimmys line I confused the two.

Here's Jimmy's:

2 TD 3 ints in 3 games, 1 td 2 ints in the SB, 4.94 Adjust net yards per attempt. zero "4th quarter comebacks" or "game winning drives"

All Rex Grossman does is win though

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
^Oh man, here we go.

Maybe its Jimmys playoff #s the other teams would be enamored with ?

3 TDs 3 Ints in 3 games, 1 td 2 ints in the SB, 4.94 adjusted net yards per pass attempt as he "took his team to the SB", one "4th quarter comeback" and one "game winning" drive

Oh wait....sorry this is Rex Grossman's line from 2006 playoffs. it's so similar to Jimmys line I confused the two.

Here's Jimmy's:

2 TD 3 ints in 3 games, 1 td 2 ints in the SB, 4.94 Adjust net yards per attempt. zero "4th quarter comebacks" or "game winning drives"

All Rex Grossman does is win though

Some nonsense here. Grossman was 25-22 or 53%. JG is 30-14 68%. Pretty big difference. Also in Rex's 13-3 year he threw 20 ints and had a 73 rating. In JG's year he threw 13 INTs with a 102 rating. In rating terms 73 is dogcrap. 102 is very good.