What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

If a bum like Wentz can fetch a conditional first rounder and another pick then Jimmy should at least get that. He's had better metrics, actually won big games, and isn't a cancer with anti-vaxxer nonsense. Jimmy even had a comparable injury history.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Why would a teams health grade be any different from 9ers to Eagles? His health is almost a yearly event. That is not running fancy stats or get a warm fuzzy from a game like yesterday. The fact is he has injury of concern every year until two or three years of proven 17 games a season and he doesn't. Fact.

$26m a year because of a good 2nd half game yesterday wasn't automatically cemented due to two quarters.

He had an awesome second half but many are in denial to what years of stats already prove and some of those stats that are good cause he never loses are from other parts of the team. A third is going to be about it or a cut if the 9ers want to thank him for his services and allow him to go wherever he wants.

I still bet the cut as a thank-you will be in order unless the third round pick is exactly where he wants to go.

His value when healthy is not in question. He is absolutely worth a first. The Carson Wentz deal is the likely precedent - a conditional 2nd will turn to a 1st if he plays 75% of the team's snaps.

The way teams needing a QB now will look at his value is to compare what they will get NOW versus how long it will take to develop a rookie to play to the level he is at now. The answer is that anything less than two years will be a bonus. If we look at the five QBs drafted this year, none of them performed anywhere close to JG. Hence, we see why a team like Denver will not "waste" a 1st on a mediocre QB draft with a two-year learning curve. The Broncos will be much better off spending that pick now on JG. He is 30 with 5-7 good years ahead of him. As I noted in my post above, Denver has a young team that is ready to win now. They would be foolish to take a chance on him being released and some other team outbid them. If not Denver, the new Miami HC might be in play.

In any case, there is zero chance the 49ers will release him with no compensation.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Why would a teams health grade be any different from 9ers to Eagles? His health is almost a yearly event. That is not running fancy stats or get a warm fuzzy from a game like yesterday. The fact is he has injury of concern every year until two or three years of proven 17 games a season and he doesn't. Fact.

$26m a year because of a good 2nd half game yesterday wasn't automatically cemented due to two quarters.

He had an awesome second half but many are in denial to what years of stats already prove and some of those stats that are good cause he never loses are from other parts of the team. A third is going to be about it or a cut if the 9ers want to thank him for his services and allow him to go wherever he wants.

I still bet the cut as a thank-you will be in order unless the third round pick is exactly where he wants to go.

His value when healthy is not in question. He is absolutely worth a first. The Carson Wentz deal is the likely precedent - a conditional 2nd will turn to a 1st if he plays 75% of the team's snaps.

The way teams needing a QB now will look at his value is to compare what they will get NOW versus how long it will take to develop a rookie to play to the level he is at now. The answer is that anything less than two years will be a bonus. If we look at the five QBs drafted this year, none of them performed anywhere close to JG. Hence, we see why a team like Denver will not "waste" a 1st on a mediocre QB draft with a two-year learning curve. The Broncos will be much better off spending that pick now on JG. He is 30 with 5-7 good years ahead of him. As I noted in my post above, Denver has a young team that is ready to win now. They would be foolish to take a chance on him being released and some other team outbid them. If not Denver, the new Miami HC might be in play.

In any case, there is zero chance the 49ers will release him with no compensation.

How many of the QBs drafted this year played on a good team. Jones played on the best team and his numbers were similar to Jimmy's without a Deebo, Kittle or a great running game. Niners fans and most fans tend to be partial to their QB. I just don't see other teams putting that much value on a mid tier, 31 year old QB with an injury history. When I look at the various surveys and rankings for QBs none of them have Jimmy ranked higher than 15. Some as low as 22.

Any team that trades for him will need to have a strong structure with some playmakers in place and a decent defense. A creative coach that can scheme WRs open will help too. He can't go somewhere that expects him to throw for 4500 yards and 35 TDs. He isn't that kind of QB. In short, he needs to go to another team like the Niners.

I was wondering, what if Rodgers really does want out, or retires.

Love was a complete waste of a first round pick. Anyone that has seen him play, would agree.

GB is obviously insanely good. Have everything a championship team needs. But, if Rodgers leaves, and they are stuck with Love. They go 6-11.

Any thoughts on sending JG there?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I just don't see other teams putting that much value on a mid tier, 31 year old QB with an injury history.

This is more than two playoff contenders in New Orleans and Pittsburgh had. If both teams had a QB of Jimmy's caliber they may have even won their respective divisions. You're underestimating what a guy like him is worth, especially in what is a very scant draft year talent-wise for QBs.

Originally posted by RasSuar:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I just don't see other teams putting that much value on a mid tier, 31 year old QB with an injury history.

This is more than two playoff contenders in New Orleans and Pittsburgh had. If both teams had a QB of Jimmy's caliber they may have even won their respective divisions. You're underestimating what a guy like him is worth, especially in what is a very scant draft year talent-wise for QBs.

"Mid-tier" and rankings are largely meaningless in the discussion IMO. Tua, Hurts, and others are "rated" above Jimmy, but it is indisputable that a healthy Jimmy gives you something these others don't... a chance to win a Superbowl. Lots of ifs with health and good vs. bad Jimmy, but there aren't many of these guys around. Prescott? Cousins? Stafford? They are all a crap shoot when it comes to meeting the big moment.

2nd rounder today, maybe a 1st depending on Sunday

Originally posted by RasSuar:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I just don't see other teams putting that much value on a mid tier, 31 year old QB with an injury history.

This is more than two playoff contenders in New Orleans and Pittsburgh had. If both teams had a QB of Jimmy's caliber they may have even won their respective divisions. You're underestimating what a guy like him is worth, especially in what is a very scant draft year talent-wise for QBs.

The Saints literally played their backup, 3rd or 4th string QB for 10 of the 17 games of the season though.

Come on flat foot Jimmy - have a game.

At half time of yesterday's game I was thinking a 6th round pick at best. After the W, I'm thinking 2nd/3rd. Finishing the game that strong really flipped the narrative for his offseason value.

As long as he isn't the outright reason for a SF loss in the playoffs I think he'll be worth at least a 3rd from a QB needy team. If he does anything significantly positive in the playoffs that will only go up.

Originally posted by captveg:
At half time of yesterday's game I was thinking a 6th round pick at best. After the W, I'm thinking 2nd/3rd. Finishing the game that strong really flipped the narrative for his offseason value.

As long as he isn't the outright reason for a SF loss in the playoffs I think he'll be worth at least a 3rd from a QB needy team. If he does anything significantly positive in the playoffs that will only go up.

It's hard to take someone seriously who thought Jimmy was worth a 6th rounder and then after a great half a 2nd/3rd.

Jimmy has a good body of work and a lot less inferior talent for more then a 6th.

Originally posted by captveg:
At half time of yesterday's game I was thinking a 6th round pick at best. After the W, I'm thinking 2nd/3rd. Finishing the game that strong really flipped the narrative for his offseason value.

As long as he isn't the outright reason for a SF loss in the playoffs I think he'll be worth at least a 3rd from a QB needy team. If he does anything significantly positive in the playoffs that will only go up.

Imagine an NFL GM being this emotional while evaluating potential players for their team. Lol.

His injury history will probably be one of the biggest issues. Any team that's bringing him in will need a competent backup because at some point, he will be out.

Originally posted by jreff22:
His injury history will probably be one of the biggest issues. Any team that's bringing him in will need a competent backup because at some point, he will be out.

I'd take a second in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by jreff22:
His injury history will probably be one of the biggest issues. Any team that's bringing him in will need a competent backup because at some point, he will be out.

I'd take a second in a heartbeat.

I think that happens unless we go real deep.