What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
So who is even reasonably left? The panthers and Seahawks?

and Houston in my mind.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What if Trey Lance is really not ready? They want to bring Jimmy G back to start another year. Lance sits 2 years. Jimmy G plays out his contract.

Ok, I'm going to probably be the 1,000,000th guy to tell you this, so please try to stay with me. Trey isn't ready yet. The dude is young, didn't play much in college and has only played two NFL games. But guess what, If he doesn't play this year, he won't be any more ready next year. Same goes for the following year. The best way to get the dude ready is to play him. Also to surround him with as much talent as possible. He is in the best situation any quarterback can be in, the only thing lacking at this point is experience. I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but the only way to get experience is to play. I am blown away that people who love this game so much know so little about it.

You got to tank the season to do that. You can go to the Super Bowl with Jimmy G.

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Tank the season? Congratulations, you've reached full fledged troll status.

This is SanDiego youre talking to. That was official loooong long ago.

I've never seen someone so desperate for attention, I feel bad for him.

Originally posted by turfdoggs49:
Would you trade him to Seattle for 2 second round picks

It wouldn't take half of that for me to do it lol. Could you imagine Seattle trying to protect jimmy behind that offensive line?

Originally posted by turfdoggs49:

Would you trade him to Seattle for 2 second round picks

I'd give Seattle a 2nd to take him. Would love to see him smacked around by Bosa twice a year.

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lol so his timeline for his ACL is damn near the same as Jimmy's shoulder. Both are expected to be ready at the start of training camp....one got paid $28M ($21M GTD) and is on a new team.

His "injury" is not the main reason no one is willing to trade anything of substance for him. His "contract" which at this point is only GTD for $8.9M isn't a reason either.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What if Trey Lance is really not ready? They want to bring Jimmy G back to start another year. Lance sits 2 years. Jimmy G plays out his contract.

Ok, I'm going to probably be the 1,000,000th guy to tell you this, so please try to stay with me. Trey isn't ready yet. The dude is young, didn't play much in college and has only played two NFL games. But guess what, If he doesn't play this year, he won't be any more ready next year. Same goes for the following year. The best way to get the dude ready is to play him. Also to surround him with as much talent as possible. He is in the best situation any quarterback can be in, the only thing lacking at this point is experience. I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but the only way to get experience is to play. I am blown away that people who love this game so much know so little about it.

You got to tank the season to do that. You can go to the Super Bowl with Jimmy G.

Tank the season? Congratulations, you've reached full fledged troll status.

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This is SanDiego youre talking to. That was official loooong long ago.

I've never seen someone so desperate for attention, I feel bad for him.

Good one kiddo

The colts would rather trade for a 37 yr old Matt Ryan who's best days are well behind him....and are picking up his $7.5M roster bonus, adding more GTD cash which already has $54M for the next two seasons lol.

The colts could have given Jimmy something similar to that...more than likely less GTD cash. But said nah we will go with the old man who's play was worse last yr. Face it there was a half a dozen or more openings this off season and a draft class that's as bad as it's been in almost a decade...yet Jimmy is still here lol.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Saints' QB Jameis Winston, who tore his ACL on Halloween and reached agreement yesterday on a two-year deal with New Orleans, is expected to be ready for training camp this summer "if everything continues to go smoothly with his rehab", per league source.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 22, 2022

lol so his timeline for his ACL is damn near the same as Jimmy's shoulder. Both are expected to be ready at the start of training camp....one got paid $28M ($21M GTD) and is on a new team.

His "injury" is not the main reason no one is willing to trade anything of substance for him. His "contract" which at this point is only GTD for $8.9M isn't a reason either.

Again....where am I confused?

No compensation waas given up for the rights to sign Winston. This raises the possible value of Winston, compensation-wise. And even, Winston's yearly compensation is roughly HALF of what Jimmy's currently is, so unless Jimmy has offered to work for free in the 2nd yr of a 1-yr extension, I see no relation to Winston and what he brings to NO.

And where do the guarantees come into play? ($8.9M)

Ok...i avoided this thread thinking we're done with Jimmy but this is the first time I've really felt the team screwed themselves by holding out. Most here know I feel strongly about Jimmy and think he's a solid QB but we absolutely cannot go into training camp with him on the roster.

It's not about draft compensation now(I've lost any hope of getting anything above a day 3 pick) it's about ensuring Trey has the full attention of the team, all the reps and there is no possibility of teammates or fans having thoughts like "well let's get Jimmy back out there"

Feels like we're taking a major gamble dragging this thing out...I hope it either happens in the next few days or draft time. We absolutely cannot let this drag into training camp. I know Jimmy's shoulder rehab will keep him out of workouts for a while anyways but just the whole GM/HC talk John and Kyle will have to do to try to keep any trade leverage alive will be awful to deal with.

I'm sure they explained the situation to Trey and just told him to go on about his business but this whole situation is just f'd up. I don't want to speculate but it feels like us trying to give Jimmy a solid basically got both of us(team and Jimmy) holding our dicks with no action.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He doesn't manage the game well. His reads are wild. Like the interception in the Houston game to the left sideline. He didn't see the coverage. He doesn't see everything right now. That's part of not being ready.

As for Jimmy G he was hurt some of the year. Still played well. He made the NFC Championship Game. He made the final 4. With multiple injuries. So it really wasn't that bad.

you clearly have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to football. Calling out an INT in the Texas game on his 2nd start in the NFL after not playing for a yr and getting no 1st string reps. Why do you makeup s**t? Why do you not provide context?

Jimmy doesn't see everything right now either and he's been in the league for 8 yrs. You watch the playoffs? You watch him constantly not seeing LBers? He did NOT play well regardless of his injury. SF made it to the NFCC despite Jimmy not because of him, how do you not get that? How many bad reads and INTs to you want me to show you Jimmy make?

I'm so sick of hearing player A isn't ready....like people in here have and f**king clue what ready means or how a player CAN get ready. Sitting and not playing a sport does not get you ready to play that sport. You can watch film all the damn time, but that can only prepare you so much. Learning coverages is through in game live speed and reps. You NEED to do it to understand it. Lance/Lynch/Kyle and damn near every single player has said it. It's why players value their reps in TC/practice/and in season.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
The colts would rather trade for a 37 yr old Matt Ryan who's best days are well behind him....and are picking up his $7.5M roster bonus, adding more GTD cash which already has $54M for the next two seasons lol.

The colts could have given Jimmy something similar to that...more than likely less GTD cash. But said nah we will go with the old man who's play was worse last yr. Face it there was a half a dozen or more openings this off season and a draft class that's as bad as it's been in almost a decade...yet Jimmy is still here lol.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Saints' QB Jameis Winston, who tore his ACL on Halloween and reached agreement yesterday on a two-year deal with New Orleans, is expected to be ready for training camp this summer "if everything continues to go smoothly with his rehab", per league source.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 22, 2022

lol so his timeline for his ACL is damn near the same as Jimmy's shoulder. Both are expected to be ready at the start of training camp....one got paid $28M ($21M GTD) and is on a new team.

His "injury" is not the main reason no one is willing to trade anything of substance for him. His "contract" which at this point is only GTD for $8.9M isn't a reason either.

Again....where am I confused?

No compensation waas given up for the rights to sign Winston. This raises the possible value of Winston, compensation-wise. And even, Winston's yearly compensation is roughly HALF of what Jimmy's currently is, so unless Jimmy has offered to work for free in the 2nd yr of a 1-yr extension, I see no relation to Winston and what he brings to NO.

And where do the guarantees come into play? ($8.9M)

Again no one cares about Jimmy's $27M he is NOT GTD that cash right now....the only money he has coming to him is $8.9M. So please stop referencing yearly compensation or it being half of whatever. It's simply not true.

I've told you were the GTD come into play....$7.5M is for injury only (won't pass a physical) he earned that through incentives. That is his money regardless of being cut/traded. $1.4M is his prorated bonus which SF owes him. That is it. GTD money is money someone owes you regardless if you're on the team, NOT if you make the roster W1.

Jimmy wasn't worth trading for and his shoulder is not the main reason for it....people acting like a team would have had to give up a 1st or some s**t and that simply isn't the case. Winston isn't passing a physical and won't be ready any sooner than Jimmy. Yet he actually GOT GTD cash right now. New Orleans is basically saying Winston is better then Jimmy, injuries wasn't the issue. Tossing a day 2 pick for a starting QB is not gonna stop a team from getting a guy they want. Clearly they didn't want him.

Before John and Kyle took over, the FO was a freaking sieve of info. No secrets at all lol. When John and Kyle took the helm they said they would make it a priority to stop the unwarranted flow of info and it really seems like they did a great job on that front. Now here we are years later, and I wouldn't be surprised if they felt smart and experienced enough to try being clever. But what we're hearing now just doesn't make sense. Let's see a show of hands of those of you who really think we turned down a pair of second rounders in a draft that is supposed to be deep with talent on day two. That's right, nothing but crickets. And then there is the very unusual statement by Joe Montana that Trey isn't ready. ""I don't think Trey's ready to play yet, myself, and after talking to some of the players," Montana told The Ringer." That was less than a month ago! Why in the world would he say that? The only reason I can think of is that he was asked to do that. I know, this is all supposition on my part. But if true, I just don't see how these statements help us. Can you folks make any sense of this? And yes, I am extremely paranoid of disinformation. You would be too if you were an intelligence analyst for over 20 years lol.

Originally posted by nobody49:
Before John and Kyle took over, the FO was a freaking sieve of info. No secrets at all lol. When John and Kyle took the helm they said they would make it a priority to stop the unwarranted flow of info and it really seems like they did a great job on that front. Now here we are years later, and I wouldn't be surprised if they felt smart and experienced enough to try being clever. But what we're hearing now just doesn't make sense. Let's see a show of hands of those of you who really think we turned down a pair of second rounders in a draft that is supposed to be deep with talent on day two. That's right, nothing but crickets. And then there is the very unusual statement by Joe Montana that Trey isn't ready. ""I don't think Trey's ready to play yet, myself, and after talking to some of the players," Montana told The Ringer." That was less than a month ago! Why in the world would he say that? The only reason I can think of is that he was asked to do that. I know, this is all supposition on my part. But if true, I just don't see how these statements help us. Can you folks make any sense of this? And yes, I am extremely paranoid of disinformation. You would be too if you were an intelligence analyst for over 20 years lol.

He said that because that's what he sees and what he believes.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He said that because that's what he sees and what he believes.

LOL sees? when? Dude hasn't been to a SF practice since 2010. Joe is being Joe, he much like himself thinks the vet should have been the starter and not the young QB who was waiting in the wings.

Anyone taking anything more from those comments is clearly trying to drive a narrative that they themselves have no clue about.

Facts:
-SF traded 3 1sts for Lance because they wanted a better QB.
-At the end of the season Jimmy said goodbye to the media and made it pretty clear he wasn't coming back. You don't do that if you think you're the starter or have been told anything outside of that.
-Lynch said they will work with Jimmy and his agent to help him find a place where he can start and both sides are happy.

The last two points completely crap on your theory of them thinking Lance isn't ready...that was all said at their season ending presser. They were moving on from Jimmy and doing whatever to make that happen....thing is no one wants him.