What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Depends on if the trading team thinks they're a decent QB away from a Super Bowl.
There have been some pretty average QBs traded for decent hauls
Bledsoe a 1st
Mat Cassel a 2nd
Jeff George a 1st & 2nd
Culpepper for a 2nd
Jay Cutler for two first-round picks, a third and Kyle Orton
Stafford went for Goff, a 3rd and two 1st

Anything is possible
Hopefully a desperate team is waiting
I voted for a 2 at least

Guessing a draft day trade for 2023 day two pick.

Peanuts and crackerjacks

Originally posted by Sourball:
Depends on if the trading team thinks they're a decent QB away from a Super Bowl.
There have been some pretty average QBs traded for decent hauls
Bledsoe a 1st
Mat Cassel a 2nd
Jeff George a 1st & 2nd
Culpepper for a 2nd
Jay Cutler for two first-round picks, a third and Kyle Orton
Stafford went for Goff, a 3rd and two 1st

Anything is possible
Hopefully a desperate team is waiting
I voted for a 2 at least

A lot of those QBs you listed aren't average though

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by stefano89:

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by stefano89:
If teams know we have lance that we're moving onto we're not going to be able to get good value for Jimmy. Why would they trade us a high pick for a player they know we will just release for nothing if we don't make a trade. I say 4th or 5th rounder at best.

49ers have never publicly stated that they do want to move on from Jimmy. The only thing they've said public on Jimmy is only about him returning for 2022. And by saying that they save value. The only people that think a trade is certain is 49erswebzone.com fan forum.

I think Lynch accidently fat fingered the answer to what they think on his twitter account

I know no statement has been made. But the league isn't stupid. A statement isn't needed to see what's happening here. The league knows we're moving on from Jimmy it's just a matter of when. If they were smart they'd low ball the 49ers until we just release him an they can get him for no picks at all.

49ers could hold their cards all the way up till week 8 when teams start to get desperate. They already have said that they have no problem keeping both. And this is of course Lance shows that he's flawless in the next games coming up. Because if he still looks like how he in his first start, I have a hard time seeing the 49ers trade Jimmy. Everyone better cross your fingers if you want Jimmy gone.

My thots also

Originally posted by ltrain:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
who doesn't get it.. i was concerned on CM80's acquired prison knowledge

Thanks for explaining. My prison knowledge comes from watching a lot of those prison movies. It seems like cigarettes are like gold in the joint. My real life experience is 7 hours in the drunk tank. That was me than enough for me.

Most prisons don't allow tobacco. Some guards here were fired for selling chew to inmates for $10 a can…probably 20 years ago.

They don't allow drugs either but they're still prevalent. Lot's of guards are easily bribed. It's one way for them to stay safe. Anyway enough of the prison stuff.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I'll be surprise if we got two 4th rounder for Grappy now..

We gave up the ranch for Lance, the league knows that and Shanny thought he can fool teams who are in need of QB that he made it be known that Grappy was having a great CAMP, and hope that he can go to distance so that his value would be high... but even if that had happened, what team would give up a 1st rounder or a 2nd rounder when they know we are willing to part ways..

Because it is not a question of absolute worth, it is a relative thing as each suitor will be competing against others. Our being willing to part ways is completely irrelevant. I think a high second and a 2023 pick dependant on games started and achievement. And I think Lynch will work hard to find him a team he is happy to go to. There will be a number of teams trying to get a decent qb after this season.

GET real...

i do understand how we (49er fans) would wish upon a star to get a 2nd rounder in return, but WILL YOU actually give up a 2nd rounder for Grappy knowing that
he really is not on the 49ers' plan because we already have Baby Face Lance?

Why don't you list down the teams that you believe will give up a 2nd rounder for Grappy?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by stefano89:

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by stefano89:
If teams know we have lance that we're moving onto we're not going to be able to get good value for Jimmy. Why would they trade us a high pick for a player they know we will just release for nothing if we don't make a trade. I say 4th or 5th rounder at best.

49ers have never publicly stated that they do want to move on from Jimmy. The only thing they've said public on Jimmy is only about him returning for 2022. And by saying that they save value. The only people that think a trade is certain is 49erswebzone.com fan forum.

I think Lynch accidently fat fingered the answer to what they think on his twitter account

I know no statement has been made. But the league isn't stupid. A statement isn't needed to see what's happening here. The league knows we're moving on from Jimmy it's just a matter of when. If they were smart they'd low ball the 49ers until we just release him an they can get him for no picks at all.

49ers could hold their cards all the way up till week 8 when teams start to get desperate. They already have said that they have no problem keeping both. And this is of course Lance shows that he's flawless in the next games coming up. Because if he still looks like how he in his first start, I have a hard time seeing the 49ers trade Jimmy. Everyone better cross your fingers if you want Jimmy gone.

My thots also

... and why would KS and JL tell the whole world that they WILL have a problem keeping both??

...... and what would be the plan if after year 2, Lance still looks like how he was in his first start ???

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
This. I honestly don't see any of those guys moving on except for Rodgers. And I'm not even 100% sold on that one. Are they even sold on Jordan Love yet? If they aren't and he fails, losing Rodgers could potentially cost some jobs. As for Watson, this isn't nearly over.
Exactly. I don't think people are aware of teams QB situations. We were in a perfect draft year to get a QB last year and we are in a great draft year to want to move a veteran QB.

If you are Washington, Denver, the Giants, Pittsburgh, Carolina, and possibly also Miami and Houston, what is your plan for the QB situation?

This isn't the 2021 draft at QB and all of the top veteran QBs are not hitting the market. A few of those teams need to win and are ready to win. A QB like Jimmy is perfect for them.

This is totally team dependent. As noted above, WFT, DEN, NYG, Pitts, Panthers, Miami, HOU, … are all places that Jimmy makes a world of difference. And dont forget Patriots. ALSO…keep in mind, Trey has played two games here and then missed two weeks due to injury. As someone noted long ago, Kyle football is fun to watch, but hell on wheels for those playing it. Our O seems to be a recipe for injury to anyone on the O, esp QB.

Come to think of it, same can be said for the D, and kyle runs the O. I hope Trey stays healthy, but we have to recognize that we may need TWO really good QBs to make it thru the yr… and that leaves open the door for Jimmy to remain here. Granted if traded before midseason of next yr, JG has maximal value and it falls off after that. But with all the injuries, covid, etc, don't think JG has minimal value. There are just too many mediocre teams out there that need a really good QB.

There WILL be a market for him…a good one. $$$wise, the numbers are crazy with Cuzins, Goff, et all knocking down big numbers. It isn't warranted, but it is QB compensation. Once again this cries out for eliminating QBs from the salary cap and treating them differently. They just skew the salary cap way too much.

I think jimmy will survive and thrive. Most likely at places above, but still wouldn't be that surprised he stays here another yr. Question? How many QBs missed games due to injury this yr? And how many missed multiple games? That will drive the QB market just as much as the teams noted above.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
This. I honestly don't see any of those guys moving on except for Rodgers. And I'm not even 100% sold on that one. Are they even sold on Jordan Love yet? If they aren't and he fails, losing Rodgers could potentially cost some jobs. As for Watson, this isn't nearly over.
Exactly. I don't think people are aware of teams QB situations. We were in a perfect draft year to get a QB last year and we are in a great draft year to want to move a veteran QB.

If you are Washington, Denver, the Giants, Pittsburgh, Carolina, and possibly also Miami and Houston, what is your plan for the QB situation?

This isn't the 2021 draft at QB and all of the top veteran QBs are not hitting the market. A few of those teams need to win and are ready to win. A QB like Jimmy is perfect for them.

This is totally team dependent. As noted above, WFT, DEN, NYG, Pitts, Panthers, Miami, HOU, … are all places that Jimmy makes a world of difference. And dont forget Patriots. ALSO…keep in mind, Trey has played two games here and then missed two weeks due to injury. As someone noted long ago, Kyle football is fun to watch, but hell on wheels for those playing it. Our O seems to be a recipe for injury to anyone on the O, esp QB.

Come to think of it, same can be said for the D, and kyle runs the O. I hope Trey stays healthy, but we have to recognize that we may need TWO really good QBs to make it thru the yr… and that leaves open the door for Jimmy to remain here. Granted if traded before midseason of next yr, JG has maximal value and it falls off after that. But with all the injuries, covid, etc, don't think JG has minimal value. There are just too many mediocre teams out there that need a really good QB.

There WILL be a market for him…a good one. $$$wise, the numbers are crazy with Cuzins, Goff, et all knocking down big numbers. It isn't warranted, but it is QB compensation. Once again this cries out for eliminating QBs from the salary cap and treating them differently. They just skew the salary cap way too much.

I think jimmy will survive and thrive. Most likely at likely places above, but still wouldn't be that surprised he stays here another yr. Question? How many QBs missed games due to injury this yr? And how many missed multiple games? That will drive the QB market just as much as the teams noted above.

WFT - if they can't land Russell Wilson I expect them to go for Pickett
DEN - there's only one QB that can come in and will give them a chance to compete w/KC and SD.. and that's Aaron
NYG - landing Grappy will ensure the team of competing for 2nd in the division for years to come, the two first rounders will be offered to Seattle for Danger Russ
PITTS - even if they see Grappy as a "could be " answer, their offer will not be that much
MIAMI - the owner loves and believe on Tua too much
HOU - may just be the perfect team for Grappy, but Grappy will only play for them if no other team shows interest

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I'll be surprise if we got two 4th rounder for Grappy now..

We gave up the ranch for Lance, the league knows that and Shanny thought he can fool teams who are in need of QB that he made it be known that Grappy was having a great CAMP, and hope that he can go to distance so that his value would be high... but even if that had happened, what team would give up a 1st rounder or a 2nd rounder when they know we are willing to part ways..

Because it is not a question of absolute worth, it is a relative thing as each suitor will be competing against others. Our being willing to part ways is completely irrelevant. I think a high second and a 2023 pick dependant on games started and achievement. And I think Lynch will work hard to find him a team he is happy to go to. There will be a number of teams trying to get a decent qb after this season.

GET real...

i do understand how we (49er fans) would wish upon a star to get a 2nd rounder in return, but WILL YOU actually give up a 2nd rounder for Grappy knowing that
he really is not on the 49ers' plan because we already have Baby Face Lance?

Why don't you list down the teams that you believe will give up a 2nd rounder for Grappy?

You miss the point as usual. The fact that we dont necessarily have Garoppolo in our plans is irrelevant. Why cant you understand that the key is, how many teams are looking for a qb. And this one has been addressed several times in this thread. The point is, THERE ONLY NEEDS TO BE TWO TEAMS NEEDING A QB. This argument happened numerous times when we were looking to offload Alex Smith It really doesnt matter about your biases. We got 2 2nds for Smith at a time when half of the zone was arguing that we would be lucky to get a 4th.

Alex didn't have the injury history of Mr Yearly something new broken.

We will see. I still bet $1 he's cut.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by stefano89:
If teams know we have lance that we're moving onto we're not going to be able to get good value for Jimmy. Why would they trade us a high pick for a player they know we will just release for nothing if we don't make a trade. I say 4th or 5th rounder at best.

49ers have never publicly stated that they do want to move on from Jimmy.

We will be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for all the same reasons the 49ers have decided to go in a different direction - durability issues, high salary cap impact, meh performance overall. Ya maybe a team gets desparate but dont count on it. My guess durability and salary cap iimpact will push teams away.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
This is totally team dependent. As noted above, WFT, DEN, NYG, Pitts, Panthers, Miami, HOU, … are all places that Jimmy makes a world of difference. And dont forget Patriots. ALSO…keep in mind, Trey has played two games here and then missed two weeks due to injury. As someone noted long ago, Kyle football is fun to watch, but hell on wheels for those playing it. Our O seems to be a recipe for injury to anyone on the O, esp QB.

Come to think of it, same can be said for the D, and kyle runs the O. I hope Trey stays healthy, but we have to recognize that we may need TWO really good QBs to make it thru the yr… and that leaves open the door for Jimmy to remain here. Granted if traded before midseason of next yr, JG has maximal value and it falls off after that. But with all the injuries, covid, etc, don't think JG has minimal value. There are just too many mediocre teams out there that need a really good QB.

There WILL be a market for him…a good one. $$$wise, the numbers are crazy with Cuzins, Goff, et all knocking down big numbers. It isn't warranted, but it is QB compensation. Once again this cries out for eliminating QBs from the salary cap and treating them differently. They just skew the salary cap way too much.

I think jimmy will survive and thrive. Most likely at places above, but still wouldn't be that surprised he stays here another yr. Question? How many QBs missed games due to injury this yr? And how many missed multiple games? That will drive the QB market just as much as the teams noted above.

Maybe AR and Mike make a move together. The two sharing some love. Not sure James will be on the Pittsburg wish list.