What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

A return to San Francisco, as the 49ers are signing DE Kerry Hyder to a one-year, $1.5M deal with $750K guaranteed and $750K available in sack incentives.

He had a career-best 8.5 sacks for the 49ers in 2020 before signing with the Seahawks last year.

— Field Yates (@FieldYates) March 24, 2022

Hope this moves doesn't mean we won't look to the draft to bring in another edge

This move doesn't move the needle much at edge imo. Depth guy making no money. Imo it's yet another down grade which means a younger Key not coming back.

This.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Another signing JG did not prevent. We gonna RidetheHyder

Another move that doesn't do much for the team. Downgrade from key.

I will say key was a special player for us. He unlocked our pass rush potential and had a number of key plays in key situations. He opened some doors for himself now in FA based on his key performance. Would not mind giving him another turn.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
There is still a whole offseason ahead of us. You can always find a good speedy receiver in the draft as well as a solid number 2 TE. I am a little nervous about our Oline though. I'm hoping that our young players work their asses off to compete for the guard spots cause I don't wan Brunskill as our full time RG.

agree,, no confidence in banks either. mack is old.... i get we could get some good big ten o line guys.. bias there. lol., but i really think it is more prudent to fix or improve a o line by trying to get some good free agent vets.... if any are still out there

Yeah but if you take a look around the league a lot of teams, even playoff caliber teams, have a shaky offensive line. It's something I think the league has had a problem with for a while since the spread offense has been prevalent in the NFL. A good qb will make an average line looks good. I don't wanna seem like I'm giving our FO an excuse but it's something I've observed for a bit. I do hope we do find a vet OL sometime during the offseason..

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
The fact you think a GM is telling the truth about anything this time a year is all I need know.

Yes because Lynch is shown to be a lier overall. He said there was plans A,B, C and one of those situations was keeping Jimmy, which would in turn not make them spenders in FA. What about that is a lie lol? It's what is f**king happening

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I will say key was a special player for us. He unlocked our pass rush potential and had a number of key plays in key situations. He opened some doors for himself now in FA based on his key performance. Would not mind giving him another turn.

Unless he's coming back on vet min deal…I fine it unlikely he comes back.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I agree with this take

i thought the 49ers were more athletic on the edge last year, didn't allow as many plays to get outside of them, and were better without hyder in 2021.

i also think he'll be better in a sub-package role where he's the third or fourth option instead of the first or second. https://t.co/6XMcKIFXG5

— KP (@KP_Show) March 24, 2022

For $750k in gtd cash it's great. I don't think it makes the team better than last yr though.

Hyder as a 4th pass rusher with Willis and the guy from HOU (forgot name) all will be battling for rotational pass rush snaps.

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
So you like the Dolphins approach, to surround Tua with everything he needs before they know if he is the guy?

What they're doing is providing him with all the weapons so they can see for sure how well he plays before moving on. If they end up cutting or trading him he can't say he didn't have enough playmakers.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

A return to San Francisco, as the 49ers are signing DE Kerry Hyder to a one-year, $1.5M deal with $750K guaranteed and $750K available in sack incentives.

He had a career-best 8.5 sacks for the 49ers in 2020 before signing with the Seahawks last year.

— Field Yates (@FieldYates) March 24, 2022

Hope this moves doesn't mean we won't look to the draft to bring in another edge

This move doesn't move the needle much at edge imo. Depth guy making no money. Imo it's yet another down grade which means a younger Key not coming back.

You think $750k prevents us from bringing Key back? You think signing him would scare Key away and make him think he has no shot to sign a prove it deal with the Niners and be able to actually prove it?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I will say key was a special player for us. He unlocked our pass rush potential and had a number of key plays in key situations. He opened some doors for himself now in FA based on his key performance. Would not mind giving him another turn.

Unless he's coming back on vet min deal…I fine it unlikely he comes back.

Another turn of the key so to speak

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
That's my point, we will be right back here next year if we sign the really inexpensive starters as "insurance policies" for our young guys not being ready and the only reason you think Daniels and Corbett are valuable is because their teams gave them game reps and they performed. Not to mention, Jimmy's contract did not prevent the team from signing 3 year deals to any young player that they thought had the chance to play out the entirety of their contract.

The reality is every team has an OLine problem because most are not ready for the NFL out of college, and the ones who are never make it to free agency until they are past their prime and the ones who are developed by their team and are made into solid starters usually get overpaid in FA.

Like I said, I think the team insulated itself by drafting and developing the guys they have where no matter how bad the guys we have play, they won't be terrible. The good thing about being in that position, is you have a good chance to see if any of those guys are ready to take the next step forward, and which are destined to be backups. With Mack retiring soon, I would say this is the best time to do it. It is not ideal to also be developing a QB at the same time, however, I would bet that no matter how bad the current guys on the team play combined with the draft class, they can't be worse than Cincy was the past 2 seasons.

Daniels and Corbett were both top 40 picks, not UDFAs that just needed a shot. I don't want guys learning on the fly to protect our rookie QB. Neither were costly and no they wouldn't be in the same position next yr…we would have a better OL and can spend draft capital elsewhere.

Brunskill stinks. Compton was awful as a pass-protector. Banks will more than likely be a starter and imo was massively overdrafted and bad when on the field…he wasn't some high traits OG who's raw…he was a multi-yr starter at one of the best college programs at developing lineman.

Corbet is costing 19, 15mil in the next two years
James is 10, 8mil the next two years

daniels seems to be cheaper, but we would need to pay more than what he got..(overpay)

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

The fact you think a GM is telling the truth about anything this time a year is all I need know.

Yes because Lynch is shown to be a lier overall. He said there was plans A,B, C and one of those situations was keeping Jimmy, which would in turn not make them spenders in FA. What about that is a lie lol? It's what is f**king happening

He's not a lier... When you believe every report that comes out.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Daniels and Corbett were both top 40 picks, not UDFAs that just needed a shot. I don't want guys learning on the fly to protect our rookie QB. Neither were costly and no they wouldn't be in the same position next yr…we would have a better OL and can spend draft capital elsewhere.

Brunskill stinks. Compton was awful as a pass-protector. Banks will more than likely be a starter and imo was massively overdrafted and bad when on the field…he wasn't some high traits OG who's raw…he was a multi-yr starter at one of the best college programs at developing lineman.

Daniels/Corbett are mediocre too. I feel the same way about them or any FA OG that wasn't Brandon Scherff, that you do about Banks. Other than that I totally get your viewpoint.

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
You think $750k prevents us from bringing Key back? You think signing him would scare Key away and make him think he has no shot to sign a prove it deal with the Niners and be able to actually prove it?

While they're not the same player they both take similar reps. You think key is signing for $750k? Highly doubtful. SF has like $1M left in cap space and still need $9.4M in cap space for rookie contracts. Needs to give extensions to Deebo/Bosa and money just to have for in-season moves.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
JG not stopping anything.

Even Lynch said it is….

He stops the team from rolling over his salary into the future, he doesn't stop them from adding core pieces to multi year deals.

You could also argue that ARI adding Watt, Green, and Butler "stopped" them from resigning Jones and Kirk.

Originally posted by FL9er:
Daniels/Corbett are mediocre too. I feel the same way about them or any FA OG that wasn't Brandon Scherff, that you do about Banks. Other than that I totally get your viewpoint.

No they're not mediocre. That's not true at all. Brunskill is BAD and that's not even debatable. Banks was massively over drafted & was reportedly the worst looking lineman on the field during camp, his one preseason game his PBLK score was zero lol…I don't even know how that's possible. He had 5 snaps vs the jags and almost got Lance killed.

If anyone was over paid it was Scherff who's best yrs are behind him. He wasn't special at all this past season.

I prefer having good young proven talent protecting our QB, not unknowns and backup level talent.