What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Andra:
Now that Jimmy is seeing that his market is limited to nothing can lynch go to him and say "we can just cut you ̶o̶r̶ ̶w̶e̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶n̶e̶g̶o̶t̶i̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶t̶r̶a̶c̶t̶"?

Fixed

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If he's healthy, recovered, can throw he will get picked up by another team. The injury, surgery, recovery and high salary are the issues.

So if Jimmy was healthy, could remain healthy, and didn't have such a ridiculous contract he would get traded? Or basically if Jimmy wasn't Jimmy 😂.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
That doesn't conflict with anything that was said. Was Jimmy not asked to do a lot ? He wasn't.

This is the equivalent of someone saying : "he never had to work an ounce in his life once he got out of college" and the opponent saying : "he won 100 million in lottery his senior year of college, why would he care to work" ?

They aren't mutually exclusive. A quarterback that passes six times isn't asked to do a lot by definition. It's not inherently his fault at all, but it is still the truth.

You're not arguing in good faith. You know what that statement implies. It implies Jimmy wasn't asked to do much because he's not that good of a QB. Jimmy wasn't asked to do much because the run game was unstoppable. On the flip side, if Jimmy threw for 400 yards that game and Mostert only had 6 carries for 25 yds, it wouldn't imply that Mostert sucked as a RB. The facts would have shown that the defense couldn't stop the pass.

The outcome of that GB game was Coaching 101: "If your opponent can't stop it, keep doing it until they do."

Preach

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
That doesn't conflict with anything that was said. Was Jimmy not asked to do a lot ? He wasn't.

This is the equivalent of someone saying : "he never had to work an ounce in his life once he got out of college" and the opponent saying : "he won 100 million in lottery his senior year of college, why would he care to work" ?

They aren't mutually exclusive. A quarterback that passes six times isn't asked to do a lot by definition. It's not inherently his fault at all, but it is still the truth.

You're not arguing in good faith. You know what that statement implies. It implies Jimmy wasn't asked to do much because he's not that good of a QB. Jimmy wasn't asked to do much because the run game was unstoppable. On the flip side, if Jimmy threw for 400 yards that game and Mostert only had 6 carries for 25 yds, it wouldn't imply that Mostert sucked as a RB. The facts would have shown that the defense couldn't stop the pass.

The outcome of that GB game was Coaching 101: "If your opponent can't stop it, keep doing it until they do."

Preach

I directed my last post at Kolohe, but you should both read it too. LOL (4 posts up)

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by HitMan52:
He has zero good playoff games. Cowboys game in the first half was his best performance and he almost threw it away.

That's not true he had a better QBR in the NFC Champ game than Matty S. It was one of his higher QBR games of the season, and we were undefeated when he had a QBR that high this year. The NFC Champ loss was 20 runs for 50 yards and a Tartt drop that's how we lost it. We legit had two linemen run into each other on one play.

And three straight drives that didn't score a damn point to end the game.

Originally posted by HitMan52:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by HitMan52:
He has zero good playoff games. Cowboys game in the first half was his best performance and he almost threw it away.

That's not true he had a better QBR in the NFC Champ game than Matty S. It was one of his higher QBR games of the season, and we were undefeated when he had a QBR that high this year. The NFC Champ loss was 20 runs for 50 yards and a Tartt drop that's how we lost it. We legit had two linemen run into each other on one play.

And three straight drives that didn't score a damn point to end the game.

Yup. He threw that TD to Kittle to put us up 10 with around 18 or so mins left. Shame we couldn't hold it. I think a healthier JG would have given us a better shot. Considering his injury I feel he played a good game. If you consider LAR won the SB to be 2-1 vs them and 3 point loss in their house the one defeat wow we were right there.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If he's healthy, recovered, can throw he will get picked up by another team. The injury, surgery, recovery and high salary are the issues.

So if Jimmy was healthy, could remain healthy, and didn't have such a ridiculous contract he would get traded? Or basically if Jimmy wasn't Jimmy 😂.

It's not that he can't play. It's a lot of other issues. It's very unfortunate to get injured, require surgery, need recovery and healing on the throwing shoulder. Going into the off season. That's the biggest problem. It's really unfortunate. Just a bad break.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
La Canfora says Texans aren't interested

Did they not get film of the Saints game? His flirty postgame interviews? Have they not seen the commercial?

lots of room for growth with Mills

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If he's healthy, recovered, can throw he will get picked up by another team. The injury, surgery, recovery and high salary are the issues.

So if Jimmy was healthy, could remain healthy, and didn't have such a ridiculous contract he would get traded? Or basically if Jimmy wasn't Jimmy 😂.

It's not that he can't play. It's a lot of other issues. It's very unfortunate to get injured, require surgery, need recovery and healing on the throwing shoulder. Going into the off season. That's the biggest problem. It's really unfortunate. Just a bad break.

Poor fella seems to have a lot of those.

When even the texans aren't interested in you......................yeesh.............

But but but, jimmys a winner!

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
That doesn't conflict with anything that was said. Was Jimmy not asked to do a lot ? He wasn't.

This is the equivalent of someone saying : "he never had to work an ounce in his life once he got out of college" and the opponent saying : "he won 100 million in lottery his senior year of college, why would he care to work" ?

They aren't mutually exclusive. A quarterback that passes six times isn't asked to do a lot by definition. It's not inherently his fault at all, but it is still the truth.

You're not arguing in good faith. You know what that statement implies. It implies Jimmy wasn't asked to do much because he's not that good of a QB. Jimmy wasn't asked to do much because the run game was unstoppable. On the flip side, if Jimmy threw for 400 yards that game and Mostert only had 6 carries for 25 yds, it wouldn't imply that Mostert sucked as a RB. The facts would have shown that the defense couldn't stop the pass.

The outcome of that GB game was Coaching 101: "If your opponent can't stop it, keep doing it until they do."

The problem is, there is truth to what he said that goes beyond that game. It perhaps wasn't a good argument for him to make, given that it's rhetoric focusing on the extreme scenario. But, we can clearly see in the data that the passing game is somewhat limited, and the eye test suggests the reason is because of Jimmy being somewhat limited. One need only look at the vertical explosion that occurred against the Texans (Trey led the entire NFL in intended air yards per attempt, led the entire NFL in air-yards-to-the-sticks) to see that it is indeed the quarterback, in some way or another, dictating how the offense is called. Of course, you'd WANT your play-caller to tailor his offense after the strengths of his QB, and use it to hide his QB's weaknesses.

Whelp…. Now he's worth a bag of peanuts

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If he's healthy, recovered, can throw he will get picked up by another team. The injury, surgery, recovery and high salary are the issues.

So if Jimmy was healthy, could remain healthy, and didn't have such a ridiculous contract he would get traded? Or basically if Jimmy wasn't Jimmy 😂.

It's not that he can't play. It's a lot of other issues. It's very unfortunate to get injured, require surgery, need recovery and healing on the throwing shoulder. Going into the off season. That's the biggest problem. It's really unfortunate. Just a bad break.

Poor fella seems to have a lot of those.

A bad break? LMFAO. Jimmy hurt is a regular weekly issue. Not a bad break. He has the durability of a cheap wine glass.

Originally posted by Eli_23:
Whelp…. Now he's worth a bag of peanuts

Around 400 of the posts in here are some variation of this

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If he's healthy, recovered, can throw he will get picked up by another team. The injury, surgery, recovery and high salary are the issues.

So if Jimmy was healthy, could remain healthy, and didn't have such a ridiculous contract he would get traded? Or basically if Jimmy wasn't Jimmy 😂.

It's not that he can't play. It's a lot of other issues. It's very unfortunate to get injured, require surgery, need recovery and healing on the throwing shoulder. Going into the off season. That's the biggest problem. It's really unfortunate. Just a bad break.

Poor fella seems to have a lot of those.

A bad break? LMFAO. Jimmy hurt is a regular weekly issue. Not a bad break. He has the durability of a cheap wine glass.

You see we got Hyder. Add an r to your name plz.