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What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

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What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

The 2021 season went - I believe - exactly the way the Niners FO hoped it would, sans getting to and winning the Super Bowl. It gave Lance a year to marinate and learn.

The offseason though has not. I believe they had every intention of trading Jimmy (duh). It just didn't work out. Lots of reasons for that, Jimmy's contract, injury, ceiling all played a part. It is what it is, so where do we go from here?

Personally I don't believe Jimmy still being on the team has hurt the Niner's FA game plan. I don't believe they ever were gonna resign Laken or DJ for what they signed them for, and history has shown us this administration doesn't pay for OG's in FA. So the only other player that I heard they were interested - Chandler Jones - would have been a nice addition but that is a lot of cap space tied up in the DE's, especially after we extend Bosa. So I think their goal was to really only spend on a CB and they clearly like Ward.

I always thought the Jimmy G cap space was gonna be used for the extensions of Deebo and Bosa, but maybe they did miss out on some quality FA they coveted but were hamstrung because of the lack of cap space. I really don't know, but it really is moot and we can't do anything about it until Jimmy G heals up. I mean I know we can cut him now, but that $7.5m hit bothers me. Rather have some patience and get that $7.5m back in case we do cut him.

One thing we should all feel comfortable with though is that Jimmy G will not be playing for the 49ers in 2022 with his $27m cap hit. There are three options:
1) he is cut
2) he is traded
3) he has his contract restructured and agrees to be Trey's backup

Now why would he do that? Just looking at the crazy QB carousel that has happened this offseason, if he was cut, what team would sign him where he would also start and get paid starter's money? Seattle, Carolina and Atlanta are the only 3 that I think he would have a possibility and he obviously is only going to command a 1 year incentive laden deal. It might be better for him to just be a back up for a year in an offense he knows and executes well.

Just speculation, but I think it is a real possibility Jimmy stays on the team on a restructured deal.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Have you never thought you were leaving something so you say your last goodbyes rightfully only for plans to change?

The main plan was to trade Jimmy but it was never a forgone conclusion. Thus leaving the door open. If Jimmy wasn't an option they would have fully committed to Trey not leave doors open.

Why do you think they were trying to move Jimmy? Because they felt good enough having Lance as the starter...they paid Nate legit backup money. You don't do that with the plan of having Jimmy here as well.

Jimmy having surgery kicked in a $7.5M GTD on top of his prorated bonus. His contract doesn't become GTD until W1. Now holding onto Jimmy screwed early FA plans, but they still made some moves. They don't have to cut Jimmy at this point until he's cleared in June/July (when they get all but his prorated bonus off the books) By then anything could happen around the league, including a trade.

The fact that they wanted to trade Jimmy but couldn't doesn't change who they felt is going to be the starter in 2022....it's Lance. Use some common sense.

Jimmy is an above average QB but they are looking for a super star. If they would've gotten a better offer that would've countered the loss and made up some of Treys inexperienced inefficiencies they would've taken it. They didn't. Jimmy coming back and starting has far more value than starting a 2nd year guy from an all-star college team in a scrub league.
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Again... The goal is to win. Getting a couple 2nds would've helped counter Jimmy's loss. Getting a 3rd is not as valuable as getting to the NFCC with Jimmy.
[ Edited by RackofRibs49 on Mar 25, 2022 at 8:47 AM ]
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Have you never thought you were leaving something so you say your last goodbyes rightfully only for plans to change?

The main plan was to trade Jimmy but it was never a forgone conclusion. Thus leaving the door open. If Jimmy wasn't an option they would have fully committed to Trey not leave doors open.

Why do you think they were trying to move Jimmy? Because they felt good enough having Lance as the starter...they paid Nate legit backup money. You don't do that with the plan of having Jimmy here as well.

Jimmy having surgery kicked in a $7.5M GTD on top of his prorated bonus. His contract doesn't become GTD until W1. Now holding onto Jimmy screwed early FA plans, but they still made some moves. They don't have to cut Jimmy at this point until he's cleared in June/July (when they get all but his prorated bonus off the books) By then anything could happen around the league, including a trade.

The fact that they wanted to trade Jimmy but couldn't doesn't change who they felt is going to be the starter in 2022....it's Lance. Use some common sense.

Jimmy is an above average QB but they are looking for a super star. If they would've gotten a better offer that would've countered the loss and made up some of Treys inexperienced inefficiencies they would've taken it. They didn't. Jimmy coming back and starting has far more value than starting a 2nd year guy from an all-star college team in a scrub league.
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Again... The goal is to win. Getting a couple 2nds would've helped counter Jimmy's loss. Getting a 3rd is not as valuable as getting to the NFCC with Jimmy.
Jimmy is a 9 year rookie

he's not going to be on the team when the season starts.. get over it
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Have you never thought you were leaving something so you say your last goodbyes rightfully only for plans to change?

The main plan was to trade Jimmy but it was never a forgone conclusion. Thus leaving the door open. If Jimmy wasn't an option they would have fully committed to Trey not leave doors open.

Why do you think they were trying to move Jimmy? Because they felt good enough having Lance as the starter...they paid Nate legit backup money. You don't do that with the plan of having Jimmy here as well.

Jimmy having surgery kicked in a $7.5M GTD on top of his prorated bonus. His contract doesn't become GTD until W1. Now holding onto Jimmy screwed early FA plans, but they still made some moves. They don't have to cut Jimmy at this point until he's cleared in June/July (when they get all but his prorated bonus off the books) By then anything could happen around the league, including a trade.

The fact that they wanted to trade Jimmy but couldn't doesn't change who they felt is going to be the starter in 2022....it's Lance. Use some common sense.

Jimmy is an above average QB but they are looking for a super star. If they would've gotten a better offer that would've countered the loss and made up some of Treys inexperienced inefficiencies they would've taken it. They didn't. Jimmy coming back and starting has far more value than starting a 2nd year guy from an all-star college team in a scrub league.
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Again... The goal is to win. Getting a couple 2nds would've helped counter Jimmy's loss. Getting a 3rd is not as valuable as getting to the NFCC with Jimmy.

Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.
there isn't no way you can say he's better than those guys until he proves it.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.

Lmao so ty u prove my point. If he's only better then a few starters that puts him in the below average/ straight up trash range.
  • NDSU
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People here still actually think Jimmy will be on the team come fall? Lol, sheesh.
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by NDSU:
People here still actually think Jimmy will be on the team come fall? Lol, sheesh.

Hanging on to lost hope.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.
there isn't no way you can say he's better than those guys until he proves it.

Like this you mean...

JG 99 rating / 33-14
Lock 79 / 8-13
Mariota 89 / 29-32
Trubisky 87 / 29-21
Winston 88 / 33-44
Wentz 90 / 44-40
  • cciowa
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we have to wait for the nick foles domino to fall now, we are fastly running out of dominoes, no one wants jimmy g. injuryexcuses not withstanding.
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.

Lmao so ty u prove my point. If he's only better then a few starters that puts him in the below average/ straight up trash range.


Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.

Lmao so ty u prove my point. If he's only better then a few starters that puts him in the below average/ straight up trash range.


Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.

Lmao so ty u prove my point. If he's only better then a few starters that puts him in the below average/ straight up trash range.

What are you going to do with yourselves with another year of Jimmy?
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Lmao so ty u prove my point. If he's only better then a few starters that puts him in the below average/ straight up trash range.

i used to think he was well above average..... i now realize he is average or a bit below. if he stays,. it will be so toxic in my opinion. lance wondering what the f**k, 29 million dollars or so tied up in backup qb dollars. overall qb drama. jesus
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.

Lmao so ty u prove my point. If he's only better then a few starters that puts him in the below average/ straight up trash range.


Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.

Lmao so ty u prove my point. If he's only better then a few starters that puts him in the below average/ straight up trash range.


Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.

Lmao so ty u prove my point. If he's only better then a few starters that puts him in the below average/ straight up trash range.

What are you going to do with yourselves with another year of Jimmy?

What are you gonna do with yourself when he's out of the league in 2 years ?
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Above average 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's so above average teams will go after every qb besides him. I'm dead

He's injured. He's also better than Lock, Mariota, Darnold, Trubisky, Winston, and maybe Wentz. So he's still a better starter than 5 new starters. But injured he's behind all of them.
there isn't no way you can say he's better than those guys until he proves it.

Like this you mean...

JG 99 rating / 33-14
Lock 79 / 8-13
Mariota 89 / 29-32
Trubisky 87 / 29-21
Winston 88 / 33-44
Wentz 90 / 44-40
like meaning do it on those teams the other QBs are on (ie do it somewhere else)

Kyle had to change his whole offense and could only muster up a QB who can only hand off and throw contested passes over the middle.
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