What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
He played well last year if you consider 99 rating and 9-6 record good which it is. People talk about the 2017 JG as if it was his high point but in reality 2021 JG has higher rating, better completion percentage, better TD percentage and lower INT percentage.

I believe my eyes. Jimmy was ass last year.

I'll take the facts over your feelings. People look at the playoffs when teams are elite, he had a busted throw hand busted shoulder and couldn't sling it all over the yard, no surprise, yet we were still winning at a 2-1 clip. Over the body of the season the numbers are what they are.

Tim f**king Tebow has a winning record in the nfl. I suppose he deserves the credit for those wins to.

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I'll take the facts over your feelings. People look at the playoffs when teams are elite, he had a busted throw hand busted shoulder and couldn't sling it all over the yard, no surprise, yet we were still winning at a 2-1 clip. Over the body of the season the numbers are what they are.

Well the "facts" say 2019 was his best year here and my eyes saw that he was bad last year.
What "facts" are you referring to?

Post 13097

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Lmao so ty u prove my point. If he's only better then a few starters that puts him in the below average/ straight up trash range.

i used to think he was well above average..... i now realize he is average or a bit below. if he stays,. it will be so toxic in my opinion. lance wondering what the f**k, 29 million dollars or so tied up in backup qb dollars. overall qb drama. jesus

It won't happen. Paying sudfeld 2-3 mil to be in the practice squad and jimmy 27 to ride the bench for a late rd pick would make zero sense

well,, with the way this team.. in my opinion. have bungled this thing..... i do not discount anything

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Everyone thinking the people who know jimmy is crap and are gonna turn on trey is laughable. Ya sure after 8 seasons of being injured and showing almost no talent than sure. But right away. 🤣🤣🤣 what a joke

If Lance is worse than Jimmy next year I will probably be the first to turn on him since I expect him to be much better than Jimmy.
NDSU alum dont want to see another Wentz situation.

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
If trey is playing like this and injured on a seasonal basis 9 years into his career than absolutely.

perfect response

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Lmao so ty u prove my point. If he's only better then a few starters that puts him in the below average/ straight up trash range.

i used to think he was well above average..... i now realize he is average or a bit below. if he stays,. it will be so toxic in my opinion. lance wondering what the f**k, 29 million dollars or so tied up in backup qb dollars. overall qb drama. jesus

It won't happen. Paying sudfeld 2-3 mil to be in the practice squad and jimmy 27 to ride the bench for a late rd pick would make zero sense

well,, with the way this team.. in my opinion. have bungled this thing..... i do not discount anything

We are at a major crossroads with this coaching and front office regime. If they screw this up it gonna spell disaster

Panther general manager Scott Fitterer said Sam Darnold "is the lead" for the team's starting quarterback job in 2022.

Fitterer added there were no hurt feelings between the organization and Darnold after the Panthers' failed attempt to lure Deshaun Watson to the team. Wretched in 2021, Darnold seems to be the default starter for Carolina if the team doesn't acquire another QB -- Jimmy Garoppolo, perhaps -- via a trade or in the NFL Draft. No team is more down-bad at quarterback than the Panthers, whose head coach, Matt Rhule, has to have a decent 2022 to keep his job. Being forced to start Darnold could mean Rhule loses his job by midseason.

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Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
He played well last year if you consider 99 rating and 9-6 record good which it is. People talk about the 2017 JG as if it was his high point but in reality 2021 JG has higher rating, better completion percentage, better TD percentage and lower INT percentage.

I believe my eyes. Jimmy was ass last year.

I'll take the facts over your feelings. People look at the playoffs when teams are elite, he had a busted throw hand busted shoulder and couldn't sling it all over the yard, no surprise, yet we were still winning at a 2-1 clip. Over the body of the season the numbers are what they are.

Tim f**king Tebow has a winning record in the nfl. I suppose he deserves the credit for those wins to.

Yup

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Panther general manager Scott Fitterer said Sam Darnold "is the lead" for the team's starting quarterback job in 2022.

Fitterer added there were no hurt feelings between the organization and Darnold after the Panthers' failed attempt to lure Deshaun Watson to the team. Wretched in 2021, Darnold seems to be the default starter for Carolina if the team doesn't acquire another QB -- Jimmy Garoppolo, perhaps -- via a trade or in the NFL Draft. No team is more down-bad at quarterback than the Panthers, whose head coach, Matt Rhule, has to have a decent 2022 to keep his job. Being forced to start Darnold could mean Rhule loses his job by midseason.

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Well trading for and banking on jimmy to stay healthy and produce is not something I'd want to hitch my cart to.

Some in here argue that Jimmy being hurt at the end of last season was the reason that he was off in the playoffs. They say let him heal, let's run it back. It looked to me like when we did try to use both JG and TL the offense went completely bonkers. One reason was TL was green and limited. But in my opinion another main reason is the fact that KS didn't draft TL to run the JG version of his offense. And there is the reason I question posters who want to keep JG as a starter or a backup. I think KS wants to run his TL version of the offense, whatever that is. But I don't think it is the same as the JG version. Why would we then keep both of them to run the TL version or try to have two different versions? The offense needs to change into another version now sooner than later.
They also say that Trey isn't ready, which is impossible to prove. We gave up too much to draft him when If any team can prove that first round picks are a crapshoot it is us. We wouldn't have given up so much draft capital if JG could stay healthy. Trey was drafted, at least in part, because JG can't stay healthy. But hey let's run it back and hope JG can stay healthy and in the process stunt expanding the offense and Trey.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
He played well last year if you consider 99 rating and 9-6 record good which it is. People talk about the 2017 JG as if it was his high point but in reality 2021 JG has higher rating, better completion percentage, better TD percentage and lower INT percentage.

I believe my eyes. Jimmy was ass last year.

I'll take the facts over your feelings. People look at the playoffs when teams are elite, he had a busted throw hand busted shoulder and couldn't sling it all over the yard, no surprise, yet we were still winning at a 2-1 clip. Over the body of the season the numbers are what they are.

Tim f**king Tebow has a winning record in the nfl. I suppose he deserves the credit for those wins to.

Yup

Well than even Tebow has a leg up on jimmy with getting a job. He wins and he's healthy 🤷‍♂️

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Jimmy is an above average QB but they are looking for a super star. If they would've gotten a better offer that would've countered the loss and made up some of Treys inexperienced inefficiencies they would've taken it. They didn't. Jimmy coming back and starting has far more value than starting a 2nd year guy from an all-star college team in a scrub league.
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Again... The goal is to win. Getting a couple 2nds would've helped counter Jimmy's loss. Getting a 3rd is not as valuable as getting to the NFCC with Jimmy.

Jimmy had 3,800 yards 20/12 let's stop acting like he's something he's not. No one on the league wants him clearly.

The goal is developing Lance which requires playing football. They thought enough to move yrs of picks for him and tried moving Jimmy because he's not the starter anymore. Jimmy knows that's why he said goodbye.

Thoughts and prayers for you during this difficult time

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Post 13097

Alright lets break it down:
9-6 record is NOT good.
99 rating is slightly above average (94 was the 2021 average).
His 2019 rating was higher than 2021. Dinking and dunking padded his rating.
His 2021 td/int ratio was less than 2:1 (20 - 12). It has always been that way since he got here except for 2019.

Did you watch any games last year? J/K.

Originally posted by Lott42:
Some in here argue that Jimmy being hurt at the end of last season was the reason that he was off in the playoffs. They say let him heal, let's run it back. It looked to me like when we did try to use both JG and TL the offense went completely bonkers. One reason was TL was green and limited. But in my opinion another main reason is the fact that KS didn't draft TL to run the JG version of his offense. And there is the reason I question posters who want to keep JG as a starter or a backup. I think KS wants to run his TL version of the offense, whatever that is. But I don't think it is the same as the JG version. Why would we then keep both of them to run the TL version or try to have two different versions? The offense needs to change into another version now sooner than later.
They also say that Trey isn't ready, which is impossible to prove. We gave up too much to draft him when If any team can prove that first round picks are a crapshoot it is us. We wouldn't have given up so much draft capital if JG could stay healthy. Trey was drafted, at least in part, because JG can't stay healthy. But hey let's run it back and hope JG can stay healthy and in the process stunt expanding the offense and Trey.

I haven't seen anyone seriously suggest we bring back and start JG. I think the divide I'm seeing some people want to cut JG like yesterday. Other people want see if JG getting back to 100% health results in a trade market. At the very least getting back to 100% means we avoid paying 7.5 million to a cut player.

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Panther general manager Scott Fitterer said Sam Darnold "is the lead" for the team's starting quarterback job in 2022.

Fitterer added there were no hurt feelings between the organization and Darnold after the Panthers' failed attempt to lure Deshaun Watson to the team. Wretched in 2021, Darnold seems to be the default starter for Carolina if the team doesn't acquire another QB -- Jimmy Garoppolo, perhaps -- via a trade or in the NFL Draft. No team is more down-bad at quarterback than the Panthers, whose head coach, Matt Rhule, has to have a decent 2022 to keep his job. Being forced to start Darnold could mean Rhule loses his job by midseason.

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Well trading for and banking on jimmy to stay healthy and produce is not something I'd want to hitch my cart to.

Panthers would rather play Darnold then trade for Jimmy G at this pt lol. Yet people in here are saying Jimmy is the starter if we want to win a Super Bowl…how can people say this trash with a straight face lol?