What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
. no gurantees of a huge extension but i digress. I speaking more of the timing of the surgery

Jimmy could have did what Dee Ford did to us.. he waited to have surgery after being traded and not really let it be known he needed surgery the whole time

MM talked about this on a recent pod…he spoke to a surgeon he said they won't rush into a surgery if it could be fixed with PT/rehab. They will always try that first…didn't heal, so surgery was the next option.

A trade would have never been approved if he didn't pass a physical which he wouldn't have with a torn capsule in his throwing shoulder. A team would have to know before the trade & be cool with it, clearly no team was.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Glory's conspiracy does have some legs ... like the time Jimmy's agent told him to take himself out the game a few hour before he was supposed to start the game

this happened?

No. That was just some b******t Martellus Bennett was spewing. Not one other person backed that up

I thought he was referring to the Hawks game last season.

But, yeah, I don't buy what Bennett was selling. That guy is a jackass. No way players (current and former) go to bat for him, as often as they do, if he was that guy.

Exactly.

In that case it is more likely that he really wanted to play and was hoping he'd be ready, knowing as Brady's backup he wasn't going to get many opportunities to show what he could do. And unfortunately, he wasn't ready like he had hoped.

Jimmy and the 2nd RD Pick to the Panthers for Darnold and #6 Pick. Come on Carolina you know you don't want to go into next season with Sam Darnold as your starting QB, And do you really want to draft a QB with that #6 pick? In a weak QB class? But were here to help you out of your jam, Saving you from drafting a bust with the #6 pick. You get an extra 2nd RD pick instead. There will be alot of good players to choose from in the 2nd RD and you get two of them.

Then we with the #6 pick can trade back a couple of times and not only get our 2nd RD pick back but get an extra one and maybe even an extra 3rd.

Come to think of it I would trade our 2nd and both of our 3rds for the Panthers #6. The reason I would is because you can trade down and get all those picks back and plus still have a late 1st RD pick.

Jimmy+ #61, #93, and #105 to the Panthers for Darnold and #6. Then we trade down about 9 or 10 spots for 2022 2nd RD, 2022 3rd, and 2023 1st RD pick. And before you say no team will give up that much to move up 9 or 10 spots, We gave up two 1st RD picks and a 3rd to move from 12 to 3. Then at 15 or 16 we trade down again into the late 20's and grab 2 or 3 more picks. So we end up with more picks and higher picks than we had prior to the trade, Including a 1st next year and late 1st this year.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Come to think of it I would trade our 2nd and both of our 3rds for the Panthers #6. The reason I would is because you can trade down and get all those picks back and plus still have a late 1st RD pick.

Jimmy+ #61, #93, and #105 to the Panthers for Darnold and #6. Then we trade down about 9 or 10 spots for 2022 2nd RD, 2022 3rd, and 2023 1st RD pick. And before you say no team will give up that much to move up 9 or 10 spots, We gave up two 1st RD picks and a 3rd to move from 12 to 3. Then at 15 or 16 we trade down again into the late 20's and grab 2 or 3 more picks. So we end up with more picks and higher picks than we had prior to the trade, Including a 1st next year and late 1st this year.

Panthers aren't this dumb.

Maybe jimmy has no trade value, because we don't want to trade him anymore.

I'm tired of everyone talking about cutting him. That would be stupid. Transferring to a new, young QB, and people are talking about our window is now! There is no player who gives you greater security if Trey is hurt for a game or more. It's not worth cutting him if he can fit under the cap!
What one FA is gonna start for our team that will lock us in the SB!
Either way, he will give us return by stepping in and knowing the offense, not resign and put us closer to get a comp pick, or proving he's better than the last few games of 2021, and we get a good trade.

why cut Jimmy??!! I'm not the biggest fan, but I think the media is doing too much.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Maybe jimmy has no trade value, because we don't want to trade him anymore.

Yes, sir.

Originally posted by leonbanton:
I'm tired of everyone talking about cutting him. That would be stupid. Transferring to a new, young QB, and people are talking about our window is now! There is no player who gives you greater security if Trey is hurt for a game or more. It's not worth cutting him if he can fit under the cap!
What one FA is gonna start for our team that will lock us in the SB!
Either way, he will give us return by stepping in and knowing the offense, not resign and put us closer to get a comp pick, or proving he's better than the last few games of 2021, and we get a good trade.

why cut Jimmy??!! I'm not the biggest fan, but I think the media is doing too much.

Keeping Jimmy would be idiotic.

What's the over/under on this threads final post count?

I'm wondering if it breaks 1000 before or after the draft hits. And then, factoring thr spike once some type of transaction actually occurs.

Ok, over under of 1300.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Maybe jimmy has no trade value, because we don't want to trade him anymore.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
. no gurantees of a huge extension but i digress. I speaking more of the timing of the surgery

Jimmy could have did what Dee Ford did to us.. he waited to have surgery after being traded and not really let it be known he needed surgery the whole time

MM talked about this on a recent pod…he spoke to a surgeon he said they won't rush into a surgery if it could be fixed with PT/rehab. They will always try that first…didn't heal, so surgery was the next option.

A trade would have never been approved if he didn't pass a physical which he wouldn't have with a torn capsule in his throwing shoulder. A team would have to know before the trade & be cool with it, clearly no team was.

Depending on the price, teams would've been fine with it.

Overall, Lynch did overate Jimmy's value some. I have no doubt we were looking at a 2nd round pick + extra ones, maybe even an extra 2nd. No team came close to offering that, we bluffed, and now here we are.

Where I give Lynch a pass though, is this is an unprecedented move for QBs in one offseason. You had about a half dozen teams that looked like good options for Jimmy, and all those teams got their QB.

Jimmy's true value around the league seems to have been a 3rd. Him and Ryan are very comparable at this point. Similar cap hits for this year, both would just be a bridge QB, and this stage of Ryan's career he's on par with Jimmy talent wise.

The rumor that I think had the most truth to it was Indy offering a 3rd and conditional 3rd early into FA.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Depending on the price, teams would've been fine with it.

Overall, Lynch did overate Jimmy's value some. I have no doubt we were looking at a 2nd round pick + extra ones, maybe even an extra 2nd. No team came close to offering that, we bluffed, and now here we are.

Where I give Lynch a pass though, is this is an unprecedented move for QBs in one offseason. You had about a half dozen teams that looked like good options for Jimmy, and all those teams got their QB.

Jimmy's true value around the league seems to have been a 3rd. Him and Ryan are very comparable at this point. Similar cap hits for this year, both would just be a bridge QB, and this stage of Ryan's career he's on par with Jimmy talent wise.

The rumor that I think had the most truth to it was Indy offering a 3rd and conditional 3rd early into FA.

I agree that a 3rd would have been about right but now it's a little too late. Teams are getting ready for mini camps and the draft so there isn't much hope of trading him until he can actually play again. I would hate to see them cut him and get nothing in return but that may be the best option.

Ask yourself what would you rather have. Jimmy as an expensive backup or even starting one more season or freeing up $25 million in cap space that could be used to extend Bosa and Deebo. Maybe even sign another player or two if needed during the season.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Keeping Jimmy would be idiotic.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by leonbanton:
I'm tired of everyone talking about cutting him. That would be stupid. Transferring to a new, young QB, and people are talking about our window is now! There is no player who gives you greater security if Trey is hurt for a game or more. It's not worth cutting him if he can fit under the cap!
What one FA is gonna start for our team that will lock us in the SB!
Either way, he will give us return by stepping in and knowing the offense, not resign and put us closer to get a comp pick, or proving he's better than the last few games of 2021, and we get a good trade.

why cut Jimmy??!! I'm not the biggest fan, but I think the media is doing too much.

Keeping Jimmy would be idiotic.

Goods facts and analysis.
Let me help you
How about a true commodity helping get the best out of your young starter, a lock to get a future 3rd round compensatory pick or even better if he plays well and another team trades for him.
If Trey goes down for any time, and it's probable since he is a scrambler, you are on a win now team with at least 4 All pro players. Sudefeld ain't gonna do it.

just cutting him because fans and ESPN want him cut is idiotic

PS I was all for trading Jimmy if we could get something. But with the way it played out, let's not throw away the baby with the bath water.

I thought Lynch had two 2nd round pick offers for Jimmy G? What happened?

Also, the niners should keep Jimmy G rather than releasing him. The free agent signing period is basically over, so cutting him to save $20 million of "cap room" doesn't really benefit the niners this year. Even if they create that cap room, they won't sign any big names.