What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Extending Deebo is more valuable than either one. And is only the direct result of one.

Extending Deebo is actually going to be cheap for the first two years. It'll get a lot more expensive down the line though. The cap is going up next year plus an additional $25M carryover if/when we cut Jimmy, means next year we'll be flush with cash.

We could also target a player with high cap hit that the team is on the fence about paying the next year aka one-year rental.

We do not want to wait till end of Season to extend Deebo. Should be done and ready to sign as soon as this bum passes a physical.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Extending Deebo is more valuable than either one. And is only the direct result of one.

Extending Deebo is actually going to be cheap for the first two years. It'll get a lot more expensive down the line though. The cap is going up next year plus an additional $25M carryover if/when we cut Jimmy, means next year we'll be flush with cash.

We could also target a player with high cap hit that the team is on the fence about paying the next year aka one-year rental.

We do not want to wait till end of Season to extend Deebo. Should be done and ready to sign as soon as this bum passes a physical.

100%. It'll be an extension with a big signing bonus spread across the years, but back loaded. So his number will be manageable. Bosa will be more, but we're still talking quite a bit of money to carry over if desired.

If the team jumps out to a '19 start, I think we'll see an in-season trade.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Extending Deebo is more valuable than either one. And is only the direct result of one.

Extending Deebo is actually going to be cheap for the first two years. It'll get a lot more expensive down the line though. The cap is going up next year plus an additional $25M carryover if/when we cut Jimmy, means next year we'll be flush with cash.

We could also target a player with high cap hit that the team is on the fence about paying the next year aka one-year rental.

We do not want to wait till end of Season to extend Deebo. Should be done and ready to sign as soon as this bum passes a physical.

100%. It'll be an extension with a big signing bonus spread across the years, but back loaded. So his number will be manageable. Bosa will be more, but we're still talking quite a bit of money to carry over if desired.

If the team jumps out to a '19 start, I think we'll see an in-season trade.

Trade of who? Jimmy? He wont be on the team come in-season.

Originally posted by pdizo916:
I thought Lynch had two 2nd round pick offers for Jimmy G? What happened?

Also, the niners should keep Jimmy G rather than releasing him. The free agent signing period is basically over, so cutting him to save $20 million of "cap room" doesn't really benefit the niners this year. Even if they create that cap room, they won't sign any big names.

Florio is reporting from an inside source that the 49ers will release JimmyG, so that all but guarantees he won't be released.

Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Florio is reporting from an inside source that the 49ers will release JimmyG, so that all but guarantees he won't be released.

Ah. Another Grant Cohn.

As soon as Jimmy is released he'll get snapped up. He's like a flooded out Tesla that we're trying to sell for $27k.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

As soon as Jimmy is released he'll get snapped up. He's like a flooded out Tesla that we're trying to sell for $27k.

Agreed. If we could keep him we would eventually trade him. Just not worth the wait.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
As soon as Jimmy is released he'll get snapped up. He's like a flooded out Tesla that we're trying to sell for $27k.

Agreed. If we could keep him we would eventually trade him. Just not worth the wait.

Strwy…why not worth the wait? It is inconvenient, no question. But with the alacrity of starter QBs going down early, middle and late in last couple yrs, why isn't it worth the wait? The only thing i can think of is JG bothering Lance assuming he starts. Admittedly if JG should outplay Lance, okay, i can see that as a bit of a sticky wicket. However, if Lance isn't ready to start and play up to his ability…i don't see that happening.

And if Lance starts as most think, why should it bother him to have JG on the team, when situations were reversed, he and JG made it thru the yr with a great deal of aplomb. I would expect Lance to be every bit as gutsy as JG was. And it would give us some insurance at Qb in case of injury.

A fair # of fans have posted that "it isn't worth the wait", but if JG brings in a 2nd in 2023, then i think it was . I'm not sure I'm seeing why "not worth the wait " is operative here, when Jimmy would be a valuable commodity to anyone who loses their starter QB or didn't get their QB in FA or draft.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

As soon as Jimmy is released he'll get snapped up. He's like a flooded out Tesla that we're trying to sell for $27k.

Agreed. If we could keep him we would eventually trade him. Just not worth the wait.

Strwy…why not worth the wait? It is inconvenient, no question. But with the alacrity of starter QBs going down early, middle and late in last couple yrs, why isn't it worth the wait? The only thing i can think of is JG bothering Lance assuming he starts. Admittedly if JG should outplay Lance, okay, i can see that as a bit of a sticky wicket. However, if Lance isn't ready to start and play up to his ability…i don't see that happening.

And if Lance starts as most think, why should it bother him to have JG on the team, when situations were reversed, he and JG made it thru the yr with a great deal of aplomb. I would expect Lance to be every bit as gutsy as JG was. And it would give us some insurance at Qb in case of injury.

A fair # of fans have posted that "it isn't worth the wait", but if JG brings in a 2nd in 2023, then i think it was . I'm not sure I'm seeing why "not worth the wait " is operative here, when Jimmy would be a valuable commodity to anyone who loses their starter QB or didn't get their QB in FA or draft.

We need to extend Deebo ASAP. Most will not talk contracts during season and it is important to not have to Franchise Tag. Plus we need him out of the way to worry about Bosa next offseason.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Strwy…why not worth the wait? It is inconvenient, no question. But with the alacrity of starter QBs going down early, middle and late in last couple yrs, why isn't it worth the wait? The only thing i can think of is JG bothering Lance assuming he starts. Admittedly if JG should outplay Lance, okay, i can see that as a bit of a sticky wicket. However, if Lance isn't ready to start and play up to his ability…i don't see that happening.

And if Lance starts as most think, why should it bother him to have JG on the team, when situations were reversed, he and JG made it thru the yr with a great deal of aplomb. I would expect Lance to be every bit as gutsy as JG was. And it would give us some insurance at Qb in case of injury.

A fair # of fans have posted that "it isn't worth the wait", but if JG brings in a 2nd in 2023, then i think it was . I'm not sure I'm seeing why "not worth the wait " is operative here, when Jimmy would be a valuable commodity to anyone who loses their starter QB or didn't get their QB in FA or draft.

This is so obviously not the case, considering teams chose QBs who most fans like you consider inferior to JG, over JG. So, either the teams under value JG (the player, the contract, etc.), or people like you overvalue JG. I wonder who is correct? The professionals, or some random non NFL professional.

Whether waiting garners fair trade compensation is a moot point. The salient point is JG, currently, has very little value. The 49ers should have moved him sooner, and now will wait, not because they want to, but because they have to. They are literally stuck with him.

And having a great backup is not worth 25M. I don't care how much cap room you have. You don't pay someone who should never see the field 25M.

I'll start panicking if he's still on our team on day 3 of the draft. Even if we kept him on the roster for the season, eventually someone is going to go down and a team would rather roll the dice on Jimmy than go with their backup.

FOR SALE:
Average NFL starting QB. Age 30. Extensive resume.

FULL DISCLOSURE:
Recently had a major ligament group in his throwing shoulder repaired. Doc said he would be fine in a couple of months.

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Caller: "Hey, John, about this QB you are offering. We're interested. Call us when we can see him throwing the ball again. At that time, I think we can make a deal."

JL: "Uh, OK. I guess we'll just have to wait."

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
We need to extend Deebo ASAP. Most will not talk contracts during season and it is important to not have to Franchise Tag. Plus we need him out of the way to worry about Bosa next offseason.

Yeah pretty much. Can't go into next season with Deebo unsigned. We can with Bosa because he has that 5th year option due to him being a 1st RD pick. Though I do think he gets extended just prior to training camp. Bosa could win DPOY next season and with the cap going up he could become even more expensive than the $30 Million he is projected to make.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Rolling over Jimmy's cap savings into next year is by itself, more valuable than keeping him.

Yeah that's a better reason then I gave. You don't pay starter $ for a backup under any scenario.

Wonder if we could trade Jimmy to the Panthers for Darnold+ 2022 3rd RD pick, then turn and trade Darnold to the Seahawks for a 2022 4th RD pick. We get a 3rd+4th in a sense for Jimmy, and we can get Deebo+Bosa signed this year. Deebo I would go 5/120 with the first 2-3 years guaranteed, and Bosa I would give him 5/155 on an extension, so we would have him under control for 7 years.