What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by Bobdawg78:

Wonder if we could trade Jimmy to the Panthers for Darnold+ 2022 3rd RD pick, then turn and trade Darnold to the Seahawks for a 2022 4th RD pick. We get a 3rd+4th in a sense for Jimmy, and we can get Deebo+Bosa signed this year. Deebo I would go 5/120 with the first 2-3 years guaranteed, and Bosa I would give him 5/155 on an extension, so we would have him under control for 7 years.

Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
Wonder if we could trade Jimmy to the Panthers for Darnold+ 2022 3rd RD pick, then turn and trade Darnold to the Seahawks for a 2022 4th RD pick. We get a 3rd+4th in a sense for Jimmy, and we can get Deebo+Bosa signed this year. Deebo I would go 5/120 with the first 2-3 years guaranteed, and Bosa I would give him 5/155 on an extension, so we would have him under control for 7 years.

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Strwy…why not worth the wait? It is inconvenient, no question. But with the alacrity of starter QBs going down early, middle and late in last couple yrs, why isn't it worth the wait? The only thing i can think of is JG bothering Lance assuming he starts. Admittedly if JG should outplay Lance, okay, i can see that as a bit of a sticky wicket. However, if Lance isn't ready to start and play up to his ability…i don't see that happening.

And if Lance starts as most think, why should it bother him to have JG on the team, when situations were reversed, he and JG made it thru the yr with a great deal of aplomb. I would expect Lance to be every bit as gutsy as JG was. And it would give us some insurance at Qb in case of injury.

A fair # of fans have posted that "it isn't worth the wait", but if JG brings in a 2nd in 2023, then i think it was . I'm not sure I'm seeing why "not worth the wait " is operative here, when Jimmy would be a valuable commodity to anyone who loses their starter QB or didn't get their QB in FA or draft.

This is so obviously not the case, considering teams chose QBs who most fans like you consider inferior to JG, over JG. So, either the teams under value JG (the player, the contract, etc.), or people like you overvalue JG. I wonder who is correct? The professionals, or some random non NFL professional.

Whether waiting garners fair trade compensation is a moot point. The salient point is JG, currently, has very little value. The 49ers should have moved him sooner, and now will wait, not because they want to, but because they have to. They are literally stuck with him.

And having a great backup is not worth 25M. I don't care how much cap room you have. You don't pay someone who should never see the field 25M.

Originally posted by dj43:
FOR SALE:
Average NFL starting QB. Age 30. Extensive resume.

FULL DISCLOSURE:
Recently had a major ligament group in his throwing shoulder repaired. Doc said he would be fine in a couple of months.

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Caller: "Hey, John, about this QB you are offering. We're interested. Call us when we can see him throwing the ball again. At that time, I think we can make a deal."

JL: "Uh, OK. I guess we'll just have to wait."

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
The only way to know he would fail a physical would be to take a physical no?

assumptions are not facts, he did not take a physical so how does anyone know he would have failed a physical?

Here's what we do know:

- We traded multiple first round picks and a 3rd round pick to draft T. Lance in the first round (#3 overall) of the draft last year.
- No team wanted to trade for Jimmy
- Jimmy's no trade clause expired when the new league year started
- Getting surgery activated Jimmy's Injury clause
- Jimmy didn't have surgery until one week before free agency (New League year)
- Trade discussions usually happen at the scouting combine (agents and F/O folks generally figure out what the trade market is)
- Jimmy is still on our team with a injury settlement attached to his contract
- Jimmy never took a physical (so he didn't fail a physical)

Do you think Jimmy's agent couldn't find one team at the combine that was willing to pay him more that $7.5M if he was released?

Do you think Jimmy's agent had a long term contract agreed to with a team and the Niners demands are what tanked the deal?

Because those are the only 2 scenarios where having a surgery (that isn't guaranteed to be successful, just ask Trent Taylor) is more advantageous to Jimmy that allowing it to heal on its own (if it looked like it was about to do so)

Playing surgical games that you don't have to play with your throwing shoulder is not the wisest move for a QB.

Nah man, absolutely brilliant strategy.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He will get traded when he is fully healthy. When a QB goes down in season. Which happens every year. That's when he will have some value.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He will get traded when he is fully healthy. When a QB goes down in season. Which happens every year. That's when he will have some value.

How do we sign free agents and our draft picks with his $ on the books?

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He will get traded when he is fully healthy. When a QB goes down in season. Which happens every year. That's when he will have some value.

How do we sign free agents and our draft picks with his $ on the books?

How do we sign deebs and bosa even if jimmy is nopt on the team. it cant be done. jimmy salary 27. deebs + Bosa = 55m? 60M? minus their current salaries, maybe 45m? it can't be done.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He will get traded when he is fully healthy. When a QB goes down in season. Which happens every year. That's when he will have some value.

How do we sign free agents and our draft picks with his $ on the books?

How do we sign deebs and bosa even if jimmy is nopt on the team. it cant be done. jimmy salary 27. deebs + Bosa = 55m? 60M? minus their current salaries, maybe 45m? it can't be done.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
How do we sign deebs and bosa even if jimmy is nopt on the team. it cant be done. jimmy salary 27. deebs + Bosa = 55m? 60M? minus their current salaries, maybe 45m? it can't be done.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He will get traded when he is fully healthy. When a QB goes down in season. Which happens every year. That's when he will have some value.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He will get traded when he is fully healthy. When a QB goes down in season. Which happens every year. That's when he will have some value.

QBs get injured and that team then trades for a QB every year huh?

Originally posted by 49ers808:
QBs get injured and that team then trades for a QB every year huh?