What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The boys KS and JL operating from a position of strength and on the same page

KS - "That's why we looked into trading Jimmy, because we obviously believe that Trey can be a starter and we're ready to do that," Shanahan said. "But if we can't upgrade our team in another way, we're not just going to get rid of a good quarterback because we have other quarterbacks on the roster. Quarterbacks are really hard to come by. Some teams don't have any at all, and the fact that we have three that we're happy with, that is a good thing.

"We brought Trey here to be that eventually, and I think that will be sooner than later, but when Jimmy gets his surgery and we can't upgrade our team by getting some good picks until people feel good about that [surgery], I'm all right with that. We're not just getting rid of him to get rid of him. Jimmy is a good player that we all really like as a person and as a teammate, and we're going to wait to see whatever helps the Niners the most."

Love to see it.

My favorite part is how both say we are not going to get rid of a good quarterback. Quarterbacks are really hard to come by. Some teams don't have any at all.

Coach, you just nailed it.

I have no issue with waiting. The injury and him not getting surgery messed up plan A. Both Kyle and Lynch admitted that.

Now you wait until he's healed up. If still no team bites, that's when you have no choice to release him. No point releasing him now and giving him a free 7 mil.

And there's definitely no point in telling teams that the plan is to release him like some idiots believe.

I could see this.

Originally posted by ltrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by FL9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Panthers coach Matt Rhule says they are not locked into drafting a QB at No.6. He says priority 1 right now is evaluating draft for franchise QB while also keeping eye on trade market.

Rhule believes at least one of Malik Willis/Kenny Pickett/Matt Corral will be a top-10 pick. pic.twitter.com/OZOYbRbRRO

— Cameron Wolfe (@CameronWolfe) March 29, 2022

trade market? There's only one QB left lol...they could possibly be waiting for Jimmy to be cleared before making a move.

This will be his last season as the Panthers coach, IMO

No doubt. A rookie isn't saving his job.

No rookie from this draft class.

Baker is still out there too. Carolina is the only reasonable option at this point for a trade. Best case would be something like a 5th this year and a conditional 4th next year with escalators for staying healthy.

Honestly I would take a 4th round pick and a player for Jimmy, if it comes down to just outright releasing him.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The boys KS and JL operating from a position of strength and on the same page

KS - "That's why we looked into trading Jimmy, because we obviously believe that Trey can be a starter and we're ready to do that," Shanahan said. "But if we can't upgrade our team in another way, we're not just going to get rid of a good quarterback because we have other quarterbacks on the roster. Quarterbacks are really hard to come by. Some teams don't have any at all, and the fact that we have three that we're happy with, that is a good thing.

"We brought Trey here to be that eventually, and I think that will be sooner than later, but when Jimmy gets his surgery and we can't upgrade our team by getting some good picks until people feel good about that [surgery], I'm all right with that. We're not just getting rid of him to get rid of him. Jimmy is a good player that we all really like as a person and as a teammate, and we're going to wait to see whatever helps the Niners the most."

Love to see it.

My favorite part is how both say we are not going to get rid of a good quarterback. Quarterbacks are really hard to come by. Some teams don't have any at all.

Coach, you just nailed it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-122198/

John Lynch on Buckner: 'We want DeForest to be a Niner for a long, long time'

This is another reason why I think Lynch is a moron, saying crap like that. Sure that #13 overall pick looked good, but then WTF do you do, take another DT. I would've used that pick on Jerry Jeudy in a frickin heartbeat without even blinking.

Garoppolo has post-op examination 6 weeks after the surgery, which will occur just before the draft. More info about the shoulder and recovery will come then. The draft is the next realistic checkpoint for a trade. If not, they likely hold him until he can throw at least.

— Jared (@JaredLankes) March 29, 2022

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We would keep Jimmy to training camp if we had to to see if someone needs a QB and Jimmy is healthy. There could be an injury or someone like Trubisky can show he stinks still by then.
If we get close to the season, I could see him be cut or take a salary cut to be the backup.

I agree with this tweet that the draft is the next likely spot he gets traded. I don't know where he got this info on a post op exam but I had asked that before that there must be a point where they can tell he's recovering fine before he tests it throwing.

If he looks like he'll be ok, there are still a number of teams that might be interested with a redone contract. Carolina is most likely Most teams are focused on researching the QBs in the draft. They may not be convinced in taken one high. Like usual. They are also starting to push up higher. I'm seeing some mocks having Willis go in top 5. Someone like Carolina may not get their choice. Their biggest need is really tackle. They would be better off with a vet QB and a later round rookie. All they need to do is trade down a couple spots to get more days two picks. Then pick OL and trade one of those picks for Jimmy

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The boys KS and JL operating from a position of strength and on the same page

KS - "That's why we looked into trading Jimmy, because we obviously believe that Trey can be a starter and we're ready to do that," Shanahan said. "But if we can't upgrade our team in another way, we're not just going to get rid of a good quarterback because we have other quarterbacks on the roster. Quarterbacks are really hard to come by. Some teams don't have any at all, and the fact that we have three that we're happy with, that is a good thing.

"We brought Trey here to be that eventually, and I think that will be sooner than later, but when Jimmy gets his surgery and we can't upgrade our team by getting some good picks until people feel good about that [surgery], I'm all right with that. We're not just getting rid of him to get rid of him. Jimmy is a good player that we all really like as a person and as a teammate, and we're going to wait to see whatever helps the Niners the most."

Love to see it.

My favorite part is how both say we are not going to get rid of a good quarterback. Quarterbacks are really hard to come by. Some teams don't have any at all.

Coach, you just nailed it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-122198/

John Lynch on Buckner: 'We want DeForest to be a Niner for a long, long time'

I mean... all in all, guys... Do we expect our front office to publicly say that the market for Jimmy wasn't as expected and we're gonna cut him once his shoulder heals up?
Any team that has a remote interest in Jimmy would just wait until that happens so that they don't have to give up any draft capital in a trade.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by ltrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by FL9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Panthers coach Matt Rhule says they are not locked into drafting a QB at No.6. He says priority 1 right now is evaluating draft for franchise QB while also keeping eye on trade market.

Rhule believes at least one of Malik Willis/Kenny Pickett/Matt Corral will be a top-10 pick. pic.twitter.com/OZOYbRbRRO

— Cameron Wolfe (@CameronWolfe) March 29, 2022

trade market? There's only one QB left lol...they could possibly be waiting for Jimmy to be cleared before making a move.

This will be his last season as the Panthers coach, IMO

No doubt. A rookie isn't saving his job.

No rookie from this draft class.

Baker is still out there too. Carolina is the only reasonable option at this point for a trade. Best case would be something like a 5th this year and a conditional 4th next year with escalators for staying healthy.

Honestly I would take a 4th round pick and a player for Jimmy, if it comes down to just outright releasing him.

We are in the Sam Bradford lottery stage of the JG adventure.

See if a QB on another team goes down in camp and offer up JG to save their season.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
We are in the Sam Bradford lottery stage of the JG adventure.

See if a QB on another team goes down in camp and offer up JG to save their season.

That's a polite way of saying Jimmy is a bandaid.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by ltrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by FL9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Panthers coach Matt Rhule says they are not locked into drafting a QB at No.6. He says priority 1 right now is evaluating draft for franchise QB while also keeping eye on trade market.

Rhule believes at least one of Malik Willis/Kenny Pickett/Matt Corral will be a top-10 pick. pic.twitter.com/OZOYbRbRRO

— Cameron Wolfe (@CameronWolfe) March 29, 2022

trade market? There's only one QB left lol...they could possibly be waiting for Jimmy to be cleared before making a move.

This will be his last season as the Panthers coach, IMO

No doubt. A rookie isn't saving his job.

No rookie from this draft class.

Baker is still out there too. Carolina is the only reasonable option at this point for a trade. Best case would be something like a 5th this year and a conditional 4th next year with escalators for staying healthy.

Honestly I would take a 4th round pick and a player for Jimmy, if it comes down to just outright releasing him.

We are in the Sam Bradford lottery stage of the JG adventure.

See if a QB on another team goes down in camp and offer up JG to save their season.

Originally posted by jobiwon:

Garoppolo has post-op examination 6 weeks after the surgery, which will occur just before the draft. More info about the shoulder and recovery will come then. The draft is the next realistic checkpoint for a trade. If not, they likely hold him until he can throw at least.

— Jared (@JaredLankes) March 29, 2022

DNw0U3RloHlsn1v_0wcZ

We would keep Jimmy to training camp if we had to to see if someone needs a QB and Jimmy is healthy. There could be an injury or someone like Trubisky can show he stinks still by then.
If we get close to the season, I could see him be cut or take a salary cut to be the backup.

I agree with this tweet that the draft is the next likely spot he gets traded. I don't know where he got this info on a post op exam but I had asked that before that there must be a point where they can tell he's recovering fine before he tests it throwing.

If he looks like he'll be ok, there are still a number of teams that might be interested with a redone contract. Carolina is most likely Most teams are focused on researching the QBs in the draft. They may not be convinced in taken one high. Like usual. They are also starting to push up higher. I'm seeing some mocks having Willis go in top 5. Someone like Carolina may not get their choice. Their biggest need is really tackle. They would be better off with a vet QB and a later round rookie. All they need to do is trade down a couple spots to get more days two picks. Then pick OL and trade one of those picks for Jimmy

I can see a draft day trade, where Jimmy is traded for a pick and a player. Conversely, they can trade him for a conditional pick - the condition being his rehab and ability to play QB. He won't be throwing until after the draft, so they can structure a deal where the 49ers would get a conditional first round if Jimmy is 100% by training camp (or something like that) and if not, the 49ers get a really low pick, possibly a day three pick even if Jimmy takes longer to heal. Personally, I'd give it a 50%/50% chance he's traded around draft day, and more of a 75%/25% traded by the time he's able to throw sometime in (I think) July.

Originally posted by Giedi:
I can see a draft day trade, where Jimmy is traded for a pick and a player. Conversely, they can trade him for a conditional pick - the condition being his rehab and ability to play QB. He won't be throwing until after the draft, so they can structure a deal where the 49ers would get a conditional first round if Jimmy is 100% by training camp (or something like that) and if not, the 49ers get a really low pick, possibly a day three pick even if Jimmy takes longer to heal. Personally, I'd give it a 50%/50% chance he's traded around draft day, and more of a 75%/25% traded by the time he's able to throw sometime in (I think) July.

Don't hold you breath. Teams have no reason at all to spend anything for a player they predict to be released at some point.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I can see a draft day trade, where Jimmy is traded for a pick and a player. Conversely, they can trade him for a conditional pick - the condition being his rehab and ability to play QB. He won't be throwing until after the draft, so they can structure a deal where the 49ers would get a conditional first round if Jimmy is 100% by training camp (or something like that) and if not, the 49ers get a really low pick, possibly a day three pick even if Jimmy takes longer to heal. Personally, I'd give it a 50%/50% chance he's traded around draft day, and more of a 75%/25% traded by the time he's able to throw sometime in (I think) July.

Don't hold you breath. Teams have no reason at all to spend anything for a player they predict to be released at some point.

false...there is a risk you dont get JG if you wait until he is cut

a trade means you guarantee you control his rights

the point of contention is how much do other teams value obtaining the rights to JG

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I can see a draft day trade, where Jimmy is traded for a pick and a player. Conversely, they can trade him for a conditional pick - the condition being his rehab and ability to play QB. He won't be throwing until after the draft, so they can structure a deal where the 49ers would get a conditional first round if Jimmy is 100% by training camp (or something like that) and if not, the 49ers get a really low pick, possibly a day three pick even if Jimmy takes longer to heal. Personally, I'd give it a 50%/50% chance he's traded around draft day, and more of a 75%/25% traded by the time he's able to throw sometime in (I think) July.

Don't hold you breath. Teams have no reason at all to spend anything for a player they predict to be released at some point.

false...there is a risk you dont get JG if you wait until he is cut

a trade means you guarantee you control his rights

the point of contention is how much do other teams value obtaining the rights to JG

I don't see a team trading for that $25M.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
false...there is a risk you dont get JG if you wait until he is cut

a trade means you guarantee you control his rights

the point of contention is how much do other teams value obtaining the rights to JG

Bottom line bring your trade assets to a discussion for JG. If you don't he won't get traded. And guess what he won't get cut either.

More value having him as a reserve, than having cap space (which we will have anyway once his deal expires). TL for all his promise he hardly played and had like 2-3 injuries.

Between TL and JG we are competitive for 17 game season plus hopefully 3-4 playoff games, that's a lot of football we would have our bases covered at the most important position even if there is an injury, that is no small thing. As we have seen 2018 and 2020 season wiped out due to QB injury, let's not make 2022 next.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I can see a draft day trade, where Jimmy is traded for a pick and a player. Conversely, they can trade him for a conditional pick - the condition being his rehab and ability to play QB. He won't be throwing until after the draft, so they can structure a deal where the 49ers would get a conditional first round if Jimmy is 100% by training camp (or something like that) and if not, the 49ers get a really low pick, possibly a day three pick even if Jimmy takes longer to heal. Personally, I'd give it a 50%/50% chance he's traded around draft day, and more of a 75%/25% traded by the time he's able to throw sometime in (I think) July.

Don't hold you breath. Teams have no reason at all to spend anything for a player they predict to be released at some point.

false...there is a risk you dont get JG if you wait until he is cut

a trade means you guarantee you control his rights

the point of contention is how much do other teams value obtaining the rights to JG

I don't see a team trading for that $25M.

That's too bad. It comes with a 70% winning percentage. Guess GMs don't want to win.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I can see a draft day trade, where Jimmy is traded for a pick and a player. Conversely, they can trade him for a conditional pick - the condition being his rehab and ability to play QB. He won't be throwing until after the draft, so they can structure a deal where the 49ers would get a conditional first round if Jimmy is 100% by training camp (or something like that) and if not, the 49ers get a really low pick, possibly a day three pick even if Jimmy takes longer to heal. Personally, I'd give it a 50%/50% chance he's traded around draft day, and more of a 75%/25% traded by the time he's able to throw sometime in (I think) July.

Don't hold you breath. Teams have no reason at all to spend anything for a player they predict to be released at some point.

false...there is a risk you dont get JG if you wait until he is cut

a trade means you guarantee you control his rights

the point of contention is how much do other teams value obtaining the rights to JG

I do not think we will see him get traded until an opening opens up from injury. I think if the team that losses their QB is playoff caliber or Superbowl caliber we will be able to probably get like a 2nd +3rd. If the team that losses their QB sucks then we won't get good compensation.

Until then I do not think he is worth anything. There is just not any openings for him.