What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I can see a draft day trade, where Jimmy is traded for a pick and a player. Conversely, they can trade him for a conditional pick - the condition being his rehab and ability to play QB. He won't be throwing until after the draft, so they can structure a deal where the 49ers would get a conditional first round if Jimmy is 100% by training camp (or something like that) and if not, the 49ers get a really low pick, possibly a day three pick even if Jimmy takes longer to heal. Personally, I'd give it a 50%/50% chance he's traded around draft day, and more of a 75%/25% traded by the time he's able to throw sometime in (I think) July.

Don't hold you breath. Teams have no reason at all to spend anything for a player they predict to be released at some point.

false...there is a risk you dont get JG if you wait until he is cut

a trade means you guarantee you control his rights

the point of contention is how much do other teams value obtaining the rights to JG

I don't see a team trading for that $25M.

That's too bad. It comes with a 70% winning percentage. Guess GMs don't want to win.

If they did they would have traded for him already. I don't believe for one minute that the surgery is scaring teams off. They know full well he'll likely be ready by training camp. Other teams have eyes too. They clearly saw Jimmy's play like we did. I think they're seeing Jimmy's wins as more to do with Shanny's scheme than Jimmy's play. And, they're predicting him to be released at some point. So why would they spend anything when you can get him for free?

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I can see a draft day trade, where Jimmy is traded for a pick and a player. Conversely, they can trade him for a conditional pick - the condition being his rehab and ability to play QB. He won't be throwing until after the draft, so they can structure a deal where the 49ers would get a conditional first round if Jimmy is 100% by training camp (or something like that) and if not, the 49ers get a really low pick, possibly a day three pick even if Jimmy takes longer to heal. Personally, I'd give it a 50%/50% chance he's traded around draft day, and more of a 75%/25% traded by the time he's able to throw sometime in (I think) July.

Don't hold you breath. Teams have no reason at all to spend anything for a player they predict to be released at some point.

false...there is a risk you dont get JG if you wait until he is cut

a trade means you guarantee you control his rights

the point of contention is how much do other teams value obtaining the rights to JG

I don't see a team trading for that $25M.

That's too bad. It comes with a 70% winning percentage. Guess GMs don't want to win.

If they did they would have traded for him already. I don't believe for one minute that the surgery is scaring teams off. They know full well he'll likely be ready by training camp. Other teams have eyes too. They clearly saw Jimmy's play like we did. I think they're seeing Jimmy's wins as more to do with Shanny's scheme than Jimmy's play. And, they're predicting him to be released at some point. So why would they spend anything when you can get him for free?

Exactly, wait for him to get cut then you can sign him for a fraction of the cost.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I can see a draft day trade, where Jimmy is traded for a pick and a player. Conversely, they can trade him for a conditional pick - the condition being his rehab and ability to play QB. He won't be throwing until after the draft, so they can structure a deal where the 49ers would get a conditional first round if Jimmy is 100% by training camp (or something like that) and if not, the 49ers get a really low pick, possibly a day three pick even if Jimmy takes longer to heal. Personally, I'd give it a 50%/50% chance he's traded around draft day, and more of a 75%/25% traded by the time he's able to throw sometime in (I think) July.

Don't hold you breath. Teams have no reason at all to spend anything for a player they predict to be released at some point.

false...there is a risk you dont get JG if you wait until he is cut

a trade means you guarantee you control his rights

the point of contention is how much do other teams value obtaining the rights to JG

I don't see a team trading for that $25M.

That's too bad. It comes with a 70% winning percentage. Guess GMs don't want to win.

If they did they would have traded for him already. I don't believe for one minute that the surgery is scaring teams off. They know full well he'll likely be ready by training camp. Other teams have eyes too. They clearly saw Jimmy's play like we did. I think they're seeing Jimmy's wins as more to do with Shanny's scheme than Jimmy's play. And, they're predicting him to be released at some point. So why would they spend anything when you can get him for free?

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
If they did they would have traded for him already. I don't believe for one minute that the surgery is scaring teams off. They know full well he'll likely be ready by training camp. Other teams have eyes too. They clearly saw Jimmy's play like we did. I think they're seeing Jimmy's wins as more to do with Shanny's scheme than Jimmy's play. And, they're predicting him to be released at some point. So why would they spend anything when you can get him for free?

Agreed with all. I don't think GMs think he sucks, he's just poor value for a $27 million dollar QB.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Giedi:

I can see a draft day trade, where Jimmy is traded for a pick and a player. Conversely, they can trade him for a conditional pick - the condition being his rehab and ability to play QB. He won't be throwing until after the draft, so they can structure a deal where the 49ers would get a conditional first round if Jimmy is 100% by training camp (or something like that) and if not, the 49ers get a really low pick, possibly a day three pick even if Jimmy takes longer to heal. Personally, I'd give it a 50%/50% chance he's traded around draft day, and more of a 75%/25% traded by the time he's able to throw sometime in (I think) July.

Don't hold you breath. Teams have no reason at all to spend anything for a player they predict to be released at some point.

false...there is a risk you dont get JG if you wait until he is cut

a trade means you guarantee you control his rights

the point of contention is how much do other teams value obtaining the rights to JG

I don't see a team trading for that $25M.

That's too bad. It comes with a 70% winning percentage. Guess GMs don't want to win.

Are they trading for the rest of our offense to carry him also?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
If they did they would have traded for him already. I don't believe for one minute that the surgery is scaring teams off. They know full well he'll likely be ready by training camp. Other teams have eyes too. They clearly saw Jimmy's play like we did. I think they're seeing Jimmy's wins as more to do with Shanny's scheme than Jimmy's play. And, they're predicting him to be released at some point. So why would they spend anything when you can get him for free?

Agreed with all. I don't think GMs think he sucks, he's just poor value for a $27 million dollar QB.

Not every team has a stellar running game and top 5 D. All of which Jimmy needs to get his nauseating stats posted over and over here.

The Colts were his best fit and that ship has sailed.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
If they did they would have traded for him already. I don't believe for one minute that the surgery is scaring teams off. They know full well he'll likely be ready by training camp. Other teams have eyes too. They clearly saw Jimmy's play like we did. I think they're seeing Jimmy's wins as more to do with Shanny's scheme than Jimmy's play. And, they're predicting him to be released at some point. So why would they spend anything when you can get him for free?

Agreed with all. I don't think GMs think he sucks, he's just poor value for a $27 million dollar QB.

He won't get released based on logic (pros and cons)

Pros of release

Cap space (we get this anyway in about 10 months when his deal expires)

Cons of release

QB room is weaker (less push for TL to earn the job)
Less protection from TL injury (which somehow he was injured repeatedly last year without much play time)
No possibility of compensation be it trade materializing or otherwise (comp pick)
No control over JG destination; he could sign with SEA tomorrow and start against us 2x (haters like to get cute and put this as a "pro" yet even they know he's way better than D. Lock)

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

If they did they would have traded for him already. I don't believe for one minute that the surgery is scaring teams off. They know full well he'll likely be ready by training camp. Other teams have eyes too. They clearly saw Jimmy's play like we did. I think they're seeing Jimmy's wins as more to do with Shanny's scheme than Jimmy's play. And, they're predicting him to be released at some point. So why would they spend anything when you can get him for free?

Agreed with all. I don't think GMs think he sucks, he's just poor value for a $27 million dollar QB.

He won't get released based on logic (pros and cons)

Pros of release

Cap space (we get this anyway in about 10 months when his deal expires)

Cons of release

QB room is weaker (less push for TL to earn the job)
Less protection from TL injury (which somehow he was injured repeatedly last year without much play time)
No possibility of compensation be it trade materializing or otherwise (comp pick)
No control over JG destination; he could sign with SEA tomorrow and start against us 2x (haters like to get cute and put this as a "pro" yet even they know he's way better than D. Lock)

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
He won't get released based on logic (pros and cons)

Pros of release

Cap space (we get this anyway in about 10 months when his deal expires)

Cons of release

QB room is weaker (less push for TL to earn the job)
Less protection from TL injury (which somehow he was injured repeatedly last year without much play time)
No possibility of compensation be it trade materializing or otherwise (comp pick)
No control over JG destination; he could sign with SEA tomorrow and start against us 2x (haters like to get cute and put this as a "pro" yet even they know he's way better than D. Lock)

Good post. I'll take the cap space.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
A bum that help take the 9ers to a Super Bowl and a NFC Championship two seasons later. I doubt the 9ers see that kind of success with Trey Lance.

You are right, They traded 3 1st RD picks to grab a guy they think is worse than Jimmy

What's the matter, is it only okay to hate on and poke fun of Jimmy. Are we all suppose to be happy about the #3 overall pick who's had only one year of starting experience?? You act like Lynch and Shanahan are always right about their drafts, hey I wonder what Mr-handpicked-QB CJ Beathard is doing?? How many teams has Solomon Thomas been on already?? Also what's that dancing cat Dante Pettis up to?? Don't get me starting on Mr second year going on third-Javon Kinlaw, will his knees finally hold up??

You can always follow Jimmy to his new team

And then of course comes this reply. How original.

Bc all those months of you responding to people with, fake fan! Jimmy hater! was so much more original right

Nah it was more calling people out because of the whining. You ain't doing anything but trying to get under my skin. Oh stop already.

Your con of weaker QB room is hilarious. If you don't think Trey can at a very minimum do the behind the LOS s**t and five and ten yard dings then I don't know what to day.

Trey Lance doesn't need to earn anything. It's his by default due to the last draft. They sat him for a year. I guess a good thing but that was it. It's showtime.

His cap, oh it will go away in a year anyway. Come on man..
This Jimmy crap has really reached it's peak at biting on my nerves.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Your con of weaker QB room is hilarious. If you don't think Trey can at a very minimum do the behind the LOS s**t and five and ten yard dings then I don't know what to day.

Trey Lance doesn't need to earn anything. It's his by default due to the last draft. They sat him for a year. I guess a good thing but that was it. It's showtime.

His cap, oh it will go away in a year anyway. Come on man..
This Jimmy crap has really reached it's peak at biting on my nerves.

How is the QB room not weaker? TL and JG is stronger than TL and NS right?

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Your con of weaker QB room is hilarious. If you don't think Trey can at a very minimum do the behind the LOS s**t and five and ten yard dings then I don't know what to day.

Trey Lance doesn't need to earn anything. It's his by default due to the last draft. They sat him for a year. I guess a good thing but that was it. It's showtime.

His cap, oh it will go away in a year anyway. Come on man..
This Jimmy crap has really reached it's peak at biting on my nerves.

Just to add onto your bottom statement. The cap rolls over so it's not like that money spent this year would magically gained back next year. It's money lost because it rolls.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
If they did they would have traded for him already. I don't believe for one minute that the surgery is scaring teams off. They know full well he'll likely be ready by training camp. Other teams have eyes too. They clearly saw Jimmy's play like we did. I think they're seeing Jimmy's wins as more to do with Shanny's scheme than Jimmy's play. And, they're predicting him to be released at some point. So why would they spend anything when you can get him for free?

Agreed with all. I don't think GMs think he sucks, he's just poor value for a $27 million dollar QB.

He won't get released based on logic (pros and cons)

Pros of release

Cap space (we get this anyway in about 10 months when his deal expires)

Cons of release

QB room is weaker (less push for TL to earn the job)
Less protection from TL injury (which somehow he was injured repeatedly last year without much play time)
No possibility of compensation be it trade materializing or otherwise (comp pick)
No control over JG destination; he could sign with SEA tomorrow and start against us 2x (haters like to get cute and put this as a "pro" yet even they know he's way better than D. Lock)

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. It's like jimmy has his own spin doctor crew up in this b***h 🤣

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Your con of weaker QB room is hilarious. If you don't think Trey can at a very minimum do the behind the LOS s**t and five and ten yard dings then I don't know what to day.

Trey Lance doesn't need to earn anything. It's his by default due to the last draft. They sat him for a year. I guess a good thing but that was it. It's showtime.

His cap, oh it will go away in a year anyway. Come on man..
This Jimmy crap has really reached it's peak at biting on my nerves.

How is the QB room not weaker? TL and JG is stronger than TL and NS right?

What about locker room divided? What about off field distractions having to answer QB questions? How about if Trey struggles in a game having to deal with should we go back to Jimmy questions from the dips**t Grant Cohn? I agree Jimmy is a better backup than just about every back up in the league but it would cause friction for a 2nd year QB who needs to have confidence the team and everyone involved is behind him.