What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by YACBros85:
They wouldn't just be getting rid of him because we have other QB's on the roster. There are other circumstances that were not considered in the statement that Shanahan made. Such as whether or not Jimmy even wants to be here and if cutting him makes the 49ers better because they can use some of that 25.5 million to make a late off season or in season trade.

RackofRibs49, to use your same argumemt for why you think that the FO isn't fully confident in Trey taking over because they didn't name him the starter in April. They also never said that they were 100% not going to cut Jimmy either. They stated that they were going to do whatever they thought would make the team better. Cutting Jimmy could make the team better just by freeing up cap space that could be used to bolster the roster in July or August.

An extension and restructure woulld do the same.

Jimmy and kyle kiss and make up in late july. Maybe jimmy even throws better after fixing his wing. Who knows what can happen.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
An extension and restructure woulld do the same.

Jimmy and kyle kiss and make up in late july. Maybe jimmy even throws better after fixing his wing. Who knows what can happen.

Jimmy is not going to sign an extension to be a backup, get out of here with that. The 49ers did not trade three first rounders to not play the guy they picked, let's be real here.

Originally posted by SickGojira:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

An extension and restructure woulld do the same.

Jimmy and kyle kiss and make up in late july. Maybe jimmy even throws better after fixing his wing. Who knows what can happen.

Jimmy is not going to sign an extension to be a backup, get out of here with that. The 49ers did not trade three first rounders to not play the guy they picked, let's be real here.

Crazy to think it's a possibility.

I may be alone in this thinking but the trade between the Saints and Eagles today gives me a glimmer of hope for a Jimmy trade. The Saints are not done, you don't do that at this time for any other position then QB. They will trade again into the top 5 to get in front of Carolina. If Detroit takes Willis and the Saints takes QB2, whoever they deem that to be between Pickett/Corral/Ridder, then the Panthers may be left with their pants down. The only problem would be that they could choose Baker over Jimmy, but I have more hope today with this trade news then I did in a long time

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
If that's you're apology for not paying attention to your own team and how they also called out fans than I'll accept it.

What are you even doing, man? You really that daft? I asked you why you insulted the Fanbase. What in the hell do I have to apologize for? You are the one that comes into a FAN forum and insults the entire fan base, calling us "bottom of the barrel". GTFO!

Because as I've said. Our fans have turned on Alex, Kaep, Jimmy and he'll "get this monkey off my back" Steve Young . Soon enough without a doubt in my mind it will be Trey. It's not even a question.

They draft up conspiracies like he's not hurt because he opened a water bottle, they blatantly say they don't care if it hurts the team and just release him, they lie saying he can't throw 15 yards, they spent literally 2 weeks blaming him for a throw that hit Deebo in both hands

It sucks that we treat every QB so terribly and it sucks that Trey will be next. Again, no question.

we have a championship team.. QB is the weakest link

if Trey can't get us over the hump, then he is not exempt from criticism

Hypothetical but say Trey is a little behind right now as he 21 years old, that's not hate, that's reality. What if Jimmy, a 9 year accomplished vet gives us a better chance?

Be honest... What do you do? From what I gather people would rather lose because they hate Jimmy. Again this is hypothetical.

People KNOW Jimmy can't perform in the playoffs. If Trey isn't given a chance, he'll never be able to. If you're asking me if it is worth missing the playoffs this year in order to dominate them for the next 10, then I'm all in on that. Same thing happened with Young. I was disappointed we missed the playoffs his 1st year, but he dominated the league for the next 8. In hindsight, it was absolutely worth it.

So... Why not just make the playoffs this year with Jimmy then let the then 23 year old dominate afterwards?

Again I'm speaking hypothetically but I think from all the evidence I have presented and that includes quotes from the GM, coach, and owner that this could be a plan. Not the ideal plan but again, throwing a 22 year old out there just to do it could really stunt his growth. He's got 10+ more years to prove himself.

Don't fall for the business talk..

jimmy has had his chance already and he's shown he's not the guy, time to move on with Trey

I agree that Jimmy has had his chance(s) but still what if Trey is still a little behind? That's not hate, it's perfectly logical that a 22 year old with 10 quarters of experience, and only about 1 season of college might need time.

Again this is why they are so hesitant to get behind Trey and give him the reigns for this season. Obviously if we can get a little more help with picks from Jimmy it'll relieve some stress on Trey but if not just cutting Jimmy just to cut him seems dumb. There's still plenty that can happen as far as getting Deebo and rookies signed. Why not go in with the best team possible this year? The window will not always be this open

no one is hesitant. it's already known that it's Trey season

We already tried the jimmy experiment last year, why try it again and expect different results ? plus, The games that Trey played in was on par with Jimmy's 8 year experience.

Can you point out where they have said Trey is the starter? Why haven't they? I hear "because he has to earn it"... against Sudfield?! "Because they are trying to trade Jimmy"... then why openly admit he has zero trade value? If they really are going to lie, lying about his worth would be the main thing to lie about. Jimmy coming back next year does nothing as far as moving his trade value.

numerous articles from Lynch and Kyle already, even Lance himself has said it

no one has said he's coming back. You are just hearing answers to loaded questions on him being on the team still. He's only on the team still is due to his injury Gtd

"We're not just going to get rid of a good quarterback because we have other quarterbacks on the roster," Shanahan said Tuesday at the NFL's owners' meetings. "Quarterbacks are really hard to come by. Some teams don't have any at all. The fact that we have three we're happy with, that is a good thing. You always want to upgrade your team. Usually, only one guy can play. We know all our guys are capable of starting. Jimmy has done a great job for us. We brought Trey here to be that eventually, and I think that will be sooner than later."

Sooner than later... That's really a ringing endorsement (sarcasm)

He's too good of a player. I don't foresee that, and I think Jimmy will be playing for us or he'll be playing for somebody else.

-Lynch

"We have two really good quarterbacks on our roster," York said. "One guy has gotten to the final four and beyond two of the last three seasons. If he's our guy, that's OK. If Trey is our guy that we traded up for, that's OK.

"I want to win football games. It's not about 'We traded up for Trey,"

-Jed york

Im hearing EXACTLY, EX..ACT...LY.... What they are saying. 100%... It's their words. It's you guys playing naive, not me. For the 30th time, it's not me putting words in their mouths, I'm literally quoting them. It's you guys who are making up s**t out of thin air. Literally.

can you find anything about him playing for us before that.. ?. like i said you are hearing answers to why he's still on the team since we can't find a trade partner

Literally... Literally... I mean literally (people overuse that word) they have kept the door open since right after the season to keeping Jimmy. It's pretty obvious and I'm not trying to be an ass but I am one of the very few who actually pays attention and listens. The rest literally make up s**t. Jimmy triggers posters so bad they stoop to making s**t up and call everyone liars. This is a very very basic thing here.

"I have the ultimate respect for Jimmy," Shanahan said. "I'm very excited about Trey. And that's where we're at right now. Jimmy's made it a lot harder. He stayed healthy and he played like he is capable playing, which to me is one of the better quarterbacks in this league.

"So we're in a tough situation — not a tough situation. You're in a situation where you got to make some tough decisions. It won't be easy, but I'm happy about that."

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-pledge-keep-jimmy-garoppolo-informed-about-future-plans

What decisions does he mean? I know as it's blatant common sense is Jimmy or Trey but I'm wondering what conspiracy you guys will push.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

If that's you're apology for not paying attention to your own team and how they also called out fans than I'll accept it.

What are you even doing, man? You really that daft? I asked you why you insulted the Fanbase. What in the hell do I have to apologize for? You are the one that comes into a FAN forum and insults the entire fan base, calling us "bottom of the barrel". GTFO!

Because as I've said. Our fans have turned on Alex, Kaep, Jimmy and he'll "get this monkey off my back" Steve Young . Soon enough without a doubt in my mind it will be Trey. It's not even a question.

They draft up conspiracies like he's not hurt because he opened a water bottle, they blatantly say they don't care if it hurts the team and just release him, they lie saying he can't throw 15 yards, they spent literally 2 weeks blaming him for a throw that hit Deebo in both hands

It sucks that we treat every QB so terribly and it sucks that Trey will be next. Again, no question.

we have a championship team.. QB is the weakest link

if Trey can't get us over the hump, then he is not exempt from criticism

Hypothetical but say Trey is a little behind right now as he 21 years old, that's not hate, that's reality. What if Jimmy, a 9 year accomplished vet gives us a better chance?

Be honest... What do you do? From what I gather people would rather lose because they hate Jimmy. Again this is hypothetical.

People KNOW Jimmy can't perform in the playoffs. If Trey isn't given a chance, he'll never be able to. If you're asking me if it is worth missing the playoffs this year in order to dominate them for the next 10, then I'm all in on that. Same thing happened with Young. I was disappointed we missed the playoffs his 1st year, but he dominated the league for the next 8. In hindsight, it was absolutely worth it.

So... Why not just make the playoffs this year with Jimmy then let the then 23 year old dominate afterwards?

Again I'm speaking hypothetically but I think from all the evidence I have presented and that includes quotes from the GM, coach, and owner that this could be a plan. Not the ideal plan but again, throwing a 22 year old out there just to do it could really stunt his growth. He's got 10+ more years to prove himself.

Don't fall for the business talk..

jimmy has had his chance already and he's shown he's not the guy, time to move on with Trey

I agree that Jimmy has had his chance(s) but still what if Trey is still a little behind? That's not hate, it's perfectly logical that a 22 year old with 10 quarters of experience, and only about 1 season of college might need time.

Again this is why they are so hesitant to get behind Trey and give him the reigns for this season. Obviously if we can get a little more help with picks from Jimmy it'll relieve some stress on Trey but if not just cutting Jimmy just to cut him seems dumb. There's still plenty that can happen as far as getting Deebo and rookies signed. Why not go in with the best team possible this year? The window will not always be this open

no one is hesitant. it's already known that it's Trey season

We already tried the jimmy experiment last year, why try it again and expect different results ? plus, The games that Trey played in was on par with Jimmy's 8 year experience.

Can you point out where they have said Trey is the starter? Why haven't they? I hear "because he has to earn it"... against Sudfield?! "Because they are trying to trade Jimmy"... then why openly admit he has zero trade value? If they really are going to lie, lying about his worth would be the main thing to lie about. Jimmy coming back next year does nothing as far as moving his trade value.

numerous articles from Lynch and Kyle already, even Lance himself has said it

no one has said he's coming back. You are just hearing answers to loaded questions on him being on the team still. He's only on the team still is due to his injury Gtd

"We're not just going to get rid of a good quarterback because we have other quarterbacks on the roster," Shanahan said Tuesday at the NFL's owners' meetings. "Quarterbacks are really hard to come by. Some teams don't have any at all. The fact that we have three we're happy with, that is a good thing. You always want to upgrade your team. Usually, only one guy can play. We know all our guys are capable of starting. Jimmy has done a great job for us. We brought Trey here to be that eventually, and I think that will be sooner than later."

Sooner than later... That's really a ringing endorsement (sarcasm)

He's too good of a player. I don't foresee that, and I think Jimmy will be playing for us or he'll be playing for somebody else.

-Lynch

"We have two really good quarterbacks on our roster," York said. "One guy has gotten to the final four and beyond two of the last three seasons. If he's our guy, that's OK. If Trey is our guy that we traded up for, that's OK.

"I want to win football games. It's not about 'We traded up for Trey,"

-Jed york

Im hearing EXACTLY, EX..ACT...LY.... What they are saying. 100%... It's their words. It's you guys playing naive, not me. For the 30th time, it's not me putting words in their mouths, I'm literally quoting them. It's you guys who are making up s**t out of thin air. Literally.

can you find anything about him playing for us before that.. ?. like i said you are hearing answers to why he's still on the team since we can't find a trade partner

Literally... Literally... I mean literally (people overuse that word) they have kept the door open since right after the season to keeping Jimmy. It's pretty obvious and I'm not trying to be an ass but I am one of the very few who actually pays attention and listens. The rest literally make up s**t. Jimmy triggers posters so bad they stoop to making s**t up and call everyone liars. This is a very very basic thing here.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-pledge-keep-jimmy-garoppolo-informed-about-future-plans

Literally

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Literally

I know...lol but how you guys keep mincing their words with conspiracies, I had to make sure you guys got it. They are literally words from the FO, York, and Shanny. Now your guys conspiracy are not literal anything. They are taking words and skewing them to fit your agenda.

Originally posted by SickGojira:
Jimmy is not going to sign an extension to be a backup, get out of here with that. The 49ers did not trade three first rounders to not play the guy they picked, let's be real here.

But but but that's not what jed said.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Literally

I know...lol but how you guys keep mincing their words with conspiracies, I had to make sure you guys got it. They are literally words from the FO, York, and Shanny. Now your guys conspiracy are not literal anything. They are taking words and skewing them to fit your agenda.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Literally

Trey is 21. That's the reality. We've got 5 all pros on the roster. That's also a reality. Everybody agrees if trey can win he will be the starter. Really, everybody's in agreement. Why do these threads go on so long.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Literally

Trey is 21. That's the reality. We've got 5 all pros on the roster. That's also a reality. Everybody agrees if trey can win he will be the starter. Really, everybody's in agreement. Why do these threads go on so long.

Lots here don't understand football.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Literally

Trey is 21. That's the reality. We've got 5 all pros on the roster. That's also a reality. Everybody agrees if trey can win he will be the starter. Really, everybody's in agreement. Why do these threads go on so long.

Lots here don't understand football.

Yeah it could be that only one person gets it and it's the guy you see in the mirror. That's probably it. Not possible to have two different perspectives and who would want to hear a perspective different than their own anyway? What would the point of that be?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Literally

Trey is 21. That's the reality. We've got 5 all pros on the roster. That's also a reality. Everybody agrees if trey can win he will be the starter. Really, everybody's in agreement. Why do these threads go on so long.

Lots here don't understand football.

Yeah it could be that only one person gets it and it's the guy you see in the mirror. That's probably it. Not possible to have two different perspectives and who would want to hear a perspective different than their own anyway? What would the point of that be?

Plausible perspectives are fine. We get very few of those.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Literally

Trey is 21. That's the reality. We've got 5 all pros on the roster. That's also a reality. Everybody agrees if trey can win he will be the starter. Really, everybody's in agreement. Why do these threads go on so long.

Lots here don't understand football.

Yeah it could be that only one person gets it and it's the guy you see in the mirror. That's probably it. Not possible to have two different perspectives and who would want to hear a perspective different than their own anyway? What would the point of that be?

Plausible perspectives are fine. We get very few of those.

Thinking that a 22 year old that has never really played a lot of football, and when he did it was against scrubs in college may not be ready is extremely plausible to me. That's not hate, I'm excited for Trey, but he's still a baby

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Literally

Trey is 21. That's the reality. We've got 5 all pros on the roster. That's also a reality. Everybody agrees if trey can win he will be the starter. Really, everybody's in agreement. Why do these threads go on so long.

Lots here don't understand football.

Yeah it could be that only one person gets it and it's the guy you see in the mirror. That's probably it. Not possible to have two different perspectives and who would want to hear a perspective different than their own anyway? What would the point of that be?

Plausible perspectives are fine. We get very few of those.

Thinking that a 22 year old that has never really played a lot of football, and when he did it was against scrubs in college may not be ready is extremely plausible to me. That's not hate, I'm excited for Trey, but he's still a baby

No arguments here. Even if true 0% chance Jimmy is here in September.