Leading interceptions

Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:
Like others have said, and I have said for many years, our cornerbacks have been complete s**te since 1995. Sherm had a decent year, Ahmed Plummer and Walt Harris had maybe 1 decent year each.

But it blows my mind how we have been this bad at cornerback for a f**king quarter century. You'd figure the team would accidentally even find a good corner back in the time since f**king batman forever was in theaters to now.

Actually the team currently has one outstanding corner and one good one.

The problem there is neither one of those guys are playing.

Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:
Like others have said, and I have said for many years, our cornerbacks have been complete s**te since 1995. Sherm had a decent year, Ahmed Plummer and Walt Harris had maybe 1 decent year each.

But it blows my mind how we have been this bad at cornerback for a f**king quarter century. You'd figure the team would accidentally even find a good corner back in the time since f**king batman forever was in theaters to now.

Carlos Rogers created turnovers through the Harbaugh Super Bowl years. We can't forget him. 8 picks in three seasons isn't too bad at all.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Carlos Rogers created turnovers through the Harbaugh Super Bowl years. We can't forget him. 8 picks in three seasons isn't too bad at all.

he also got burned by kearse in the most important play of nfccg, and he didnt do anything on the sb as well

Originally posted by alwayssecond:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Carlos Rogers created turnovers through the Harbaugh Super Bowl years. We can't forget him. 8 picks in three seasons isn't too bad at all.

he also got burned by kearse in the most important play of nfccg, and he didnt do anything on the sb as well

Smh, that's not what this post is about. Of course all these CB's got burnt one time or the other, the point was they created turnovers.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by alwayssecond:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Carlos Rogers created turnovers through the Harbaugh Super Bowl years. We can't forget him. 8 picks in three seasons isn't too bad at all.

he also got burned by kearse in the most important play of nfccg, and he didnt do anything on the sb as well

Smh, that's not what this post is about. Of course all these CB's got burnt one time or the other, the point was they created turnovers.

That post showed that many of these posters aren't looking for good corners. They are looking for corners that don't exist. Corners that give no separation, are never burned, and generate 5+ picks a year. Our secondary is in the top-10 in terms of yards given up, yet somehow we have the worse corners in the league. Last year, we were top 5 in passing yards given up. In 2019, we were number 1 in passing yards given up. Their worse season was year 1 for Kyle when they were ranked 22nd. Every year after that was top-11 or better, with one season as the number 1 pass defense.

There IS a glaring weakness- we don't create turnovers. But this defense is predicated on not given up the big play, something they do pretty well at overall. Even in a losing season (2018), our pass defense was better than most. We definitely can do better in that regard and it would help the offense (and defense) out immensely to get those extra possessions. But we are absolutely not a bad pass defense with bad corners (as a group). As a team. the DBs play exceptionally well compared to the rest of the league. If we actually did generate the turnovers, we'd be getting more buzz (Pro Bowls for a guy like Jimmie Ward for example).

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by alwayssecond:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Carlos Rogers created turnovers through the Harbaugh Super Bowl years. We can't forget him. 8 picks in three seasons isn't too bad at all.

he also got burned by kearse in the most important play of nfccg, and he didnt do anything on the sb as well

Smh, that's not what this post is about. Of course all these CB's got burnt one time or the other, the point was they created turnovers.

seriously some fans expect teams to have less than 100 yards passing a game

getting burned every once in a while doesnt make you a bad CB

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by alwayssecond:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Carlos Rogers created turnovers through the Harbaugh Super Bowl years. We can't forget him. 8 picks in three seasons isn't too bad at all.

he also got burned by kearse in the most important play of nfccg, and he didnt do anything on the sb as well

Smh, that's not what this post is about. Of course all these CB's got burnt one time or the other, the point was they created turnovers.

That post showed that many of these posters aren't looking for good corners. They are looking for corners that don't exist. Corners that give no separation, are never burned, and generate 5+ picks a year. Our secondary is in the top-10 in terms of yards given up, yet somehow we have the worse corners in the league. Last year, we were top 5 in passing yards given up. In 2019, we were number 1 in passing yards given up. Their worse season was year 1 for Kyle when they were ranked 22nd. Every year after that was top-11 or better, with one season as the number 1 pass defense.

There IS a glaring weakness- we don't create turnovers. But this defense is predicated on not given up the big play, something they do pretty well at overall. Even in a losing season (2018), our pass defense was better than most. We definitely can do better in that regard and it would help the offense (and defense) out immensely to get those extra possessions. But we are absolutely not a bad pass defense with bad corners (as a group). As a team. the DBs play exceptionally well compared to the rest of the league. If we actually did generate the turnovers, we'd be getting more buzz (Pro Bowls for a guy like Jimmie Ward for example).

Kind of misleading about not giving up the big plays when the 49ers secondary this year gave up a total of 20 PI's which is the most in the NFL. I think if you converted those into yards the 49ers secondary looks even worse.

49ers are in the playoffs 9 times outta 10 when the defense creates turnovers and doesn't worry about giving up the big play. I can't remember a time when the 9ers were in the playoffs and the defense didn't create turnovers??

I'd be happy if they would make receivers have to earn yards by catching the ball instead of giving them 40 yard interference freebies.

Norman is the worst. He used to be a gambler that would come up big sometimes. Now he folds before all the cards are dealt.

Originally posted by pdfortune:
I'd be happy if they would make receivers have to earn yards by catching the ball instead of giving them 40 yard interference freebies.

Norman is the worst. He used to be a gambler that would come up big sometimes. Now he folds before all the cards are dealt.

Again you get what you paid for. Norman was a measly million dollars, Jalen Ramsey is getting paid top dollar and even he gets caught outta position at times. Sure I'd most definitely love to have Ramsey over Norman no doubt, but that would mean spending money on a CB something Lynch doesn't do.

I think some of it has to do with the defensive style and the way they're coached. They play a lot of zone because they don't have great coverage guys that can play man well. I don't know that they're taught to go after the ball.

What's this "interception" thing you speak of?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I think some of it has to do with the defensive style and the way they're coached. They play a lot of zone because they don't have great coverage guys that can play man well. I don't know that they're taught to go after the ball.

This. Most of the time our db;'s are simply too far off to make a play on the ball. They are never in position to sit and drive on routes b/c they are mostly backpedaling. I think DR wanted to change that with JV and Thomas. One reason they never brought Sherman back. He wasn't going to be fit until injuries set us back.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:
Like others have said, and I have said for many years, our cornerbacks have been complete s**te since 1995. Sherm had a decent year, Ahmed Plummer and Walt Harris had maybe 1 decent year each.

But it blows my mind how we have been this bad at cornerback for a f**king quarter century. You'd figure the team would accidentally even find a good corner back in the time since f**king batman forever was in theaters to now.

Carlos Rogers created turnovers through the Harbaugh Super Bowl years. We can't forget him. 8 picks in three seasons isn't too bad at all.

2.6 picks a year is kinda bad at all.

We simply don't Invest enough Draft capital when It comes to the secondary. Drafting Mid/late round draft picks, as well as signing bottom of the barrel CBs ( Norman ) from free agency doesn't help either.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I think some of it has to do with the defensive style and the way they're coached. They play a lot of zone because they don't have great coverage guys that can play man well. I don't know that they're taught to go after the ball.

This. Most of the time our db;'s are simply too far off to make a play on the ball. They are never in position to sit and drive on routes b/c they are mostly backpedaling. I think DR wanted to change that with JV and Thomas. One reason they never brought Sherman back. He wasn't going to be fit until injuries set us back.

They don't backpedal in this defense.