The reason why we can't finish games is because

Originally posted by Wubbie:
It wasn't wrong, just unnecessary. I trust Jimmy's 25/25 QB Sneak conversion success. If they stop us on that, that's not something I'd second guess.

no I was all for the QB sneak, it was the motion that was wierd...didn't hate it, would have worked if Jimmy let Trent get set. He saw a advantage and got excited lol.

Either way they got the W and there's a lot of sad Dallas fans

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Wubbie:
It wasn't wrong, just unnecessary. I trust Jimmy's 25/25 QB Sneak conversion success. If they stop us on that, that's not something I'd second guess.

no I was all for the QB sneak, it was the motion that was wierd...didn't hate it, would have worked if Jimmy let Trent get set. He saw a advantage and got excited lol.

Either way they got the W and there's a lot of sad Dallas fans

The motion was weird, in this game, everyone knew it was a QB sneak, it was pointless right?

Wrong, Kyle does nothing that's pointless, he'll do it again and maybe again, and no one will care that Trent has moved.

Then when we're playing against a team with great Nose tackles, uh say the Bucs, Trent will motion and we'll run off tackle right behind him for a huge gain.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
The motion was weird, in this game, everyone knew it was a QB sneak, it was pointless right?

Wrong, Kyle does nothing that's pointless, he'll do it again and maybe again, and no one will care that Trent has moved.

Then when we're playing against a team with great Nose tackles, uh say the Bucs, Trent will motion and we'll run off tackle right behind him for a huge gain.

works for me...jimmy gotta wait regardless. Games over there if that happens.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
I disagree with the whole idea of draining the clock. You should try and move the ball and score every time unless you have a lead that is literally impossible to insurmount. You take a lot more time off the clock by moving the ball, and if you score, better yet.

Yet us draining the clock led to the Cowboys having 32 seconds to drive 80 yards to score a TD with no timeout.

Draining the clock by predominantly running is a valid strategy. It's just balancing the aggression/conservatism by how much time there is left on the clock. That's the question. If we're running when there's still 15 minutes left, that's too conservative. But if we're throwing passes with two minutes left, that's too aggressive.

To be fair that final drive you are talking about was the 2nd time we punted away to them with a 6 point, one TD beats us, lead. Recall the D already stopped them on the 4th down heave to Wilson that was juuust incomplete.

We punted to them with 2:51 remaining AND we punted to them with 40 seconds remaining.

Our last drive, Shanahan called a beautiful gutsy outside run to Deebo that was short of the first down by inches. Our QB Sneak didn't happen because of the flag, which we've talked about ad nauseum.

It wasn't as if we ran the ball three times for one yard each and then punted. They were aggressively trying to get the first down to seal the win, but still considering the game context.

Stopped short by inches and snapping the ball a half second too early on that last drive. Playoff football is tough. So many plays are a matter of inches. Kittle's fumble was wiped out because of a pass that was inaccurate by a couple inches. The Cowboys needed another second just for their last attempt.

I say, enjoy the win. Nitpicking is a maddening exercise. So many ways that could've gone right/wrong for us.

To KS, a one score lead means time to run out the clock

Did we win?

Im getting tired of fans complaining about the play calling. You guys have no issue with his play calling in the first half. You guys had no issue with it last week when they came back and beat the Rams.

You guys get play calling and lack of execution mixed up. A bad play call is running a QB up the middle with 14 seconds left in a game with no timeouts.

Originally posted by miked1978:
Did we win?

Im getting tired of fans complaining about the play calling. You guys have no issue with his play calling in the first half. You guys had no issue with it last week when they came back and beat the Rams.

You guys get play calling and lack of execution mixed up. A bad play call is running a QB up the middle with 14 seconds left in a game with no timeouts.

This.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
I disagree with the whole idea of draining the clock. You should try and move the ball and score every time unless you have a lead that is literally impossible to insurmount. You take a lot more time off the clock by moving the ball, and if you score, better yet.

Yet us draining the clock led to the Cowboys having 32 seconds to drive 80 yards to score a TD with no timeout.

Draining the clock by predominantly running is a valid strategy. It's just balancing the aggression/conservatism by how much time there is left on the clock. That's the question. If we're running when there's still 15 minutes left, that's too conservative. But if we're throwing passes with two minutes left, that's too aggressive.

To be fair that final drive you are talking about was the 2nd time we punted away to them with a 6 point, one TD beats us, lead. Recall the D already stopped them on the 4th down heave to Wilson that was juuust incomplete.

We punted to them with 2:51 remaining AND we punted to them with 40 seconds remaining.

Our last drive, Shanahan called a beautiful gutsy outside run to Deebo that was short of the first down by inches. Our QB Sneak didn't happen because of the flag, which we've talked about ad nauseum.

It wasn't as if we ran the ball three times for one yard each and then punted. They were aggressively trying to get the first down to seal the win, but still considering the game context.

Stopped short by inches and snapping the ball a half second too early on that last drive. Playoff football is tough. So many plays are a matter of inches. Kittle's fumble was wiped out because of a pass that was inaccurate by a couple inches. The Cowboys needed another second just for their last attempt.

I say, enjoy the win. Nitpicking is a maddening exercise. So many ways that could've gone right/wrong for us.

That holding call on the Deebo run was a killer. Game's over if we didn't have holding there (several by Tomlinson and Aiyuk)...costly.

Jimmy G

E (Whiny fans)

I'm thinking If they take a shot or two there's a high possibility of a PI on Thomas or Moseley. And then one play for the game.

I could see it playing out. I'm happy Dallas had a massive brain fart

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:
Look, I'm not making excuses for Jimmy, as he certainly has his periodic wtf throw, but we also can't underestimate how his thumb injury may be impacting some of his thows. Bottom line if he's healthy enough to start he's expected to complete those passes. I just I'd offer that as food for thought.

He will still making those WTF throws well before the thumb injury, but I understand your point.

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that he didn't, he's kind of a Jekyll and Hyde type of QB that just who he is as a player. I was just wondering if the thumb was a factor on that specific throw.

Originally posted by Jookie:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:
Look, I'm not making excuses for Jimmy, as he certainly has his periodic wtf throw, but we also can't underestimate how his thumb injury may be impacting some of his thows. Bottom line if he's healthy enough to start he's expected to complete those passes. I just I'd offer that as food for thought.

He makes some of those types of throws pre-thumb injury also.

He's that type of player were he'll have a few plays every game that leave you scratching your head. Some of it is decision making, some of it is execution. On the flip side, he's also a really effective QB at times in this offensive system. There's an argument the offense is shaped around his strengths but even still he's done a pretty good job for the most part.

He'll never be a dynamic QB who wows in the way Allen, Burrow and Mahomes do. But not many QBs do. We might have one of those QBs in our ranks already. The potential is there. In the meantime the best chance of success is with Jimmy at QB. He's probably not the long the term answer. But he's good enough, with the rest of this roster, to compete and win play-off games. His W-L record as a starter is testament to that.

True Jimmy will always fail if he's in a game where he has to match the Rodgers', Mahomes', Allen's, Burrow's, and Brady's of the league throw for throw which is why we drafted Trey. Jimmy's success is largely contingent on the running game. I think we will always be a team that shoots for a balanced attack, but hopefully Trey will develop into the type of player that can carry the team for stretches of time of need be and allow us to be more competitive in games in which we find ourselves in a shoot out.

The reason why the team couldn't close out the game is quite obviously that Jimmy found ways to keep Dallas in the game:
If he connects with Aiyuk on 3rd down, the game ends way before the whole drama. If he doesn't throw the interception, the game ends before the drama. If he doesn't snap the ball before Williams was set, the game ends.

Apart from a few calls this was a smart game by Shanahan and Ryans. The only reason the game got close again after Deebo's TD run were Garoppolo's mistakes. The high throws might have been due to his injuries but it is what it is.

we take the foot off the gas a lot in these closer games. we absolutely had them on the ropes and we let them come back with mistakes. we will need a kill instinct against rodgers

E) Turnovers. Whereas other teams have a qb that takes care of the football, we have a qb that consistently overthrows receivers and commits turnovers frequently. That is the only thing that is holding us back. If not for that, we would be by far the most dominant team in the league because we have everything else that we need. We can only hope that this problem disappears when Trey Lance takes over as the starting qb.