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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
After the Deebo TD run we had 11 first down plays the rest of the game. 10 were runs. The only pass was 18 yards to Kittle.

No, Jennings got a 1st down on 3rd and 4 at 6:29 in the 4th. They threw the ball after that TD to Deebo 8 times) but didn't have a ton of success
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 17, 2022 at 12:10 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
After the Deebo TD run we had 11 first down plays the rest of the game. 10 were runs. The only pass was 18 yards to Kittle.

No that was not the only pass lol

Okay name the other/s
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
After the Deebo TD run we had 11 first down plays the rest of the game. 10 were runs. The only pass was 18 yards to Kittle.

No that was not the only pass lol

I mean… Passing in the fourth quarter with a lead, when it's known that your QB isn't known as being the best when it comes to ball security…

The runs were fine. They drained clock. The Cowboys wish they had just a few more seconds. So many coulda, shoulda, wouldas…
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
After the Deebo TD run we had 11 first down plays the rest of the game. 10 were runs. The only pass was 18 yards to Kittle.

No, Jennings got a 1st down on 3rd and 4

My sentence says first down plays. You mention a third down play. What I'm saying is plays that we ran ON first down. Not plays that resulted in a first down. Talking first down play calls here. After the Deebo TD it is 10 runs and 1 pass that was actually thrown which was 18 yards to Kittle.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
After the Deebo TD run we had 11 first down plays the rest of the game. 10 were runs. The only pass was 18 yards to Kittle.

No that was not the only pass lol

Okay name the other/s

Jennings got a 1st down on 3rd and 4. They threw the ball 8 more times after that Deebo TD, but weren't having success doing it.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
After the Deebo TD run we had 11 first down plays the rest of the game. 10 were runs. The only pass was 18 yards to Kittle.

No that was not the only pass lol

Okay name the other/s

Jennings got a 1st down on 3rd and 4. They threw the ball 8 more times after that Deebo TD, but weren't having success doing it.

Yeah they were throwing not on first when the D is ready for run and not ready for pass. They were throwing on 2nd or 3rd and long when the D is playing pass. In other words we were playing into their hands most of the 4th.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My sentence says first down plays. You mention a third down play. What I'm saying is plays that we ran ON first down. Not plays that resulted in a first down. Talking first down play calls here. After the Deebo TD it is 10 runs and 1 pass that was actually thrown which was 18 yards to Kittle.

listen to your stipulations....1st or 2nd down plays that are thrown balls in the 4th QR that turn into 1st downs. What else you want to add to the list?

I don't even know what you're trying to prove by stating any of this anyway? 16 of his 25 passing attempts happened on 1st/2nd down. It's not run. run. pray Jimmy converts on 3rd down.

They're a run heavy team and everyone knows this. Why would you ask Jimmy to throw the ball MORE when you're trying to eat up the clock? Bad things happen when you ask him to start throwing it more and it started to happen late in the 4th QR. Two of his throws on 2nd down were a INT and a almost fumble in part because of a bad throw. It was part of the reason Dallas was even in the game.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 17, 2022 at 12:17 PM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yeah they were throwing not on first when the D is ready for run and not ready for pass. They were throwing on 2nd or 3rd and long when the D is playing pass. In other words we were playing into their hands most of the 4th.

lol if Jimmy was throwing the ball on first down with a two score lead late in the second half....this fan base would be going nuts. We ALL know this is a run team, that's what it's built to do. Asking Jimmy to throw it is what teams want SF to do, Dallas leads the league in TOs and you want to throw it? Guess what, when they did that it almost cost the damn game.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 17, 2022 at 12:21 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My sentence says first down plays. You mention a third down play. What I'm saying is plays that we ran ON first down. Not plays that resulted in a first down. Talking first down play calls here. After the Deebo TD it is 10 runs and 1 pass that was actually thrown which was 18 yards to Kittle.

listen to your stipulations....1st or 2nd down plays that are thrown balls in the 4th QR that turn into 1st downs. What else you want to add to the list?

I don't even know what you're trying to prove by stating any of this anyway? 16 of his 25 passing attempts happened on 1st/2nd down. It's not run. run. pray Jimmy converts on 3rd down.

They're a run heavy team and everyone knows this. Why would you ask Jimmy to throw the ball MORE when you're trying to eat up the clock? Bad things happen when you ask him to start throwing it more and it started to happen late in the 4th QR. Two of his throws on 2nd down were a INT and a almost fumble in part because of a bad throw. It was part of the reason Dallas was even in the game.

Those aren't my stipulations. You simply aren't understanding what I am saying. I'm talking about the play calls on first downs at the end. That is it. Not plays resulting in first downs. Not second down plays.

After the Deebo TD run we had 11 plays where the down and distance was 1st and something. 10 runs. 1 pass (our best offensive play of the 4th). Too conservative and predictable IMO.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
After the Deebo TD run we had 11 first down plays the rest of the game. 10 were runs. The only pass was 18 yards to Kittle.

No that was not the only pass lol

Okay name the other/s

Jennings got a 1st down on 3rd and 4. They threw the ball 8 more times after that Deebo TD, but weren't having success doing it.

Yeah they were throwing not on first when the D is ready for run and not ready for pass. They were throwing on 2nd or 3rd and long when the D is playing pass. In other words we were playing into their hands most of the 4th.

Quinn was all over Kyle's tendencies this game. Props to him. And we still won!
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My sentence says first down plays. You mention a third down play. What I'm saying is plays that we ran ON first down. Not plays that resulted in a first down. Talking first down play calls here. After the Deebo TD it is 10 runs and 1 pass that was actually thrown which was 18 yards to Kittle.

listen to your stipulations....1st or 2nd down plays that are thrown balls in the 4th QR that turn into 1st downs. What else you want to add to the list?

I don't even know what you're trying to prove by stating any of this anyway? 16 of his 25 passing attempts happened on 1st/2nd down. It's not run. run. pray Jimmy converts on 3rd down.

They're a run heavy team and everyone knows this. Why would you ask Jimmy to throw the ball MORE when you're trying to eat up the clock? Bad things happen when you ask him to start throwing it more and it started to happen late in the 4th QR. Two of his throws on 2nd down were a INT and a almost fumble in part because of a bad throw. It was part of the reason Dallas was even in the game.

Those aren't my stipulations. You simply aren't understanding what I am saying. I'm talking about the play calls on first downs at the end. That is it. Not plays resulting in first downs. Not second down plays.

After the Deebo TD run we had 11 plays where the down and distance was 1st and something. 10 runs. 1 pass (our best offensive play of the 4th). Too conservative and predictable IMO.
We need to run the ball there.. everyone knows it.. and we almost did it
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My sentence says first down plays. You mention a third down play. What I'm saying is plays that we ran ON first down. Not plays that resulted in a first down. Talking first down play calls here. After the Deebo TD it is 10 runs and 1 pass that was actually thrown which was 18 yards to Kittle.

listen to your stipulations....1st or 2nd down plays that are thrown balls in the 4th QR that turn into 1st downs. What else you want to add to the list?

I don't even know what you're trying to prove by stating any of this anyway? 16 of his 25 passing attempts happened on 1st/2nd down. It's not run. run. pray Jimmy converts on 3rd down.

They're a run heavy team and everyone knows this. Why would you ask Jimmy to throw the ball MORE when you're trying to eat up the clock? Bad things happen when you ask him to start throwing it more and it started to happen late in the 4th QR. Two of his throws on 2nd down were a INT and a almost fumble in part because of a bad throw. It was part of the reason Dallas was even in the game.

Those aren't my stipulations. You simply aren't understanding what I am saying. I'm talking about the play calls on first downs at the end. That is it. Not plays resulting in first downs. Not second down plays.

After the Deebo TD run we had 11 plays where the down and distance was 1st and something. 10 runs. 1 pass (our best offensive play of the 4th). Too conservative and predictable IMO.

Probably one of Kyle's worst games as a play caller if we're being honest. This is definitely a Kyle M.O. when under heat.
Oh and they had 3 possessions in the 4th QR, one ended with Jimmy tossing a INT passing it on 2nd and 10. the second series went over 5 mins because they ran the damn ball, the one pass on 2nd and 7 was that Kittle almost fumble. 3rd drive started at 1:42 no one is passing the ball there.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Oh and they had 3 possessions in the 4th QR, one ended with Jimmy tossing a INT passing it on 2nd and 10. the second series went over 5 mins because they ran the damn ball, the one pass on 2nd and 7 was that Kittle almost fumble. 3rd drive started at 1:42 no one is passing the ball there.

ya i didnt feel like the were conservative at all at the end they were just playing smart

and sometimes a good D will make plays. If you expect to dominate for 4 Q against the playoffs then you better hope you play the steelers or eagles every game
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My sentence says first down plays. You mention a third down play. What I'm saying is plays that we ran ON first down. Not plays that resulted in a first down. Talking first down play calls here. After the Deebo TD it is 10 runs and 1 pass that was actually thrown which was 18 yards to Kittle.

listen to your stipulations....1st or 2nd down plays that are thrown balls in the 4th QR that turn into 1st downs. What else you want to add to the list?

I don't even know what you're trying to prove by stating any of this anyway? 16 of his 25 passing attempts happened on 1st/2nd down. It's not run. run. pray Jimmy converts on 3rd down.

They're a run heavy team and everyone knows this. Why would you ask Jimmy to throw the ball MORE when you're trying to eat up the clock? Bad things happen when you ask him to start throwing it more and it started to happen late in the 4th QR. Two of his throws on 2nd down were a INT and a almost fumble in part because of a bad throw. It was part of the reason Dallas was even in the game.

Those aren't my stipulations. You simply aren't understanding what I am saying. I'm talking about the play calls on first downs at the end. That is it. Not plays resulting in first downs. Not second down plays.

After the Deebo TD run we had 11 plays where the down and distance was 1st and something. 10 runs. 1 pass (our best offensive play of the 4th). Too conservative and predictable IMO.

Probably one of Kyle's worst games as a play caller if we're being honest. This is definitely a Kyle M.O. when under heat.

I don't have a problem with it. We ran the ball. It took off clock. Our defense is playing well.

In the end, the Cowboys got the ball back with less than a minute to play and the game ended with them standing around wishing they had one more second on the game clock.
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