49ers @ Packers - Divisional Round Coaches Film Analysis Thread

WOOOOOO-EEEEEE what a great game. That was some of the best and funnest defensive film I've watched in a long time. Such good stuff. DeMeco Ryans is a freaking stud. I just really hope we have a succession plan in place cause that dude deserves to be a HC and will be a great HC.

I feel more confident with demeco and this defense than the 2019 defense. As strange as that sounds.

Thank you so much Jonny! Question I wanted to ask you on Jimmy's interception. When he released the ball, Kittle was open. But it hung in the air long enough for the defender to make up ground and intercept it. It seems there were even a few plays after that where it almost happened again. Do you think if that is Trey Lance throwing the ball with his velocity it is still intercepted? Edit: Follow up, do you think the throw was effected by his injured shoulder and thumb, or is that just the maximum arm strength Jimmy has?

Still watching the video. Great stuff. The play @3:20. I think that's Cover3 Cloud, not Cover 2 zone. It's Cover3 but the CB (DJohnson) plays a Flat, then two safeties and a CB play the deep 1/3s. Your point remains, they disguised presnap to give a 1v1 DJohnson vs Adams look, very enticing for Rodgers, then took it away by running the safety into the sideline deep 1/3 to cloud over Adams. (Moseley is a deep 1/3 on the other side)

Very nice breakdown @8:10. This is the impatient Rodgers I was referring to. When the Smash was taken way, it's checkdown time. He had a checkdown for maybe a 4 yard gain, which is fine on 2nd down with no one having good footing so missed tackles are a possibility. Rodgers elected to scramble and make something happen. Nope.

Jonny,
Will the defense used against Adam work against Kupp?

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Thank you so much Jonny! Question I wanted to ask you on Jimmy's interception. When he released the ball, Kittle was open. But it hung in the air long enough for the defender to make up ground and intercept it. It seems there were even a few plays after that where it almost happened again. Do you think if that is Trey Lance throwing the ball with his velocity it is still intercepted? Edit: Follow up, do you think the throw was effected by his injured shoulder and thumb, or is that just the maximum arm strength Jimmy has?

I don't know. I mean, it wasn't a great decision. Maybe Lance gets it there in time - he has a stronger arm but I'd prefer either guy to just grass it or out of bounds it. Mack got beat off the get go. that's where I wouldn't mind Lance using his legs to make something out of nothing. The biggest thing is with a game this close, points were gold. You don't' take points off the board.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I feel more confident with demeco and this defense than the 2019 defense. As strange as that sounds.

Seems like they've saved our asses a lot more than 2019 and with less CB talent.

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Jonny,
Will the defense used against Adam work against Kupp?

Sure. We stuck to our principles - which is we don't double guys just to double them. The last time I remember that happening was 2019 vs the Falcons on Julio and it failed, miserably. We just aren't adept at running those types of coverages. What we tend to do, is take away certain areas of the field that teams like to get certain players the ball to at. But we're not gonna be the Patriots and double the opposing teams top threat the whole game.

So, yes it can work but the key is generating pressure. As long as we can get home, our secondary can help our DL get home - if that makes sense.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I feel more confident with demeco and this defense than the 2019 defense. As strange as that sounds.

Not so strange a notion to me. A lot of folks feel that way. We'll see how far we can go with the horses we currently have. The only way we can be better is if we finish the job.

Originally posted by thl408:
Still watching the video. Great stuff. The play @3:20. I think that's Cover3 Cloud, not Cover 2 zone. It's Cover3 but the CB (DJohnson) plays a Flat, then two safeties and a CB play the deep 1/3s. Your point remains, they disguised presnap to give a 1v1 DJohnson vs Adams look, very enticing for Rodgers, then took it away by running the safety into the sideline deep 1/3 to cloud over Adams. (Moseley is a deep 1/3 on the other side)

Very nice breakdown @8:10. This is the impatient Rodgers I was referring to. When the Smash was taken way, it's checkdown time. He had a checkdown for maybe a 4 yard gain, which is fine on 2nd down with no one having good footing so missed tackles are a possibility. Rodgers elected to scramble and make something happen. Nope.

Definitely could be. I was going back and forth on in it but it didn't seem that K'Waun Williams had an urgency to the curl/flat area, which is why I felt like it was 2zone no 3cloud.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Jonny,
Will the defense used against Adam work against Kupp?

Sure. We stuck to our principles - which is we don't double guys just to double them. The last time I remember that happening was 2019 vs the Falcons on Julio and it failed, miserably. We just aren't adept at running those types of coverages. What we tend to do, is take away certain areas of the field that teams like to get certain players the ball to at. But we're not gonna be the Patriots and double the opposing teams top threat the whole game.

So, yes it can work but the key is generating pressure. As long as we can get home, our secondary can help our DL get home - if that makes sense.

The Rams have multiple receiving targets that can make a defense pay for doubling a WR. Rodgers was missing his #2 target (MVScantling) and wasn't willing to throw to anyone but DAdams and AJones. Adams and Jones were clearly favored with 11 and 10 targets, respectively. The next guy had 2 targets, the rest had 1 each. Yeah the key is generating pressure with four rushers, and the 49ers have shown they can consistently do that versus the Rams.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Thank you so much Jonny! Question I wanted to ask you on Jimmy's interception. When he released the ball, Kittle was open. But it hung in the air long enough for the defender to make up ground and intercept it. It seems there were even a few plays after that where it almost happened again. Do you think if that is Trey Lance throwing the ball with his velocity it is still intercepted? Edit: Follow up, do you think the throw was effected by his injured shoulder and thumb, or is that just the maximum arm strength Jimmy has?

I don't know. I mean, it wasn't a great decision. Maybe Lance gets it there in time - he has a stronger arm but I'd prefer either guy to just grass it or out of bounds it. Mack got beat off the get go. that's where I wouldn't mind Lance using his legs to make something out of nothing. The biggest thing is with a game this close, points were gold. You don't' take points off the board.

Gotcha. Problem was the decision making, not the throw. Because he DID try similar throws after that which luckily weren't picked. Really wish the dude would learn from his mistakes.

Nice pointing out the GB defensive personnel on that 3rd & 7 Deebo run. 3rd & 7, no way the 49ers run the ball, put in the Dime team (1 DT, 4 LBs, 6 DBs).

49ers run the ball.

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice pointing out the GB defensive personnel on that 3rd & 7 Deebo run. 3rd & 7, no way the 49ers run the ball, put in the Dime team (1 DT, 4 LBs, 6 DBs).

49ers run the ball.

This was brilliant….just watching , i had no idea there was but 1 DT on the field. What a great call, but still, huge cojones by kyle.

The fascinating thing, JD, is the way Meco has learned how to disguise coverages, and there is no question, he beat ARod mentally….a number of times. Thanks for this, there was SOOO much more here than what i saw. This just looks like the play calling , both O and D , was equally as good as the players themselves. Without your vid, i would have missed half the game.

How does a Demeco , LB coach, come in and in 1 yr, easily surpass Saleh's last yr D? Meco must be thinking along the same lines as kyle, albeit, on the D, not the O. This pretty well answers my question, how long does it take for a newly minted DC to really learn the intricacies of D playcalling? It looks like for a guy like Demeco it was about 15-16 games, or within one season. Saleh at his best never got to this level. At least i don't think so.

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I feel more confident with demeco and this defense than the 2019 defense. As strange as that sounds.

Seems like they've saved our asses a lot more than 2019 and with less CB talent.

Actually, I feel like Demeco Ryans has taken this scheme farther than Saleh in terms of how he mixes it up and disguises things.

But at the same time, that 2019 pass rush was so overwhelmingly disruptive. There'd be plays where Bosa, Buckner, Ford, Armstead would collapse the pocket so fast…

This year's team isn't as strong in either the pass rush or coverage, but because Ryans muddies the QB's read so well, it gives the pass rush more time to get home… and they do it with tremendous effort.

Different defenses… I'm very excited to see how they finish this playoff run. I feel great about our defense.