The reason we lost nobody wants to talk about

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Wrathman:
Nice assessment Rings! I totally agree, and am excited for Trey!

Oh....hes not even a good game manager now ... despite being 31 and 15 and going to two championship games in 3 years.

It never stops in the web zone.

Good game managers generally don't throw picks

no one is arguaing hes an elite QB. But lets show some appreciation for a player that got us to two straight NFCCG. His limitations is why were moving on but stop being so ungrateful and show some grattitude.

All i gotta say is if Lance doesnt make it to this stage next year i feel bad for him because this fan base is full of whiners who dont really think critically and only by emotion

Wrong. The people criticizing Jimmy are not the irrational ones. We will not be slamming Trey while he's in his first year as a starter. It's not "this fan base" that's causing Jimmy to be criticized. It's "this fan base" that is so delusional that they witness him do a BLAINE GABBERT and try to blame Shanahan.

you callimg him blaine gabbert is proving my point

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Wrathman:
Nice assessment Rings! I totally agree, and am excited for Trey!

Oh....hes not even a good game manager now ... despite being 31 and 15 and going to two championship games in 3 years.

It never stops in the web zone.

Good game managers generally don't throw picks

no one is arguaing hes an elite QB. But lets show some appreciation for a player that got us to two straight NFCCG. His limitations is why were moving on but stop being so ungrateful and show some grattitude.

All i gotta say is if Lance doesnt make it to this stage next year i feel bad for him because this fan base is full of whiners who dont really think critically and only by emotion

I guarantee you. Only morons will be criticizing Lance after 1 year, or 1 or 2 games. In fact, they are already saying it. Saying next year is "playoffs or bust" for Lance.

I mean first off, we don't even know what this roster is going to look like. Remains to be seen if they're even going to retain most of their guys in free agency. So already, you got these people that hated Lance from the get go putting pressure on him. It is what it is.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by DrEll:
We lost because we're a run heavy team. LA knew it and decided to stack the box and force us to throw. Kyle knew that LA would stack the box and force us to throw. Kyle decided not to change the game plan because he doesn't trust Jimmy.

it's as simple as that.

If this is true then we have bigger issues than just Jimmy because it means Kyle coached to lose this game.

Kyle was coaching to lose the second he decided not to split first team reps between Jimmy and Trey and make it a real competition in week one of the off-season.

Was a tough decision. He almost squeeked through with it too,...cant be mad.

the fact we played in NFCCG and it was literally downt o the wire kinda shows it was 100% correct decision

what does coaching to lose mean lol

Ive never heard of a coach being accused of coaching to lose from the offseason that eventually went to the NFCCG. That might be the dumbest thing ive heard

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Wrathman:
Nice assessment Rings! I totally agree, and am excited for Trey!

Oh....hes not even a good game manager now ... despite being 31 and 15 and going to two championship games in 3 years.

It never stops in the web zone.

Good game managers generally don't throw picks

no one is arguaing hes an elite QB. But lets show some appreciation for a player that got us to two straight NFCCG. His limitations is why were moving on but stop being so ungrateful and show some grattitude.

All i gotta say is if Lance doesnt make it to this stage next year i feel bad for him because this fan base is full of whiners who dont really think critically and only by emotion

I guarantee you. Only morons will be criticizing Lance after 1 year, or 1 or 2 games. In fact, they are already saying it. Saying next year is "playoffs or bust" for Lance.

I mean first off, we don't even know what this roster is going to look like. Remains to be seen if they're even going to retain most of their guys in free agency. So already, you got these people that hated Lance from the get go putting pressure on him. It is what it is.

thats my point. I mean people are win here calling Jimmy G a horrible QB who cant win. A lot of our fans ( and i think this is true of most football fans) are completely emotional and arent the most critical thinkers

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
No team has all day to throw. If you only watch the 49ers I could see why someone would assume the grass is greener but it's not.

The entire NFL has a quality OL shortage.

Pass blocking is an issue for every team.

I would argue our OL was the best in the playoffs.

Joe Burrow almost saw more pressure in his playoff games than Jimmy saw all season lol.

that wasn't all day they gave up a lot of pressure immediately. when he had time we moved the ball through the pass well. He actually moved the ball better than stafford if you look at the stats (since you're so interested in box score)

Our right side of the OL was not good the last 2 games. It was good during cowboys game and last strech of the season. Im not saying. Jimmy G played amazing but the dropped int, and right side of OL was a bigger issue than Jimmy for me

And look at my history i am saying we should move on and go to Lance all i am saying is lets be rational Jimmy played well enough to win us the game but he didnt do enough (wasnt a game changer) and we should show appreciation for a player who took us to NFCCG 2x and won road playoff games as underdogs throught this run and we did barely lose to a great Rams team who was favored

There's enough blame to go around. But I'm still going to disagree with you on the play of the right side of the line being more impactful than Jimmy G's performance.

According to PFF Compton gave up 3 pressures and 1 QB hit and Brunskil gave up 2 pressures. Neither gave up a sack.

Jimmy has the leagues best player blocking his blindside and y'all still want to blame the OL.

I watched the game just like you. I saw the Rams sell out to stop the run and Jimmy and the offense scoring 17 points.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Wrathman:
Nice assessment Rings! I totally agree, and am excited for Trey!

Oh....hes not even a good game manager now ... despite being 31 and 15 and going to two championship games in 3 years.

It never stops in the web zone.

Good game managers generally don't throw picks

no one is arguaing hes an elite QB. But lets show some appreciation for a player that got us to two straight NFCCG. His limitations is why were moving on but stop being so ungrateful and show some grattitude.

All i gotta say is if Lance doesnt make it to this stage next year i feel bad for him because this fan base is full of whiners who dont really think critically and only by emotion

I guarantee you. Only morons will be criticizing Lance after 1 year, or 1 or 2 games. In fact, they are already saying it. Saying next year is "playoffs or bust" for Lance.

I mean first off, we don't even know what this roster is going to look like. Remains to be seen if they're even going to retain most of their guys in free agency. So already, you got these people that hated Lance from the get go putting pressure on him. It is what it is.

thats my point. I mean people are win here calling Jimmy G a horrible QB who cant win. A lot of our fans ( and i think this is true of most football fans) are completely emotional and arent the most critical thinkers

he can't win because hes not a top QB. So what is there to say? We had plenty of guys here like A. Smith that just aren't good enough for a championship. If you don't have a guy like that, then what is the point of watching? Just being real with you.

I was also emotionless when Smith went to the Chiefs. And I do remember people on Webzone and sports blogs started crying about it. Saying he was a class act and this and that. Good for him. And good for Jimmy. But personally, I don't give a s**t if you're classy or not. I don't KNOW you on a personal level, so what does it matter to me? Just win a f**king championship.

The bottom line is the offense and defense left too many plays on the field.

Personal fouls by Ward and Greenlaw late.

Wide open touchdown to Kittle missed by Jimmy on first drive, and then other bad throws late.

Dropped interception.

Line couldn't get any push on both second and third & 2 in enemy territory.

Thomas taking the flat instead of deep corner on touchdown on third and very long.

Just too many mistakes overall.

Plus the Rams are good. Their gap filling run blitzes worked like a champ.
I never felt comfortable at 17-7 because we were being outplayed pretty much the whole game.

17 points in an NFCCG.

Great thread OP. If you would have given me the team stats pregame on our rushing stats I would have said welp good luck Bengals in the Super Bowl. Can't win that way.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Wrathman:
Nice assessment Rings! I totally agree, and am excited for Trey!

Oh....hes not even a good game manager now ... despite being 31 and 15 and going to two championship games in 3 years.

It never stops in the web zone.

Good game managers generally don't throw picks

no one is arguaing hes an elite QB. But lets show some appreciation for a player that got us to two straight NFCCG. His limitations is why were moving on but stop being so ungrateful and show some grattitude.

All i gotta say is if Lance doesnt make it to this stage next year i feel bad for him because this fan base is full of whiners who dont really think critically and only by emotion

I guarantee you. Only morons will be criticizing Lance after 1 year, or 1 or 2 games. In fact, they are already saying it. Saying next year is "playoffs or bust" for Lance.

I mean first off, we don't even know what this roster is going to look like. Remains to be seen if they're even going to retain most of their guys in free agency. So already, you got these people that hated Lance from the get go putting pressure on him. It is what it is.

Everyone throws picks. Come on. Dont be dumb.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
The bottom line is the offense and defense left too many plays on the field.

Personal fouls by Ward and Greenlaw late.

Wide open touchdown to Kittle missed by Jimmy on first drive, and then other bad throws late.

Dropped interception.

Line couldn't get any push on both second and third & 2 in enemy territory.

Thomas taking the flat instead of deep corner on touchdown on third and very long.

Just too many mistakes overall.

These are better critiques based on actual mistakes made on specific plays that is much closer to what I saw at the game left night. Stafford and McVay were picking on #20 from the very first play. We would've been down 0-14 if it hadn't been for that Ward INT. Those personal foul penalties and sloppy penalties put our offense in 2nd and 3rd and long while giving the Rams tons of free yardage.

I don't understand how we decided to bracket Davante Adams in double coverage but left K'Waun one on one with Kupp where he got burned repeatedly. Again, I feel like us trading away our mid-first rounder and first rounders the next two years for Lance while banking on Jason Verrett to be our number 1 left us vulnerable all season long. The dreaded 3rd and long. We gave up so many of those because our secondary plays such soft zone coverage. Getting to the NFC championship with a 3rd round cornerback and patchwork right guard and tackle was a recipe for disaster with Kupp, Beckham and Aaron Donald.

They were selling out to stop the run on 1st down. They played standard defense outside that. I don't have the stats, but if you check our 1st down runs vs 2nd down runs the difference would be GLARING.

Imo this was on shanny not throwing enough on 1st to push em back.run after run into 5 down linemen. We were always 2nd 8+ - against an elite defense it ain't gonna work...

We had man or 3 deep looks all day on 1st down an shanny refused to attack it. We run 1 fade vs it and aiyuk cooks the db, never go back. We had that play all day on 1st

Originally posted by mtl_49er:
They were selling out to stop the run on 1st down. They played standard defense outside that. I don't have the stats, but if you check our 1st down runs vs 2nd down runs the difference would be GLARING.

Imo this was on shanny not throwing enough on 1st to push em back.run after run into 5 down linemen. We were always 2nd 8+ - against an elite defense it ain't gonna work...

We had man or 3 deep looks all day on 1st down an shanny refused to attack it. We run 1 fade vs it and aiyuk cooks the db, never go back. We had that play all day on 1st

I wonder is JG not allowed to check it to pass in these fronts? Or does he have that option and choose not to? To me this is why being multiple is so important. I preached all year when folks were clamoring for 40+ runs a game that sometime this season that's not gonna be working and we will have to pass to win. If you are dependent on doing your one thing and they take it away...

To me Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle those guys win on routes and in one-on-ones should be able to feast.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Wrathman:
Nice assessment Rings! I totally agree, and am excited for Trey!

Oh....hes not even a good game manager now ... despite being 31 and 15 and going to two championship games in 3 years.

It never stops in the web zone.

Good game managers generally don't throw picks

no one is arguaing hes an elite QB. But lets show some appreciation for a player that got us to two straight NFCCG. His limitations is why were moving on but stop being so ungrateful and show some grattitude.

All i gotta say is if Lance doesnt make it to this stage next year i feel bad for him because this fan base is full of whiners who dont really think critically and only by emotion

Wrong. The people criticizing Jimmy are not the irrational ones. We will not be slamming Trey while he's in his first year as a starter. It's not "this fan base" that's causing Jimmy to be criticized. It's "this fan base" that is so delusional that they witness him do a BLAINE GABBERT and try to blame Shanahan.

you callimg him blaine gabbert is proving my point

I didn't call him Blaine Gabbert. Jimmy is ten times the QB Gabbert is. I said Jimmy stans WITNESSED him doing a Blaine Gabbert and blamed Shanahan.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by DrEll:
We lost because we're a run heavy team. LA knew it and decided to stack the box and force us to throw. Kyle knew that LA would stack the box and force us to throw. Kyle decided not to change the game plan because he doesn't trust Jimmy.

it's as simple as that.

If this is true then we have bigger issues than just Jimmy because it means Kyle coached to lose this game.

Kyle was coaching to lose the second he decided not to split first team reps between Jimmy and Trey and make it a real competition in week one of the off-season.

Was a tough decision. He almost squeeked through with it too,...cant be mad.

the fact we played in NFCCG and it was literally downt o the wire kinda shows it was 100% correct decision

what does coaching to lose mean lol

Ive never heard of a coach being accused of coaching to lose from the offseason that eventually went to the NFCCG. That might be the dumbest thing ive heard

That means "playing it safe." Installing Jimmy as the starter with no competition is the definition of playing it safe. That doesn't mean it's the wrong decision. It is SPECULATION that the team would have made the playoffs with a rookie QB. Kyle chose the safer option. Sometimes the safer option is the right option. Like when he kicked the field goal against Jacksonville after the incomplete to Wilson.