What improvements need to be made?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Not really. What if it's a game that the pass rush isn't getting home? We need guys who can cover. What if the refs aren't calling holding? you ok letting another team complete a 3rd and 15 b/c your db's mess up the coverage? Not me.

This is my thought process as well. Holding seems to be called much less (and has been like this for some time) during the playoffs. I want a solid DE, but I think going into next season with what the 49ers have at DB is risky. It's far too thin. Give me OL for Lance (and, because it needs upgrading regardless) and then a DB. That doesn't mean I think the 49ers should neglect DE, just don't neglect DB in favor of DE.

Corners are for more important to our future success imo. We can find ways to manufacture pressure.

I could not agree more we need to be able to cover better when the pressure just doesn't get there.

It's an arms race, SF versus LAR. LAR will have Kupp and Robert Woods so the 49ers need to counter. The division in general has very good WRs and it would help for the 49ers to have some good CBs. It's time to have some balance between assets allocated towards the DL and the DBs. Both CB and Edge can use upgrades but if it was an either/or situation, which it's not, I'd choose CB.

I wonder if the team is content with letting Thomas develop, Lenoir replace K'Waun, and Moseley keep his spot. That doesn't sound exciting, just wondering if the team will be patient with their youth at CB.

I recall when the Rams were the Greatest Show on Turf we felt the need to counter. We selected in the first round, cornerback from the University of Miami, Mike Rumph. Problem solved.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Not really. What if it's a game that the pass rush isn't getting home? We need guys who can cover. What if the refs aren't calling holding? you ok letting another team complete a 3rd and 15 b/c your db's mess up the coverage? Not me.

This is my thought process as well. Holding seems to be called much less (and has been like this for some time) during the playoffs. I want a solid DE, but I think going into next season with what the 49ers have at DB is risky. It's far too thin. Give me OL for Lance (and, because it needs upgrading regardless) and then a DB. That doesn't mean I think the 49ers should neglect DE, just don't neglect DB in favor of DE.

Corners are for more important to our future success imo. We can find ways to manufacture pressure.

I could not agree more we need to be able to cover better when the pressure just doesn't get there.

It's an arms race, SF versus LAR. LAR will have Kupp and Robert Woods so the 49ers need to counter. The division in general has very good WRs and it would help for the 49ers to have some good CBs. It's time to have some balance between assets allocated towards the DL and the DBs. Both CB and Edge can use upgrades but if it was an either/or situation, which it's not, I'd choose CB.

I wonder if the team is content with letting Thomas develop, Lenoir replace K'Waun, and Moseley keep his spot. That doesn't sound exciting, just wondering if the team will be patient with their youth at CB.

I recall when the Rams were the Greatest Show on Turf we felt the need to counter. We selected in the first round, cornerback from the University of Miami, Mike Rumph. Problem solved.

I get that Corner is the riskier pick… but we have to try to upgrade that position. Whether that's through the draft or free agency. Or we will get to the NFC championship again and the refs will allow holding and our corners will continue to get torched.

Originally posted by thl408:
It's an arms race, SF versus LAR. LAR will have Kupp and Robert Woods so the 49ers need to counter. The division in general has very good WRs and it would help for the 49ers to have some good CBs. It's time to have some balance between assets allocated towards the DL and the DBs. Both CB and Edge can use upgrades but if it was an either/or situation, which it's not, I'd choose CB.

I wonder if the team is content with letting Thomas develop, Lenoir replace K'Waun, and Moseley keep his spot. That doesn't sound exciting, just wondering if the team will be patient with their youth at CB.

Clearly, Thomas was beginning to justify their faith in him by the end of the season. Based on what he did last year, he could be pretty good this coming season. Moseley has been OK when healthy. Lenoir for Williams is a question mark for me. We just did not see enough of him to know what he can do.

I would be shocked if they did not use a 3rd on a DB or two.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by thl408:
It's an arms race, SF versus LAR. LAR will have Kupp and Robert Woods so the 49ers need to counter. The division in general has very good WRs and it would help for the 49ers to have some good CBs. It's time to have some balance between assets allocated towards the DL and the DBs. Both CB and Edge can use upgrades but if it was an either/or situation, which it's not, I'd choose CB.

I wonder if the team is content with letting Thomas develop, Lenoir replace K'Waun, and Moseley keep his spot. That doesn't sound exciting, just wondering if the team will be patient with their youth at CB.

Clearly, Thomas was beginning to justify their faith in him by the end of the season. Based on what he did last year, he could be pretty good this coming season. Moseley has been OK when healthy. Lenoir for Williams is a question mark for me. We just did not see enough of him to know what he can do.

I would be shocked if they did not use a 3rd on a DB or two.

Seems like 3rd round is their preferred spot for CBs. I expect them to try and get a DE with some combo of their 2nd round pick and/or the pick(s) they get for Jimmy. Then I suspect they'd go with an O-lineman or a S. And then identify a CB in the late 3rd like Thomas last year.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
The number one need is STILL high grade edge opposite bosa. That will make cbs look much better. That will get us back that 2019 vibe.

Then ol ol ol ol.

An impact safety would be nice not a need.

Not really. What if it's a game that the pass rush isn't getting home? We need guys who can cover. What if the refs aren't calling holding? you ok letting another team complete a 3rd and 15 b/c your db's mess up the coverage? Not me.

A quality speed rush opposite bosa will be catastrophic for opponents. That will leave one guard and one center 1v1 on armstead/jones/givens/kinlaw if healthy. It will literally double our pressures and add at least 5 sacks.

Huge difference if we find the right guy.

Eff DE/ER. The NFL has proven they'll ensure our pass rush is held 24-7 especially in the playoffs to ensure the entertainment level is at a high level. Why fight it?

As long as we're #1 in run defense and we keep the rotation going, we'll be fine.

This draft should be all OL and Secondary. Mack is 47 years old, Brunskill is a backup T, McGlinchey had a career threatening injury, Banks couldn't beat Brunskill out, Moore got benched, Skule, McKivitz, Compton, etc. Bleh.

Thomas showed growth...until the Rams just went after him for 255 yards between Kupp/OBJ.

OL and the secondary were the two biggest areas of why we lost. QB has already been addressed.

Let's get Kittle, Juice and the Arby's back out in routes. Let's get back to playing some man with at least one lockdown CB and some actual play makers in the backend.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The ANSWERS !!

Own 2nd (61) - Cam Thomas; DE - SDST
Own 3rd (93) - Leon O'Neal; SS - Tex AM
Comp 3rd (McDaniel) - Verone McKinley III; FS - Oregon
Own 4th (132) - Matt Araiza; P - SDST
Own 5th (171) - Sevyn Banks; CB - Ohio St
Broncos' 6th (for LB Jonas Griffith) - Jesse Matthews; WR - SDST
Comp 7th - Max Borghi; RB - Wash State
Comp 7th - Dohnovan West; OC - Az State
Comp 7th - Jalyn Armour Davis; CB - Alabama

Every year your remind everyone how glad we are you're not the GM.

why don't you share your early picks?

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The ANSWERS !!

Own 2nd (61) - Cam Thomas; DE - SDST
Own 3rd (93) - Leon O'Neal; SS - Tex AM
Comp 3rd (McDaniel) - Verone McKinley III; FS - Oregon
Own 4th (132) - Matt Araiza; P - SDST
Own 5th (171) - Sevyn Banks; CB - Ohio St
Broncos' 6th (for LB Jonas Griffith) - Jesse Matthews; WR - SDST
Comp 7th - Max Borghi; RB - Wash State
Comp 7th - Dohnovan West; OC - Az State
Comp 7th - Jalyn Armour Davis; CB - Alabama

One low 7th round pick on a Center? Not much help for the O line. And why spend a 4th rounder on a punter?

Doing this early mock, I really wanted to focus more on the D side of the ball.. we have a young QB and we'll need a very talented D that should be ahead of our offense while Baby Face Lance is learning..

It's hard to imagine having a young QB always having to play from behind and/or catch up football..

The Catch was the catch, but I always thought that ERIC WRIGHT's horse collar tackle on Drew Pearson should be part of that game..

w/o The Young & The Restless Secondary, no win on the 49ers that year..

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The ANSWERS !!

Own 2nd (61) - Cam Thomas; DE - SDST
Own 3rd (93) - Leon O'Neal; SS - Tex AM
Comp 3rd (McDaniel) - Verone McKinley III; FS - Oregon
Own 4th (132) - Matt Araiza; P - SDST
Own 5th (171) - Sevyn Banks; CB - Ohio St
Broncos' 6th (for LB Jonas Griffith) - Jesse Matthews; WR - SDST
Comp 7th - Max Borghi; RB - Wash State
Comp 7th - Dohnovan West; OC - Az State
Comp 7th - Jalyn Armour Davis; CB - Alabama

One low 7th round pick on a Center? Not much help for the O line. And why spend a 4th rounder on a punter?

also 2 S is kinda a ?

THE two safeties I have here, I think they improve who we have already...

Originally posted by NCommand:
Eff DE/ER. The NFL has proven they'll ensure our pass rush is held 24-7 especially in the playoffs to ensure the entertainment level is at a high level. Why fight it?

As long as we're #1 in run defense and we keep the rotation going, we'll be fine.

This draft should be all OL and Secondary. Mack is 47 years old, Brunskill is a backup T, McGlinchey had a career threatening injury, Banks couldn't beat Brunskill out, Moore got benched, Skule, McKivitz, Compton, etc. Bleh.

Thomas showed growth...until the Rams just went after him for 255 yards between Kupp/OBJ.

OL and the secondary were the two biggest areas of why we lost. QB has already been addressed.

Let's get Kittle, Juice and the Arby's back out in routes. Let's get back to playing some man with at least one lockdown CB and some actual play makers in the backend.

Thomas gave up all 255? Lol

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The ANSWERS !!

Own 2nd (61) - Cam Thomas; DE - SDST
Own 3rd (93) - Leon O'Neal; SS - Tex AM
Comp 3rd (McDaniel) - Verone McKinley III; FS - Oregon
Own 4th (132) - Matt Araiza; P - SDST
Own 5th (171) - Sevyn Banks; CB - Ohio St
Broncos' 6th (for LB Jonas Griffith) - Jesse Matthews; WR - SDST
Comp 7th - Max Borghi; RB - Wash State
Comp 7th - Dohnovan West; OC - Az State
Comp 7th - Jalyn Armour Davis; CB - Alabama

Every year your remind everyone how glad we are you're not the GM.

And we think Baalke is bad

uhhmm.... ain't you a believer of AA???

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The ANSWERS !!

Own 2nd (61) - Cam Thomas; DE - SDST
Own 3rd (93) - Leon O'Neal; SS - Tex AM
Comp 3rd (McDaniel) - Verone McKinley III; FS - Oregon
Own 4th (132) - Matt Araiza; P - SDST
Own 5th (171) - Sevyn Banks; CB - Ohio St
Broncos' 6th (for LB Jonas Griffith) - Jesse Matthews; WR - SDST
Comp 7th - Max Borghi; RB - Wash State
Comp 7th - Dohnovan West; OC - Az State
Comp 7th - Jalyn Armour Davis; CB - Alabama

So you were completely ok with OL play? Folks there's a reason why Kittle has been relatively quiet this year; he was doing a LOT more blocking to cover for Compton who's playing out of place at tackle. That depth is horrible if we're asking a OG to play tackle. It's like thinking a secondary is okay by asking safeties to exclusively play corner.

You NAILED it NinerGM!

our QB is young, he'll need a lot of help on the D while developing... our OL, they are capable at the moment.. it's not like TREY is going to be an awesome passer already... I just rather build a D while the offense is developing... once the D is set, then we can plug in the offense easier..

Regardless of my opinion on the matter, our FO deprioritizes DBs, specifically CBs below most of the league. I can't imagine we'd trade/draft a major starter at CB, I suspect they'd try and bring back Verrett cheap and go with Moseley, Thomas, Lenoir, mid-round CB, and medium-level FA CB.

I suspect they'd prioritize speed rusher DE (replace Ford) via the draft and multiple O-line positions via both draft and FA.

Then some lower draft picks on RB, WR (PR/KR), and depth.

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Not really. What if it's a game that the pass rush isn't getting home? We need guys who can cover. What if the refs aren't calling holding? you ok letting another team complete a 3rd and 15 b/c your db's mess up the coverage? Not me.

This is my thought process as well. Holding seems to be called much less (and has been like this for some time) during the playoffs. I want a solid DE, but I think going into next season with what the 49ers have at DB is risky. It's far too thin. Give me OL for Lance (and, because it needs upgrading regardless) and then a DB. That doesn't mean I think the 49ers should neglect DE, just don't neglect DB in favor of DE.

Corners are for more important to our future success imo. We can find ways to manufacture pressure.

I could not agree more we need to be able to cover better when the pressure just doesn't get there.

All of this! Refs don't call rape on our DL so it's up to coverage. Plus there are so many good-elite wrs we play against.

Bad corner coverage cost us 2 SBs. Also, this NFCCG. We absolutely need a very very good cb.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Not really. What if it's a game that the pass rush isn't getting home? We need guys who can cover. What if the refs aren't calling holding? you ok letting another team complete a 3rd and 15 b/c your db's mess up the coverage? Not me.

This is my thought process as well. Holding seems to be called much less (and has been like this for some time) during the playoffs. I want a solid DE, but I think going into next season with what the 49ers have at DB is risky. It's far too thin. Give me OL for Lance (and, because it needs upgrading regardless) and then a DB. That doesn't mean I think the 49ers should neglect DE, just don't neglect DB in favor of DE.

Corners are for more important to our future success imo. We can find ways to manufacture pressure.

I could not agree more we need to be able to cover better when the pressure just doesn't get there.

All of this! Refs don't call rape on our DL so it's up to coverage. Plus there are so many good-elite wrs we play against.

Bad corner coverage cost us 2 SBs. Also, this NFCCG. We absolutely need a very very good cb.

Yeah, I'm with guap - we need better corner play. I like Moseley and Thomas, but if we can do better we've got to upgrade.