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Feb 7, 2022 at 4:39 PM

Niners99
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Originally posted by NIMV4683:
Kyle and Lynch must move ASAP to hire him.

#Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy's contract is expiring, per sources.

So after getting passed over for head coaching opportunities again, Bieniemy could either return to Kansas City or be a hot free-agent OC target elsewhere.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) February 7, 2022

The problem is you don't know how good of an OC he really is. Mahomes is out there throwing no look passes and ad libbing stuff after plays break down, so for all we know Bieniemy is mediocre.

Feb 7, 2022 at 4:39 PM

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LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:
If Bobby Turner decides to walk, I'd keep Anthony in a game planning role with Kyle and Slowik, and see if Tom Rathman still has an itch to coach for the RB coach position.

See if Frank Gore is interested.

This. Bring him in now as an assistant RB coach if Turner decides to go another year. We can do the one day contract so he can officially retire and everything.

Why? Just because he was a great RB does not mean that would translate well to coaching. Love him to death, but Frank doesn't strike me as the intellectual type.

Because he has a crazy high football IQ. But someone posted earlier Frank would rather be in scouting, which I'm perfectly fine with as well.

Feb 7, 2022 at 4:42 PM

#48

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Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by NIMV4683:
Kyle and Lynch must move ASAP to hire him.

#Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy's contract is expiring, per sources.

So after getting passed over for head coaching opportunities again, Bieniemy could either return to Kansas City or be a hot free-agent OC target elsewhere.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) February 7, 2022

The problem is you don't know how good of an OC he really is. Mahomes is out there throwing no look passes and ad libbing stuff after plays break down, so for all we know Bieniemy is mediocre.

We'll get a chance to find out. Personally, I think it would be to his benefit to leave KC. Show his stuff in another system. I remember a line from the Bill Walsh A Football life where he was quoted as saying "I can't stay here, I have to leave and see if my system can work elsewhere where I get the credit." Kyle didn't get credit for being a bright offensive mind until he got to Atlanta, despite Matt Shaub and Andre Johnson's best years coming under him, as well as RG3's great rookie year.

Feb 7, 2022 at 4:45 PM

#49

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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:
If Bobby Turner decides to walk, I'd keep Anthony in a game planning role with Kyle and Slowik, and see if Tom Rathman still has an itch to coach for the RB coach position.

See if Frank Gore is interested.

This. Bring him in now as an assistant RB coach if Turner decides to go another year. We can do the one day contract so he can officially retire and everything.

Why? Just because he was a great RB does not mean that would translate well to coaching. Love him to death, but Frank doesn't strike me as the intellectual type.

Because he has a crazy high football IQ. But someone posted earlier Frank would rather be in scouting, which I'm perfectly fine with as well.

Frank talks about it here:

https://www.colts.com/video/frank-gore-future-scout-17065759

He's said several times that he considers the 49ers his team and that he would love to help us win it all.

I say Lynch better offer him some role scouting RBs.

Feb 7, 2022 at 4:48 PM

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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
We'll get a chance to find out. Personally, I think it would be to his benefit to leave KC. Show his stuff in another system. I remember a line from the Bill Walsh A Football life where he was quoted as saying "I can't stay here, I have to leave and see if my system can work elsewhere where I get the credit." Kyle didn't get credit for being a bright offensive mind until he got to Atlanta, despite Matt Shaub and Andre Johnson's best years coming under him, as well as RG3's great rookie year.

Right but its not going to benefit him all that much to go somewhere else and hold the clipboard for another offensive coach that calls their own plays.

He needs to go somewhere that they'll let him run the whole show on offense and call the plays. The Houston job might be a good landing spot for him.

Feb 7, 2022 at 4:49 PM

#51

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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Oh absolutely. I think Gore would be great in scouting. I wouldn't mind him hand picking our RBs for the next 15 years.

I'd like to see them go and bring in a bunch of young scouts and low level assistant coaches to develop over time because if McDaniel works out and Ryans gets a HC job next year, this entire staff will continue to be aggressively poached.

Feb 7, 2022 at 4:59 PM

#52

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Talking ST Coord...either Judge or the guy in Seattle would be upgrades over Hightower. We've not been so hot on ST's in recent years...time to up the ante and get things going.

Feb 7, 2022 at 5:01 PM

#53

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So we need a ST coach, TE coach, and if we want a OC?

Feb 7, 2022 at 5:03 PM

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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Talking ST Coord...either Judge or the guy in Seattle would be upgrades over Hightower. We've not been so hot on ST's in recent years...time to up the ante and get things going.

Judge may be in over his head as a HC but according to the ratings his ST is pretty good. I've never cared so much about a ST coach until this year. I guess if you have a bad one it sticks out huh.

Feb 7, 2022 at 5:04 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
We'll get a chance to find out. Personally, I think it would be to his benefit to leave KC. Show his stuff in another system. I remember a line from the Bill Walsh A Football life where he was quoted as saying "I can't stay here, I have to leave and see if my system can work elsewhere where I get the credit." Kyle didn't get credit for being a bright offensive mind until he got to Atlanta, despite Matt Shaub and Andre Johnson's best years coming under him, as well as RG3's great rookie year.

Right but its not going to benefit him all that much to go somewhere else and hold the clipboard for another offensive coach that calls their own plays.

He needs to go somewhere that they'll let him run the whole show on offense and call the plays. The Houston job might be a good landing spot for him.

Houston already promoted Pep Hamilton as OC.

Pep Hamilton promoted to offensive coordinator, retained Frank Ross as special-teams coordinator
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) February 8, 2022

Feb 7, 2022 at 5:08 PM

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Originally posted by NIMV4683:
Houston already promoted Pep Hamilton as OC.

Pep Hamilton promoted to offensive coordinator, retained Frank Ross as special-teams coordinator
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) February 8, 2022

I always like Pep Hamilton. Mills had a good season considering his situation. Honestly looking at the coaching staff and caserio as GM I wouldn't hate seeing Jimmy in Houston. I just hope their owner let's the guys do their job and not his nutcase religious earpiece in easterby.

Feb 7, 2022 at 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
We'll get a chance to find out. Personally, I think it would be to his benefit to leave KC. Show his stuff in another system. I remember a line from the Bill Walsh A Football life where he was quoted as saying "I can't stay here, I have to leave and see if my system can work elsewhere where I get the credit." Kyle didn't get credit for being a bright offensive mind until he got to Atlanta, despite Matt Shaub and Andre Johnson's best years coming under him, as well as RG3's great rookie year.

Right but its not going to benefit him all that much to go somewhere else and hold the clipboard for another offensive coach that calls their own plays.

He needs to go somewhere that they'll let him run the whole show on offense and call the plays. The Houston job might be a good landing spot for him.

That's exactly what I mean. It has to be known that he is the one putting the offensive game plans together, calling the plays, etc. I honestly would've left after 2020. Not a football coach, but I've been in the position where I knew I was the guy at my job and wasn't getting my due. I left and it turned out much better.

Feb 7, 2022 at 5:12 PM

#58

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Originally posted by gold49digger:

Originally posted by NIMV4683:
Houston already promoted Pep Hamilton as OC.

Pep Hamilton promoted to offensive coordinator, retained Frank Ross as special-teams coordinator
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) February 8, 2022

I always like Pep Hamilton. Mills had a good season considering his situation. Honestly looking at the coaching staff and caserio as GM I wouldn't hate seeing Jimmy in Houston. I just hope their owner let's the guys do their job and not his nutcase religious earpiece in easterby.

Crazy thing is, Houston might have a solid staff in place. I really think the Culley firing was about getting Brian Flores. Culley wasn't fired immediately. Strange things going on with that franchise. I am SOOOO glad it's not us.

Feb 7, 2022 at 5:29 PM

#59

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Originally posted by NIMV4683:
Kyle and Lynch must move ASAP to hire him.

#Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy's contract is expiring, per sources.

So after getting passed over for head coaching opportunities again, Bieniemy could either return to Kansas City or be a hot free-agent OC target elsewhere.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) February 7, 2022

Wow, that's a ringing endorsement. Why wouldn't KC want him anymore?

Feb 7, 2022 at 5:32 PM

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Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Wow, that's a ringing endorsement. Why wouldn't KC want him anymore?

Chiefs fans were more upset about Kafka leaving to be the Giants OC than the possibility that Bieniemy might leave. He's pretty much a glorified RB coach with no well defined role beyond that and relaying Reid's calls to the QB the way Geep Chryst used to do for Harbaugh.