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Originally posted by NCommand:
1. I watch 49er games and have seen the run game expand from predominantly OZ to one of the expansive run game in the NFL
2. Because Juice straight up explained his role as a running game coordinator
3. Kyle promoted him

What exactly did you think he was doing here all this time? LOL

Lynch confirmed with Maiocco the massive coaching turnover and the real reason they aren't in Indy is because KYLE is training all the new coaches right now instead.

So yes, this was my concern realized.

In a year where I want Kyle free to focus on Trey, he's already working O.T. just to get his staff hired and up to speed. Hopefully they'll be great though.

1. They ran more IZ/power dating back to 2019. Who they hell is saying that is JUST because of McDainels? Has he NOT be with kyle everywhere? Why wasn't in more multiple elsewhere (like you're saying)? Why the hell is is JUST him that made the run game more dimensional? I'll tell you why because he's not the head coach and in control of the offense. Kyle is and like he has said everyone plays a part in all of it. Not just one guy. Kyle > McDaniels and it's not close.

juice talked up Mike like every damn player does when they leave. Same s**t with Saleh and players on defense….you had everyone in here crying about him leaving. If I remember correctly you thought the D was gonna go downhill with out him. Next man up. Joe Staley said kyle is the most creative play caller he's ever been around…he didn't say McDainels was.

kyle promoted him because he deserved it. He deserved a raise that comes with it and SF wanted to make sure he wasn't just bouncing to be an OC somewhere else. Add OC to the resume to help further his career for his bud.

Kyle is the head coach. He is not free to train Lance or whatever you think he's suppose to do. They will hire a QB coach and they will have a plethora of assistants where that's part of their job. Kyle is in charge of 90 players and a dozen coaches. Lance has to take the bull by the horns and work on his s**t right now…it isn't just a HC/QB thing.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree with everybody here. I'll just add that Papa Shanahan can step in (if Kyle calls him) to help get the newbie 49er coaches up to speed in the run game and whatever else they need for 2022.

True true. Lynch also confirmed too that Turner will still help scout where he can but it won't be at the volume like normal.

The new coaching staff is sitting in on zoom interviews with prospects right now. Lynch said it's not the same as in-person but it still works.

PS: All the new hires will be announced early next week.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
1. I watch 49er games and have seen the run game expand from predominantly OZ to one of the expansive run game in the NFL
2. Because Juice straight up explained his role as a running game coordinator
3. Kyle promoted him

What exactly did you think he was doing here all this time? LOL

Lynch confirmed with Maiocco the massive coaching turnover and the real reason they aren't in Indy is because KYLE is training all the new coaches right now instead.

So yes, this was my concern realized.

In a year where I want Kyle free to focus on Trey, he's already working O.T. just to get his staff hired and up to speed. Hopefully they'll be great though.

1. They ran more IZ/power dating back to 2019. Who they hell is saying that is JUST because of McDainels? Has he NOT be with kyle everywhere? Why wasn't in more multiple elsewhere? Why the hell is is JUST him that made the run game more dimensional? I'll tell you why because he's not the head coach and in control of the offense. Kyle is and like HE has said everyone plays a part in all of it. Not just one guy.

juice talked up Mike like every damn player does when they leave. Same s**t with Saleh and players on defense….you had everyone in here crying about him leaving. If I remember correctly you thought the D was gonna go downhill with out him. Next man up.

kyle promoted him because he deserved it. He deserved a raise that comes with it and SF wanted to make sure he wasn't just bouncing to be an OC somewhere else. Add OC to the resume to help further his career for his bud.

Kyle is the head coach. He is not free to train Lance or whatever you think he's suppose to do. They will hire a QB coach and they will have a plethora of assistants where that's their job. Kyle is in charge of 90 players and a dozen coaches. Lance has to take the Bull by the horns and work on his s**t right now…it isn't just a HC thing there.

Lord. OK.

You're right...losing 11 coaches is no big deal and no stress on Kyle at all.

Juice simply explained his role. Hell, his title alone explains his role. LOL

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree with everybody here. I'll just add that Papa Shanahan can step in (if Kyle calls him) to help get the newbie 49er coaches up to speed in the run game and whatever else they need for 2022.

True true. Lynch also confirmed too that Turner will still help scout where he can but it won't be at the volume like normal.

The new coaching staff is sitting in on zoom interviews with prospects right now. Lynch said it's not the same as in-person but it still works.

PS: All the new hires will be announced early next week.

Knowing Bob Turner, he'll be doing even more film work. If it's a knee issue, he'll want to relax after a rehab session. I remember Sid Gilman saying watching philm is better than s*x.

I think with regards to the draft and scouting, the new staff probably won't have as much input as the more experienced staff. I've done a lot of Zoom meeting myself, and while you don't get that in person view of body language and demeanor, you do get (I would say) 80% of what you need in terms of attitude, character, and personality.

I can't wait to see who's our next minority HC hire or Front Office hire that will get us our next extra day two picks.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lord. OK.

You're right...losing 11 coaches is no big deal and no stress on Kyle at all.

Juice simply explained his role. Hell, his title alone explains his role. LOL

Never once said it wasn't a big deal....I'm not going off about a "run game coordinator" being the architect of a run game that's literally been around for decades and developed from the Shanahans.

I'm not the one saying OMG we lost 11 coaches in one breath, then poo pooing on quality control/assistants and what they do in another. You don't even know who's taken over what role yet because they haven't even announced the new hires and position changes officially.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
1. I watch 49er games and have seen the run game expand from predominantly OZ to one of the expansive run game in the NFL
2. Because Juice straight up explained his role as a running game coordinator
3. Kyle promoted him

What exactly did you think he was doing here all this time? LOL

Lynch confirmed with Maiocco the massive coaching turnover and the real reason they aren't in Indy is because KYLE is training all the new coaches right now instead.

So yes, this was my concern realized.

In a year where I want Kyle free to focus on Trey, he's already working O.T. just to get his staff hired and up to speed. Hopefully they'll be great though.

1. They ran more IZ/power dating back to 2019. Who they hell is saying that is JUST because of McDainels? Has he NOT be with kyle everywhere? Why wasn't in more multiple elsewhere? Why the hell is is JUST him that made the run game more dimensional? I'll tell you why because he's not the head coach and in control of the offense. Kyle is and like HE has said everyone plays a part in all of it. Not just one guy.

juice talked up Mike like every damn player does when they leave. Same s**t with Saleh and players on defense….you had everyone in here crying about him leaving. If I remember correctly you thought the D was gonna go downhill with out him. Next man up.

kyle promoted him because he deserved it. He deserved a raise that comes with it and SF wanted to make sure he wasn't just bouncing to be an OC somewhere else. Add OC to the resume to help further his career for his bud.

Kyle is the head coach. He is not free to train Lance or whatever you think he's suppose to do. They will hire a QB coach and they will have a plethora of assistants where that's their job. Kyle is in charge of 90 players and a dozen coaches. Lance has to take the Bull by the horns and work on his s**t right now…it isn't just a HC thing there.

Lord. OK.

You're right...losing 11 coaches is no big deal and no stress on Kyle at all.

Juice simply explained his role. Hell, his title alone explains his role. LOL

Great points on both sides of the argument! I think Kyle would rather have kept McDaniels than lose him, and losing 11 coaches, does mean that Kyle now can't go to the Combine and have a first hand look at all the draft prospects.

Personally, I think the Trey Era demands some coaching changes - his skill set is so different from Jimmy's that I think having New coaches coming in that didn't have the old coaches habits and mindsets regarding a not so mobile QB, is more of a positive than a negative. For Example, I think losing Jon Embree was intentional. I think Kyle and Mike talked and basically said Kyle will give Jon to Mike. Downgrading Jon to 60% of his salary was one way of indicating that Kyle wanted him to go with Mike. The TE coach, I think is very central to Kyle's offense and moving Jon out is one indication that Kyle might be re-designing the whole TE position (as well as the entire scheme) to fit Trey Lance. (for example - treating the TE as more of a WR vs as a blocking OLineman) due to Trey's mobility. Steve Young killed the NFL with Brent Jones and Brent couldn't block very well.

As of right now Kyle has Forester, and they do have a WR, TE coach. The only thing missing is that QB coach, (RB coach is basically Lynn right now) so they have all the coaching they need in the offseason for player development and scouting evaluations. I don't really think they need a QB coach immediately considering Kyle will be the one calling that in (most likely) free agency vs the draft. Personally I'm hoping John Beck becomes QB coach for Trey. We shall see.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Great points on both sides of the argument! I think Kyle would rather have kept McDaniels than lose him, and losing 11 coaches, does mean that Kyle now can't go to the Combine and have a first hand look at all the draft prospects.

Personally, I think the Trey Era demands some coaching changes - his skill set is so different from Jimmy's that I think having New coaches coming in that didn't have the old coaches habits and mindsets regarding a not so mobile QB, is more of a positive than a negative. For Example, I think losing Jon Embree was intentional. I think Kyle and Mike talked and basically said Kyle will give Jon to Mike. Downgrading Jon to 60% of his salary was one way of indicating that Kyle wanted him to go with Mike. The TE coach, I think is very central to Kyle's offense and moving Jon out is one indication that Kyle might be re-designing the whole TE position (as well as the entire scheme) to fit Trey Lance. (for example - treating the TE as more of a WR vs as a blocking OLineman) due to Trey's mobility. Steve Young killed the NFL with Brent Jones and Brent couldn't block very well.

As of right now Kyle has Forester, and they do have a WR, TE coach. The only thing missing is that QB coach, (RB coach is basically Lynn right now) so they have all the coaching they need in the offseason for player development and scouting evaluations. I don't really think they need a QB coach immediately considering Kyle will be the one calling that in (most likely) free agency vs the draft. Personally I'm hoping John Beck becomes QB coach for Trey. We shall see.

Of course Kyle doesn't want to lose McDaniels or any coach that they currently had under contract. But when you're good at developing coaches they go off and get promotions. That's a good thing, time for some of the next crop of coaches to take on bigger roles.

Kyle himself has said he hates going to the combine and doesn't see the value in it outside of doing in-person interviews. Now they have zoom and can bring guys in for those interviews just as well. There was half a dozen coaching staffs that didn't go including LA.

Embree's contract was up, they wanted to bring in Lynn one because he's a damn good coach and two because they knew Bobby was gonna be gone this yr. Not many HCs go back to being just a position coach, make him AHC (Embree's old title) and have him do a lot of what Bobby did. IMO they would have loved to have Embree back as just a TE coach. At this point in his career he wasn't gonna be paid a TE coach salary. So a new contract wasn't happening.

Forester will also take on some of the run game stuff (Barrows stated it). So you got two great minds there in Forester/Lynn plus Kyle. They need some new assistants and promotions within will be official soon according to Lynch.

IMO the biggest position coach to worry about is the QB coach...I agree, I hope it's Beck and it would make all the sense in the world. Not sure how all that works with Lance at his 3DQB camp.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Great points on both sides of the argument! I think Kyle would rather have kept McDaniels than lose him, and losing 11 coaches, does mean that Kyle now can't go to the Combine and have a first hand look at all the draft prospects.

Personally, I think the Trey Era demands some coaching changes - his skill set is so different from Jimmy's that I think having New coaches coming in that didn't have the old coaches habits and mindsets regarding a not so mobile QB, is more of a positive than a negative. For Example, I think losing Jon Embree was intentional. I think Kyle and Mike talked and basically said Kyle will give Jon to Mike. Downgrading Jon to 60% of his salary was one way of indicating that Kyle wanted him to go with Mike. The TE coach, I think is very central to Kyle's offense and moving Jon out is one indication that Kyle might be re-designing the whole TE position (as well as the entire scheme) to fit Trey Lance. (for example - treating the TE as more of a WR vs as a blocking OLineman) due to Trey's mobility. Steve Young killed the NFL with Brent Jones and Brent couldn't block very well.

As of right now Kyle has Forester, and they do have a WR, TE coach. The only thing missing is that QB coach, (RB coach is basically Lynn right now) so they have all the coaching they need in the offseason for player development and scouting evaluations. I don't really think they need a QB coach immediately considering Kyle will be the one calling that in (most likely) free agency vs the draft. Personally I'm hoping John Beck becomes QB coach for Trey. We shall see.

Of course Kyle doesn't want to lose McDaniels or any coach that they currently had under contract. But when you're good at developing coaches they go off and get promotions. That's a good thing, time for some of the next crop of coaches to take on bigger roles.

Kyle himself has said he hates going to the combine and doesn't see the value in it outside of doing in-person interviews. Now they have zoom and can bring guys in for those interviews just as well. There was half a dozen coaching staffs that didn't go including LA.

Embree's contract was up, they wanted to bring in Lynn one because he's a damn good coach and two because they knew Bobby was gonna be gone this yr. Not many HCs go back to being just a position coach, make him AHC (Embree's old title) and have him do a lot of what Bobby did. IMO they would have loved to have Embree back as just a TE coach. At this point in his career he wasn't gonna be paid a TE coach salary. So a new contract wasn't happening.

Forester will also take on some of the run game stuff (Barrows stated it). So you got two great minds there in Forester/Lynn plus Kyle. They need some new assistants and promotions within will be official soon according to Lynch.

IMO the biggest position coach to worry about is the QB coach...I agree, I hope it's Beck and it would make all the sense in the world. Not sure how all that works with Lance at his 3DQB camp.

Beck would be nice, but once he became a team employee any contact with Trey would have to cease until the offseason program in April, and no field work until May per the CBA. That might be a sign that we go another direction with that position, as it might accelerate Trey's development working with Beck the two and a half months until then. I think we need to be ready for the position to go to Slowik or someone else, either way we'll find out next week.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
1. I watch 49er games and have seen the run game expand from predominantly OZ to one of the expansive run game in the NFL
2. Because Juice straight up explained his role as a running game coordinator
3. Kyle promoted him

What exactly did you think he was doing here all this time? LOL

Lynch confirmed with Maiocco the massive coaching turnover and the real reason they aren't in Indy is because KYLE is training all the new coaches right now instead.

So yes, this was my concern realized.

In a year where I want Kyle free to focus on Trey, he's already working O.T. just to get his staff hired and up to speed. Hopefully they'll be great though.

1. They ran more IZ/power dating back to 2019. Who they hell is saying that is JUST because of McDainels? Has he NOT be with kyle everywhere? Why wasn't in more multiple elsewhere? Why the hell is is JUST him that made the run game more dimensional? I'll tell you why because he's not the head coach and in control of the offense. Kyle is and like HE has said everyone plays a part in all of it. Not just one guy.

juice talked up Mike like every damn player does when they leave. Same s**t with Saleh and players on defense….you had everyone in here crying about him leaving. If I remember correctly you thought the D was gonna go downhill with out him. Next man up.

kyle promoted him because he deserved it. He deserved a raise that comes with it and SF wanted to make sure he wasn't just bouncing to be an OC somewhere else. Add OC to the resume to help further his career for his bud.

Kyle is the head coach. He is not free to train Lance or whatever you think he's suppose to do. They will hire a QB coach and they will have a plethora of assistants where that's their job. Kyle is in charge of 90 players and a dozen coaches. Lance has to take the Bull by the horns and work on his s**t right now…it isn't just a HC thing there.

Lord. OK.

You're right...losing 11 coaches is no big deal and no stress on Kyle at all.

Juice simply explained his role. Hell, his title alone explains his role. LOL

Great points on both sides of the argument! I think Kyle would rather have kept McDaniels than lose him, and losing 11 coaches, does mean that Kyle now can't go to the Combine and have a first hand look at all the draft prospects.

Personally, I think the Trey Era demands some coaching changes - his skill set is so different from Jimmy's that I think having New coaches coming in that didn't have the old coaches habits and mindsets regarding a not so mobile QB, is more of a positive than a negative. For Example, I think losing Jon Embree was intentional. I think Kyle and Mike talked and basically said Kyle will give Jon to Mike. Downgrading Jon to 60% of his salary was one way of indicating that Kyle wanted him to go with Mike. The TE coach, I think is very central to Kyle's offense and moving Jon out is one indication that Kyle might be re-designing the whole TE position (as well as the entire scheme) to fit Trey Lance. (for example - treating the TE as more of a WR vs as a blocking OLineman) due to Trey's mobility. Steve Young killed the NFL with Brent Jones and Brent couldn't block very well.

As of right now Kyle has Forester, and they do have a WR, TE coach. The only thing missing is that QB coach, (RB coach is basically Lynn right now) so they have all the coaching they need in the offseason for player development and scouting evaluations. I don't really think they need a QB coach immediately considering Kyle will be the one calling that in (most likely) free agency vs the draft. Personally I'm hoping John Beck becomes QB coach for Trey. We shall see.

Great post. Yeah, John kind of alluded to a couple of the losses, being team decisions. I think we can guess who those two are.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lord. OK.

You're right...losing 11 coaches is no big deal and no stress on Kyle at all.

Juice simply explained his role. Hell, his title alone explains his role. LOL

Never once said it wasn't a big deal....I'm not going off about a "run game coordinator" being the architect of a run game that's literally been around for decades and developed from the Shanahans.

I'm not the one saying OMG we lost 11 coaches in one breath, then poo pooing on quality control/assistants and what they do in another. You don't even know who's taken over what role yet because they haven't even announced the new hires and position changes officially.

Funny how the great minimizer totally ignores the fact that Kyle and his staff right now aren't in Indy because he has to train an entire new staff and that staff isn't there to evaluate players personally.

In one breathe, that was my concern all along...realized...now Kyle will be the architect of our CURRENT running game, coaching up a whole new staff and ushering in his own personal hand picked QB.

That's a lot.

That doesn't mean things won't work out...it just means Kyle is already being stretched.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lord. OK.

You're right...losing 11 coaches is no big deal and no stress on Kyle at all.

Juice simply explained his role. Hell, his title alone explains his role. LOL

Never once said it wasn't a big deal....I'm not going off about a "run game coordinator" being the architect of a run game that's literally been around for decades and developed from the Shanahans.

I'm not the one saying OMG we lost 11 coaches in one breath, then poo pooing on quality control/assistants and what they do in another. You don't even know who's taken over what role yet because they haven't even announced the new hires and position changes officially.

Funny how the great minimizer totally ignores the fact that Kyle and his staff right now aren't in Indy because he has to train an entire new staff and that staff isn't there to evaluate players personally.

In one breathe, that was my concern all along...realized...now Kyle will be the architect of our CURRENT running game, coaching up a whole new staff and ushering in his own personal hand picked QB.

That's a lot.

That doesn't mean things won't work out...it just means Kyle is already being stretched.

why doesnt he promote someone on his staff on the offensive side and bring in some up and comer for the support role. its not like there isnt some quality control coach out there who wouldnt be a decent fill in for the lower end coaches on offense.

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lord. OK.

You're right...losing 11 coaches is no big deal and no stress on Kyle at all.

Juice simply explained his role. Hell, his title alone explains his role. LOL

Never once said it wasn't a big deal....I'm not going off about a "run game coordinator" being the architect of a run game that's literally been around for decades and developed from the Shanahans.

I'm not the one saying OMG we lost 11 coaches in one breath, then poo pooing on quality control/assistants and what they do in another. You don't even know who's taken over what role yet because they haven't even announced the new hires and position changes officially.

Funny how the great minimizer totally ignores the fact that Kyle and his staff right now aren't in Indy because he has to train an entire new staff and that staff isn't there to evaluate players personally.

In one breathe, that was my concern all along...realized...now Kyle will be the architect of our CURRENT running game, coaching up a whole new staff and ushering in his own personal hand picked QB.

That's a lot.

That doesn't mean things won't work out...it just means Kyle is already being stretched.

why doesnt he promote someone on his staff on the offensive side and bring in some up and comer for the support role. its not like there isnt some quality control coach out there who wouldnt be a decent fill in for the lower end coaches on offense.

We know Kyle. He tries to do everything. Everything. And I think he has a tendency to overextend himself. I genuinely think that's why they brought in Lynn to help take a load off him and be that ex-HC he already respects and can be a sounding board with...then Kyle lost 11 coaches. I don't think that was, obviously, expected.

He seems (thus far) to be doing the right thing. He's built up the QC's on the defensive side...4 already (usually keeps just two). He's promoted two more QC's to position coaches.

I'm excited to see the new pool of coaches they brought in. Excited to hear about Turner still consulting and coming back next year.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Funny how the great minimizer totally ignores the fact that Kyle and his staff right now aren't in Indy because he has to train an entire new staff and that staff isn't there to evaluate players personally.

In one breathe, that was my concern all along...realized...now Kyle will be the architect of our CURRENT running game, coaching up a whole new staff and ushering in his own personal hand picked QB.

That's a lot.

That doesn't mean things won't work out...it just means Kyle is already being stretched.

Lol yeah that's the only reason they're not at the combine...Kyle has stated multiple times that he hates going to the combine and thinks its pointless. He says he can watch all the film he needs and do interviews with them via zoom or in-person at SF.

Wait why are the Rams and a handful of other teams HCs not there? They must be training their coaching staff too SF has all their scouting department there Peters/Lynch doing what they're paid to do...scout the damn players. All those guys get paid to do that, so let them do it.

Kyle has ALWAYS been the architect of this offense, including the running game. How hard is that to grasp? Yes he gave McDainels and others throughout his time as a coach more responsibility in regards to the offense, all coaches do that. But no it wasn't all McDainels. This running game was a thing back when McDainels was farting in bathtubs.

Just like Kyle/McVay/Ryans/Saleh etc they all started out as quality control/assistants...NOW it's the same progression, our quality control/assistants are getting promoted and taking on bigger roles. That's the whole point, much like players develop, your coaching staff develops as well. If you can bring in some dudes from the outside sweet, just because they don't constantly do that doesn't mean we have s**t coaches. Clearly the league thinks they're all pretty damn good.

Guess what being a HC is a lot...you listen to McVay, dude is 36 and burnt out already. That's the job they signed up for. Kyle knows what he can and can't do. He knows who is capable of what and who he trusts to take on more responsibility...let him do his thing and relax

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lord. OK.

You're right...losing 11 coaches is no big deal and no stress on Kyle at all.

Juice simply explained his role. Hell, his title alone explains his role. LOL

Never once said it wasn't a big deal....I'm not going off about a "run game coordinator" being the architect of a run game that's literally been around for decades and developed from the Shanahans.

I'm not the one saying OMG we lost 11 coaches in one breath, then poo pooing on quality control/assistants and what they do in another. You don't even know who's taken over what role yet because they haven't even announced the new hires and position changes officially.

Funny how the great minimizer totally ignores the fact that Kyle and his staff right now aren't in Indy because he has to train an entire new staff and that staff isn't there to evaluate players personally.

In one breathe, that was my concern all along...realized...now Kyle will be the architect of our CURRENT running game, coaching up a whole new staff and ushering in his own personal hand picked QB.

That's a lot.

That doesn't mean things won't work out...it just means Kyle is already being stretched.

why doesnt he promote someone on his staff on the offensive side and bring in some up and comer for the support role. its not like there isnt some quality control coach out there who wouldnt be a decent fill in for the lower end coaches on offense.

We know Kyle. He tries to do everything. Everything. And I think he has a tendency to overextend himself. I genuinely think that's why they brought in Lynn to help take a load off him and be that ex-HC he already respects and can be a sounding board with...then Kyle lost 11 coaches. I don't think that was, obviously, expected.

He seems (thus far) to be doing the right thing. He's built up the QC's on the defensive side...4 already (usually keeps just two). He's promoted two more QC's to position coaches.

I'm excited to see the new pool of coaches they brought in. Excited to hear about Turner still consulting and coming back next year.

Ncommand i posted this a few days ago an its kinda just validated more an more in this thread everyday

the same dudes who think we can survive multiple coaching losses one after another an not suffer performance downgrades are the probably the same dudes who think our team is not more injured than most of the league, and "its just the nfl" "its a rough sport", "this amount of injuries is normal". it all leads back to the same mental block....
denial, denial, denial.

theres this recurring theme of trying to spin losing a ton of important assistants as a somehow good thing. "well that shows shanahan grows a great staff" is their motto. cool thats great. good for him. but thats not the subject, what does that have to do with the fact that that "great staff" is now gone? they think anyone who comes into this building will just automatically be great all over again because well "shanahan". i think some may not realize the coaching staff is a team as well. kyle cant do it all on his own, hes need talented intelligent guys to have their own ideas an make their own good calls. not just anyone he brings in can do that successfully. our success is due to his assistants as well, an how many are now HC's, OCs, DCs an coaches on other teams? if this keeps happening every offseason the other shoe is gonna drop eventually. that could even be this year. look at our losses already. do we currently have a ST coordinator even? s**t almost anyone should be an upgrade over hightower so we should be ok there.

i think the anthony lynn hire is great an im excited for that one. could possibly be an upgrade. but thats all possibilities right now. its ok to admit wev suffered some losses or made some mistakes. theres nothing wrong with being critical of something not favorable happening to our team. but to just try to shine s**t an spin one thing into something it is not is the same problem as our injury problem deniers...

denial, denial, denial.

Originally posted by stefano89:
Ncommand i posted this a few days ago an its kinda just validated more an more in this thread everyday

the same dudes who think we can survive multiple coaching losses one after another an not suffer performance downgrades are the probably the same dudes who think our team is not more injured than most of the league, and "its just the nfl" "its a rough sport", "this amount of injuries is normal". it all leads back to the same mental block....
denial, denial, denial.

theres this recurring theme of trying to spin losing a ton of important assistants as a somehow good thing. "well that shows shanahan grows a great staff" is their motto. cool thats great. good for him. but thats not the subject, what does that have to do with the fact that that "great staff" is now gone? they think anyone who comes into this building will just automatically be great all over again because well "shanahan". i think some may not realize the coaching staff is a team as well. kyle cant do it all on his own, hes need talented intelligent guys to have their own ideas an make their own good calls. not just anyone he brings in can do that successfully. our success is due to his assistants as well, an how many are now HC's, OCs, DCs an coaches on other teams? if this keeps happening every offseason the other shoe is gonna drop eventually. that could even be this year. look at our losses already. do we currently have a ST coordinator even? s**t almost anyone should be an upgrade over hightower so we should be ok there.

i think the anthony lynn hire is great an im excited for that one. could possibly be an upgrade. but thats all possibilities right now. its ok to admit wev suffered some losses or made some mistakes. theres nothing wrong with being critical of something not favorable happening to our team. but to just try to shine s**t an spin one thing into something it is not is the same problem as our injury problem deniers...

denial, denial, denial.

Man how did those LA Rams survive constantly getting poached the past couple years? How about hose Patriots for decades. Andy Reid. Bill Walsh etc Crazy man.

Coaching staffs aren't stagnate...if you are good at your job you will get promoted. Kyle and other coaches have shown that developing coaches is just as important as developing players.

I'm sure you thought Ryans was gonna stink all the same. I'm sure you thought Saleh was was just as green was gonna stink too. Facts are whether you want to admit it or not, our HC is damn good at developing coaches. If I'm a young coach I'm dying to be on Kyle's team...dude get's coaches paid.