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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Pretty stoked about this hire...Trey will have a real QB tutoring him. Man, Shanahan has a ton of connections, doesn't he. Awesome. I'll bet BG's pretty stoked getting this job. The chance to coach up a young talent like Lance doesn't come along very often. For naysayers out there, this'll be Griese's first coaching job. His experience as an NFL analyst will aid him tremendously. Also heard in Lynch's address yesterday they've hired or are in the process of hiring just about all the open positions. Shanahan's coaching tree continues to grow...quite a complement to our main man.

His dad sure does! I keed, I keed.
Originally posted by birdie2bogey:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by birdie2bogey:
I think some are overstating the constant departures of Kyle's staff. That's how top businesses and organizations function and thrive. It's much better to train and develop talent who then leave to advance their careers, than to not develop them and have them stay.

It's a natural cycle. If we train and develop they will leave. If we don't develop then unfortunately they will stay. The latter is how organizations get left behind.

True but usually the CEO doesn't have to train everybody down to the mail room staff. Ha

Yes but you are assuming Kyle hasn't developed a culture of growth. That would mean that Mike McDaniel wasn't developing those under him along the way or that Saleh wasn't involved with the growth of Demeco Ryans. Instead, Kyle is the only resource for training and development. If that was the case then it would not be sustainable.

Personally, I believe the structure is in place for both development and recruitment that can not only survive turnover but thrive in it.

There is nobody under Mike. He's a coordinator. He was expected to stay a long while after his promotion. Lynch noted it was unexpected too. Unless you think a couple of the QC staff are learning under him but both offensive QC's were promoted to position coaches which states otherwise.

Overall I agree with your philosophy. Kyle has no choice but to create a training ground environment at this point. I think having 4 QC's for defense now is the start of building up a larger pool and pipeline and like you noted, from QC to Coordinator, Kyle is going to have to have all of these guys learn as much as they can from him and Ryan quickly and have the QC's train under both position coaches and coordinators and position coaches train under coordinators and Kyle/Ryan.

He's going to have to prep for losing 5 coaches every year. There's no way around it. He's got to have the largest coaching staff in the NFL ala Harbaugh during his tenure here.
[ Edited by NCommand on Mar 5, 2022 at 4:57 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
There is nobody under Mike. He's a coordinator. He was expected to stay a long while after his promotion. Lynch noted it was unexpected too. Unless you think a couple of the QC staff are learning under him but both offensive QC's were promoted to position coaches which states otherwise.

Overall I agree with your philosophy. Kyle has no choice but to create a training ground environment at this point. I think having 4 QC's for defense now is the start of building up a larger pool and pipeline and like you noted, from QC to Coordinator, Kyle is going to have to have all of these guys learn as much as they can from him and Ryan quickly and have the QC's train under both position coaches and coordinators and position coaches train under coordinators and Kyle/Ryan.

He's going to have to prep for losing 5 coaches every year. There's no way around it. He's got to have the largest coaching staff in the NFL ala Harbaugh during his tenure here.

its nuts he booked it after 1 year. Probably messed up some way. Who would promote an oc to hc 1 year on the job. How desperate is miami.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Whats going on with st? This is also a big hole to fill.

Kyle's buddy already swooped in and took the best one off the market. Kyle will probably just promote the assistant. Right???
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
its nuts he booked it after 1 year. Probably messed up some way. Who would promote an oc to hc 1 year on the job. How desperate is miami.

I'll never fault our regime for that. That was totally unexpected...esp. with his addiction history and oddball personality.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
its nuts he booked it after 1 year. Probably messed up some way. Who would promote an oc to hc 1 year on the job. How desperate is miami.

I'll never fault our regime for that. That was totally unexpected...esp. with his addiction history and oddball personality.

Copycat league. Everyone is going crazy for Mcvay and Shanahan's offense in the NFL. Mcvay and Shanahanmania right now.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
its nuts he booked it after 1 year. Probably messed up some way. Who would promote an oc to hc 1 year on the job. How desperate is miami.

I'll never fault our regime for that. That was totally unexpected...esp. with his addiction history and oddball personality.

How is he going to handle defense? Its nuts.
[ Edited by brodiebluebanaszak on Mar 5, 2022 at 7:07 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Whats going on with st? This is also a big hole to fill.

Kyle's buddy already swooped in and took the best one off the market. Kyle will probably just promote the assistant. Right???

Who was the best one? Yeah I expect them to promote Matthew Harper…he was David Flipp's ST assistant for years in Philly.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Whats going on with st? This is also a big hole to fill.

Kyle's buddy already swooped in and took the best one off the market. Kyle will probably just promote the assistant. Right???

Who was the best one? Yeah I expect them to promote Matthew Harper…he was David Flipp's ST assistant for years in Philly.

Rich Basachia I believe.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Whats going on with st? This is also a big hole to fill.

Kyle's buddy already swooped in and took the best one off the market. Kyle will probably just promote the assistant. Right???

Who was the best one? Yeah I expect them to promote Matthew Harper…he was David Flipp's ST assistant for years in Philly.

Same that's what I think is gonna happen
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by NCommand:
There is nobody under Mike. He's a coordinator. He was expected to stay a long while after his promotion. Lynch noted it was unexpected too. Unless you think a couple of the QC staff are learning under him but both offensive QC's were promoted to position coaches which states otherwise.

Overall I agree with your philosophy. Kyle has no choice but to create a training ground environment at this point. I think having 4 QC's for defense now is the start of building up a larger pool and pipeline and like you noted, from QC to Coordinator, Kyle is going to have to have all of these guys learn as much as they can from him and Ryan quickly and have the QC's train under both position coaches and coordinators and position coaches train under coordinators and Kyle/Ryan.

He's going to have to prep for losing 5 coaches every year. There's no way around it. He's got to have the largest coaching staff in the NFL ala Harbaugh during his tenure here.

its nuts he booked it after 1 year. Probably messed up some way. Who would promote an oc to hc 1 year on the job. How desperate is miami.

People thought Ryans was leaving after only 1 year as a DC too.
Originally posted by btthepunk:
People thought Ryans was leaving after only 1 year as a DC too.

What the heck
Originally posted by btthepunk:
People thought Ryans was leaving after only 1 year as a DC too.

Edit: True!!!
[ Edited by NCommand on Mar 5, 2022 at 9:21 AM ]
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
its nuts he booked it after 1 year. Probably messed up some way. Who would promote an oc to hc 1 year on the job. How desperate is miami.

I'll never fault our regime for that. That was totally unexpected...esp. with his addiction history and oddball personality.

Copycat league. Everyone is going crazy for Mcvay and Shanahan's offense in the NFL. Mcvay and Shanahanmania right now.

No kidding!
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