"Super Bowl or Bust" or "Trust the Process"

Looks like bust.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Trey is like Kool Aid Man forget the "window" he's just gonna go right through the wall. The wall will be open for 10-15 years of utter dominance. Rams have a window (and closing) not us.

Rams MIGHT have 1 more year. But then will go back to being irrelevant clowns.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by thl408:
I would trust the process and build for sustained success. SEA and ARI are in shambles and don't seem threatening. LAR has peaked and I think will suffer a downtick in the coming years. Keep building a strong roster while balancing the aggressiveness in spending. If/When the team looks good in week 7ish, that's the time to get aggressive in mortgaging picks for midseason pickups. Too many homegrown studs to extend that will prevent the team from spending big in the offseasons.

That's the one thing I like about John Lynch is that he IS willing to take calculated risks. He traded for Emmanuel Sanders midseason in 2019, and even though it was a one-year rental, a lot of people feel he had a very positive influence on Deebo Samuel.

Of course, the big blemish was trading for Dee Ford. That move looked good in 2019, but his injuries + contract really hurt our flexibility to make moves.

The dynasty years under Walsh were build through the draft. I know you can't compare that era to this cap era, but if you look at the most recent Dynasty - the Patriots, their success was built on good drafts and good trades and good cap management. I don't think the Patriots ever mortgaged their future the way the Rams have done recently. So I agree with building through the draft and making good free agent and cap trades. I think the way ShanaLynch has approached it is correct, and I can't fault their results - a super bowl appearance and an NFCCG appearance in just the span of three years.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by thl408:
I would trust the process and build for sustained success. SEA and ARI are in shambles and don't seem threatening. LAR has peaked and I think will suffer a downtick in the coming years. Keep building a strong roster while balancing the aggressiveness in spending. If/When the team looks good in week 7ish, that's the time to get aggressive in mortgaging picks for midseason pickups. Too many homegrown studs to extend that will prevent the team from spending big in the offseasons.

That's the one thing I like about John Lynch is that he IS willing to take calculated risks. He traded for Emmanuel Sanders midseason in 2019, and even though it was a one-year rental, a lot of people feel he had a very positive influence on Deebo Samuel.

Of course, the big blemish was trading for Dee Ford. That move looked good in 2019, but his injuries + contract really hurt our flexibility to make moves.

The dynasty years under Walsh were build through the draft. I know you can't compare that era to this cap era, but if you look at the most recent Dynasty - the Patriots, their success was built on good drafts and good trades and good cap management. I don't think the Patriots ever mortgaged their future the way the Rams have done recently. So I agree with building through the draft and making good free agent and cap trades. I think the way ShanaLynch has approached it is correct, and I can't fault their results - a super bowl appearance and an NFCCG appearance in just the span of three years.

I like the Shanalynch approach also - the only reason we've not been hoisting 2 more SBs is because of the QB situation. Now that we are going to be stable at QB, things will be good to go.

The Yorks are the anti-Rooneys

Lots of turnover, not much winning.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by thl408:
I would trust the process and build for sustained success. SEA and ARI are in shambles and don't seem threatening. LAR has peaked and I think will suffer a downtick in the coming years. Keep building a strong roster while balancing the aggressiveness in spending. If/When the team looks good in week 7ish, that's the time to get aggressive in mortgaging picks for midseason pickups. Too many homegrown studs to extend that will prevent the team from spending big in the offseasons.

That's the one thing I like about John Lynch is that he IS willing to take calculated risks. He traded for Emmanuel Sanders midseason in 2019, and even though it was a one-year rental, a lot of people feel he had a very positive influence on Deebo Samuel.

Of course, the big blemish was trading for Dee Ford. That move looked good in 2019, but his injuries + contract really hurt our flexibility to make moves.

The dynasty years under Walsh were build through the draft. I know you can't compare that era to this cap era, but if you look at the most recent Dynasty - the Patriots, their success was built on good drafts and good trades and good cap management. I don't think the Patriots ever mortgaged their future the way the Rams have done recently. So I agree with building through the draft and making good free agent and cap trades. I think the way ShanaLynch has approached it is correct, and I can't fault their results - a super bowl appearance and an NFCCG appearance in just the span of three years.

You're right and I'll go even further, we then went "Superbowl or bust" in 94, and haven't won another since.

The Rams way can work, but they need to hit on around 3 draft picks a year, without much capital.

Will be interesting to see how long they can keep it going, it'll be fun to see them fall on their faces, but don't count on it.

Originally posted by SFTifoso:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Trey is like Kool Aid Man forget the "window" he's just gonna go right through the wall. The wall will be open for 10-15 years of utter dominance. Rams have a window (and closing) not us.

Rams MIGHT have 1 more year. But then will go back to being irrelevant clowns.

Rams are solidified at QB.

Our situation is

You don't go SB or bust with a 2nd year QB.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Rams are solidified at QB.

Our situation is

Are they? Stafford has 1 year left on his deal and will be 35 when Rams have to decide to extend him. And he is not like Brady or Rodgers who have taken care of their body. Stafford has taken a beating over the course of his career. He will be a 35 year old in a 50 year old body. And he is going to want atleast $40 Million a year. I actually hope the Rams give him like a 4 year extension worth $160 Million with $80 Million guaranteed.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
We already pushed our chips into the middle with lance. He's either slightly better than Jimmy to great and we win a SB or we suck for the next decade recovering from the talent loss and lost picks.

We do not have any ammo to keep taking big shots nor cap space with pending contracts.

There's no recovering anytime soon if lance doesn't pan out.

Its not all that if Trey busts in regard to talent. Where it is more potentially troubling is what's done with the HC/GM that drafted that bust. Kyle being let go imo would be devastating to this team. Heck they might both be fired if Trey busts outright.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
We already pushed our chips into the middle with lance. He's either slightly better than Jimmy to great and we win a SB or we suck for the next decade recovering from the talent loss and lost picks.

We do not have any ammo to keep taking big shots nor cap space with pending contracts.

There's no recovering anytime soon if lance doesn't pan out.

Its not all that if Trey busts in regard to talent. Where it is more potentially troubling is what's done with the HC/GM that drafted that bust. Kyle being let go imo would be devastating to this team. Heck they might both be fired if Trey busts outright.

I mean, Jed will keep them if we're competitive. He's very happy with them.

But if we suffer losing seasons and Trey busts, then yeah… they've gotta go. Not only did they give up draft capital to acquire him, but, assuming the trade happens, they also let go of Jimmy in favor of Trey. There's already a good amount of fans that are hot and bothered we passed on Brady and Stafford…

Originally posted by tjd808185:
You don't go SB or bust with a 2nd year QB.

You go SB or Bust if you decide to keep Jimmy, or still try to get Aaron Rodgers or lure Brady out of retirement like a lot of hot takes are suggesting…

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by stefano89:
I think the rams have proven you can make it by going all in. The salary cap is more manipulatable than ever. There will always be high end talent FAs available.

The only team ever that won like that. Our model is.more.proven. Props to the Rams for executing their vision.

The Bucs just did the samething with Brady. Got Gronk and AB and won. And if Brady wasn't retiring they'd still be in contention next year. Just like the Rams will be in contention the next few years. Hard to say our model is better when it hasn't produced us a SB. Pats are the only dynasty over the last 20 years. Packers have been in contention for 10 years with nothing to show. I'd rather have a super bowl after 10 years. To me there is no set way. Do what you have to do to get 6.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Are they? Stafford has 1 year left on his deal and will be 35 when Rams have to decide to extend him. And he is not like Brady or Rodgers who have taken care of their body. Stafford has taken a beating over the course of his career. He will be a 35 year old in a 50 year old body. And he is going to want atleast $40 Million a year. I actually hope the Rams give him like a 4 year extension worth $160 Million with $80 Million guaranteed.

I would not count on it. I think Stafford ate a sh*t sandwich for so long getting paid in Detroit he might take a discount.

The Rams pulled him out and he immediately won a SB. He's also made a lot of money in his career.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
I would not count on it. I think Stafford ate a sh*t sandwich for so long getting paid in Detroit he might take a discount.

The Rams pulled him out and he immediately won a SB. He's also made a lot of money in his career.

He's a franchise-level QB that now has a Super Bowl ring on his resume. He can command a very big figure if he wanted.

Tom Brady taking team-friendly deals isn't the norm. Most players try to take every cent they can get. I'm not sure which category Stafford will fall into.

But yeee… that'll be an interesting negotiation.