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Originally posted by WINiner:
Its not all that if Trey busts in regard to talent. Where it is more potentially troubling is what's done with the HC/GM that drafted that bust. Kyle being let go imo would be devastating to this team. Heck they might both be fired if Trey busts outright.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Rams are solidified at QB.
Our situation is
Are they? Stafford has 1 year left on his deal and will be 35 when Rams have to decide to extend him. And he is not like Brady or Rodgers who have taken care of their body. Stafford has taken a beating over the course of his career. He will be a 35 year old in a 50 year old body. And he is going to want atleast $40 Million a year. I actually hope the Rams give him like a 4 year extension worth $160 Million with $80 Million guaranteed.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by lamontb:
The Bucs just did the samething with Brady. Got Gronk and AB and won. And if Brady wasn't retiring they'd still be in contention next year. Just like the Rams will be in contention the next few years. Hard to say our model is better when it hasn't produced us a SB. Pats are the only dynasty over the last 20 years. Packers have been in contention for 10 years with nothing to show. I'd rather have a super bowl after 10 years. To me there is no set way. Do what you have to do to get 6.
The Seahawks had a loaded roster and had Russell Wilson and then had him signed long-term. They fell back to earth. They've been a playoff team for awhile, but I don't think they've been a legit contender for awhile. It's ultimately just too hard to be among the top 4 teams if you don't draft well. I presume the Rams will fall off from being THE favorites after next year.
That's possible. But it's also possible that they draft well and keeping being a contender. The Rams aren't Seattle. Seattle is more similar to the niners than the Rams. I don't recall Seattle making a ton of trades outside of Adams. They have been more draft and develop over shipping out picks for big names. They just didn't hit well enough on the picks they had. Chiefs paid Mahomes and are still gonna be in contention over the next few years. they have done a solid job drafting around Mahomes. It's the exact same boat we hope that Trey puts the Niners in. It will be on the FO to draft well around Trey once he earns his payday. If they do we look like the Chiefs. If not we will look like Seattle. Even if they fall off after next year, that's a strong 3 year window with a championship. I wouldn't complain about that at all as a fan. I'm sure Bucs fans aren't mad that they only had a 2 year window and won a SB. We have had a strong 3 year window with a 2nd place banner. If they could make one trade to give us that chip. I'm all for it. Hopefully we made that move last year with Trey and all this will be moot
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Originally posted by stefano89:Only because they won the whole thing but still could've as easily lost a 7th straight to the Niners. Still their approach of literally SB championship or bust isn't a sure thing, let alone a sound philosophy.
I think the rams have proven you can make it by going all in. The salary cap is more manipulatable than ever. There will always be high end talent FAs available.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Originally posted by stefano89:Only because they won the whole thing but still could've as easily lost a 7th straight to the Niners. Still their approach of literally SB championship or bust isn't a sure thing, let alone a sound philosophy.
I think the rams have proven you can make it by going all in. The salary cap is more manipulatable than ever. There will always be high end talent FAs available.
It is if the upgrades are at QB, CB, ER and WR. That's what put them over the top. OBJ was just enough even with the injuries. CB and an ER allowed freedom for the DC and the QB, despite 2 INT's made just enough plays in an all-passing offense.
If we add a real CB, another ER and Trey plays anywhere near Mac Jones or Jimmy Garoppolo in year one, that might just be enough IF we can have their similar level of pass protection when it matters.
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Has any other team ever really tried to do what the Rams did this year (and the past few years)? I know, there was the infamous Eagles Dream Team... But I don't recall ever seeing a team aggressively give up their first rounders.
In my head, it seems to me that they'll eventually drop off... but I wonder if it can be sustainable to do so, if you already have core pieces. Instead of drafting a player that has the potential to bust, could take 2-3 years to develop... trade a future first rounder for a sure-fire star player... sign him for 2-3 years, and then not re-sign him to a huge cap number. I feel like you can do this when you do have a solid coach in McVay... on offense, you have a Stafford and a Kupp... On defense, you have a Donald.
Of course, if a guy like Aaron Donald were to retire... then yeah, that'd put a huge damper on your defense.
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
I would not count on it. I think Stafford ate a sh*t sandwich for so long getting paid in Detroit he might take a discount.
The Rams pulled him out and he immediately won a SB. He's also made a lot of money in his career.
He's a franchise-level QB that now has a Super Bowl ring on his resume. He can command a very big figure if he wanted.
Tom Brady taking team-friendly deals isn't the norm. Most players try to take every cent they can get. I'm not sure which category Stafford will fall into.
But yeee… that'll be an interesting negotiation.
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
I would not count on it. I think Stafford ate a sh*t sandwich for so long getting paid in Detroit he might take a discount.
The Rams pulled him out and he immediately won a SB. He's also made a lot of money in his career.
He's a franchise-level QB that now has a Super Bowl ring on his resume. He can command a very big figure if he wanted.
Tom Brady taking team-friendly deals isn't the norm. Most players try to take every cent they can get. I'm not sure which category Stafford will fall into.
But yeee… that'll be an interesting negotiation.
Yes. I think he will cut them some slack but it won't be crazy. My guess is he probably will go somewhere like 33-38 mill.
I have a feeling he won't ask for more than 40.
I think the Rams can say they pulled him out of a sh*thole and if he enjoys winning he will cut them some slack so they can spread some money around.
I'd be surprised if he took less than 33.
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:
Broncos in '15 when they got Peyton his last ring and loaded up on D
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Originally posted by stefano89:Only because they won the whole thing but still could've as easily lost a 7th straight to the Niners. Still their approach of literally SB championship or bust isn't a sure thing, let alone a sound philosophy.
I think the rams have proven you can make it by going all in. The salary cap is more manipulatable than ever. There will always be high end talent FAs available.
It is if the upgrades are at QB, CB, ER and WR. That's what put them over the top. OBJ was just enough even with the injuries. CB and an ER allowed freedom for the DC and the QB, despite 2 INT's made just enough plays in an all-passing offense.
If we add a real CB, another ER and Trey plays anywhere near Mac Jones or Jimmy Garoppolo in year one, that might just be enough IF we can have their similar level of pass protection when it matters.
Has any other team ever really tried to do what the Rams did this year (and the past few years)? I know, there was the infamous Eagles Dream Team... But I don't recall ever seeing a team aggressively give up their first rounders.
In my head, it seems to me that they'll eventually drop off... but I wonder if it can be sustainable to do so, if you already have core pieces. Instead of drafting a player that has the potential to bust, could take 2-3 years to develop... trade a future first rounder for a sure-fire star player... sign him for 2-3 years, and then not re-sign him to a huge cap number. I feel like you can do this when you do have a solid coach in McVay... on offense, you have a Stafford and a Kupp... On defense, you have a Donald.
Of course, if a guy like Aaron Donald were to retire... then yeah, that'd put a huge damper on your defense.
