49ers QB Coach Brian Griese Thread

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I think hes done a hellava job considering what has been shown by the QBs.... Jimmy G playing best of his career before injured......3rd string qb dropped in the biggest hype game so far for us and played well.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Most underrated coaching hire for sure. Will we need to promote him to keep him? I could easily see teams interested in him as OC.

Originally posted by Giedi:

I've really been impressed with Brian coaching up our young QBs so far. Purdy looked like a veteran out there.

Originally posted by dj43:
Yesterday I watched the 49er podcast with Brian Rennick, Al Sacco, and Zain (?). Among other issues, they questioned whether or not Kyle Shanahan is capable of actually teaching a QB how to play the position. They noted from history that Kyle has generally had veteran QBs that did not need a lot of tutoring. Rather than teaching, he would just scheme to their strengths and avoid their weaknesses. That point was acknowledged by all three. Few rookies actually showed gains under his watch. RG3 was more about scheme and the work Sean McVay did with him than with Shanahan.

The reason I bring this up is to shine a light on Brian Griese and the fact he brings a lot more to the table than did previous QB coaches here. With so much on the table with Lance, it would seem that the role Griese plays here should be scrutinized closely. We should be able to measure the value of Griese, and thus the wisdom of the hire, if Lance becomes more consistent, reads better, improves accuracy, etc. under Griese. Of course, the flip side of that would be that we could also see a ceiling for Lance if he fails to improve in those areas, something we all hope does not occur.

Also, now that Garoppolo is actively training with the other QBs, will Griese be able to improve some of his flaws? It has been noted in the JG thread that he is still the same basic QB that he was when he came from New England. That is what I see of him as well. Just drawing a paycheck for 8 years does not concretely put a lid on a player. Shanahan replacing Scangarello would seem to speak to recognition of the need for better QB coaching.

With so much at stake with the rest of the roster, Brian Griese appears to be the key guy in the building at this point. Will Lance be able to respond to Griese to bring his level of play to a higher and more consistent level?

Time will tell.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by dj43:
Yesterday I watched the 49er podcast with Brian Rennick, Al Sacco, and Zain (?). Among other issues, they questioned whether or not Kyle Shanahan is capable of actually teaching a QB how to play the position. They noted from history that Kyle has generally had veteran QBs that did not need a lot of tutoring. Rather than teaching, he would just scheme to their strengths and avoid their weaknesses. That point was acknowledged by all three. Few rookies actually showed gains under his watch. RG3 was more about scheme and the work Sean McVay did with him than with Shanahan.

The reason I bring this up is to shine a light on Brian Griese and the fact he brings a lot more to the table than did previous QB coaches here. With so much on the table with Lance, it would seem that the role Griese plays here should be scrutinized closely. We should be able to measure the value of Griese, and thus the wisdom of the hire, if Lance becomes more consistent, reads better, improves accuracy, etc. under Griese. Of course, the flip side of that would be that we could also see a ceiling for Lance if he fails to improve in those areas, something we all hope does not occur.

Also, now that Garoppolo is actively training with the other QBs, will Griese be able to improve some of his flaws? It has been noted in the JG thread that he is still the same basic QB that he was when he came from New England. That is what I see of him as well. Just drawing a paycheck for 8 years does not concretely put a lid on a player. Shanahan replacing Scangarello would seem to speak to recognition of the need for better QB coaching.

With so much at stake with the rest of the roster, Brian Griese appears to be the key guy in the building at this point. Will Lance be able to respond to Griese to bring his level of play to a higher and more consistent level?

Time will tell.

Another early view of Griese.

While we all are impressed with Purdy, I believe Griese may have done his best work with Garoppolo, getting him to do things he had not done here before.

In any case, he deserves some .

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Most underrated coaching hire for sure. Will we need to promote him to keep him? I could easily see teams interested in him as OC.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by dj43:
Yesterday I watched the 49er podcast with Brian Rennick, Al Sacco, and Zain (?). Among other issues, they questioned whether or not Kyle Shanahan is capable of actually teaching a QB how to play the position. They noted from history that Kyle has generally had veteran QBs that did not need a lot of tutoring. Rather than teaching, he would just scheme to their strengths and avoid their weaknesses. That point was acknowledged by all three. Few rookies actually showed gains under his watch. RG3 was more about scheme and the work Sean McVay did with him than with Shanahan.

The reason I bring this up is to shine a light on Brian Griese and the fact he brings a lot more to the table than did previous QB coaches here. With so much on the table with Lance, it would seem that the role Griese plays here should be scrutinized closely. We should be able to measure the value of Griese, and thus the wisdom of the hire, if Lance becomes more consistent, reads better, improves accuracy, etc. under Griese. Of course, the flip side of that would be that we could also see a ceiling for Lance if he fails to improve in those areas, something we all hope does not occur.

Also, now that Garoppolo is actively training with the other QBs, will Griese be able to improve some of his flaws? It has been noted in the JG thread that he is still the same basic QB that he was when he came from New England. That is what I see of him as well. Just drawing a paycheck for 8 years does not concretely put a lid on a player. Shanahan replacing Scangarello would seem to speak to recognition of the need for better QB coaching.

With so much at stake with the rest of the roster, Brian Griese appears to be the key guy in the building at this point. Will Lance be able to respond to Griese to bring his level of play to a higher and more consistent level?

Time will tell.

Another early view of Griese.

While we all are impressed with Purdy, I believe Griese may have done his best work with Garoppolo, getting him to do things he had not done here before.

In any case, he deserves some .

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Most underrated coaching hire for sure. Will we need to promote him to keep him? I could easily see teams interested in him as OC.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Most underrated coaching hire for sure. Will we need to promote him to keep him? I could easily see teams interested in him as OC.

Not yet. I can see teams wanting to pluck our guys however- any bottom feeding team that missed out on Saleh or McDaniel.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Most underrated coaching hire for sure. Will we need to promote him to keep him? I could easily see teams interested in him as OC.

Not yet. I can see teams wanting to pluck our guys however- any bottom feeding team that missed out on Saleh or McDaniel.

You don't think Ryans will want an OC when he gets his HC gig? I think he will. How many assistants did Saleh take with him? How about McDaniel? Count on losing other assistants and players when he leaves.

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Most underrated coaching hire for sure. Will we need to promote him to keep him? I could easily see teams interested in him as OC.

I was so underwhelmed with this hire.

He has turned out to be gold!

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Most underrated coaching hire for sure. Will we need to promote him to keep him? I could easily see teams interested in him as OC.

I was so underwhelmed with this hire.

He has turned out to be gold!

I didn't get why people were. Its not a wow hire, but wow hires typically aren't available. The guy did play in Mike's system and had some success as a pro QB.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Most underrated coaching hire for sure. Will we need to promote him to keep him? I could easily see teams interested in him as OC.

Not yet. I can see teams wanting to pluck our guys however- any bottom feeding team that missed out on Saleh or McDaniel.

You don't think Ryans will want an OC when he gets his HC gig? I think he will. How many assistants did Saleh take with him? How about McDaniel? Count on losing other assistants and players when he leaves.

Absolutely. I am counting on that - see my second sentence. I honestly didn't know who DeMeco could look to, but honestly, I'd go for an experienced playcaller who isn't likely to get hired as a HC if I'm him. Who is the Norv Turner of this generation?