49ers QB Coach Brian Griese Thread

Originally posted by Deebo:
Griese will also help as that vet QB mentor that you often look for in a backup

Great point

Every QB he's coached since joining the 49ers, are undefeated let that sink in.

Originally posted by Deebo:

Griese will also help as that vet QB mentor that you often look for in a backup

That's a pretty good point. He could very much be that kind of asset.

Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree. Like tends to assemble with like. Good coaches with good coaches, good players with good players (TE academey, pass rusher academy - for example). Also I think John Lynch had a role to play too, in my opinion. Both Griese and Lynch are talking heads, and probably associated a lot prior to - when Lynch was a broadcaster and probably even after he was a GM. I can imagine a scenario where Brian calls John and asks John to pass to Kyle his interest in being a coach for Kyle. Or conversely, Kyle asking John what his opinion is of Brian as a person and what his intangibles were as a broadcaster.

I don't think Shanahan needs Lynch as an intermediary with Griese, they know each other well enough.

Agree. I'm sure they all know each other pretty well. Lynch as a broadcaster and former player and Kyle as a son to the coach Brian played under.

Point was that I think guys that love football will hang out with guys that love football, and that usually translates to good football IQ and good (hopefully) coaching for Trey.

Kyle was also on Gruden's staff in Tampa when Griese was there, so Kyle knows him personally as well.

Just a thought, I think one reason for letting Scangarello and McDaniel go is maybe the length of time they took to figure out Jimmys strengths (the four wide shotgun for example). A more experienced QB coach (at the highest levels of the NFL) may have a much faster time in detecting Trey's strengths and weaknesses, correcting those and enhancing the others. Scangarello never played in the NFL and I don't think he ever played the QB position. With Griese coming in and his experience of being a NFL passing leader, I think the positives are many. Griese can spot Trey's abilities and has the experience and technical know how to speed his evolution vs a coach that never played the position.

That's a question mark for me. Is he the guy to get Trey ready for his style of ball? Not only the lack of experience as a the qb position coach and a mediocre career, I don't know if he is the guy to a totally different style of player. But what do I know…

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
That's a question mark for me. Is he the guy to get Trey ready for his style of ball? Not only the lack of experience as a the qb position coach and a mediocre career, I don't know if he is the guy to a totally different style of player. But what do I know…

Fair question. Maybe this is Kyle's way of ensuring Trey learns to think pass first (coachable) and then do his off script thing (not coachable).

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
That's a question mark for me. Is he the guy to get Trey ready for his style of ball? Not only the lack of experience as a the qb position coach and a mediocre career, I don't know if he is the guy to a totally different style of player. But what do I know…

Fair question. Maybe this is Kyle's way of ensuring Trey learns to think pass first (coachable) and then do his off script thing (not coachable).

Personally I'd have Lynn teach the RB skills to Trey. Griese can still teach Trey the all important dump off passes if Trey gets in trouble. Things like ball protection and protecting yourself as a RB, or hitting the right hole, would be better coached (I think) by Anthony.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Personally I'd have Lynn teach the RB skills to Trey. Griese can still teach Trey the all important dump off passes if Trey gets in trouble. Things like ball protection and protecting yourself as a RB, or hitting the right hole, would be better coached (I think) by Anthony.

The 49ers drafted a QB, not a RB. If Lance is going to be out there running like Lamar Jackson, his career won't be a long lasting one.

The stuff he needs to master comes down to being able to sit in the pocket and pick a defense apart with his arm.

Like Elway and Young, his ability to run is just the cherry on top, not the entire meal.

Is there a lot of precedent for someone spending over 10 years in the TV studio switching over to a coaching job and doing well at it? I don't follow things all that closely and can think of a few examples of guys who have been terrible after a long stint on TV.

No matter how good you are at a job, if you don't do it for 10 years you forget the details.

Not that worked up about this hire

Originally posted by exile:
Is there a lot of precedent for someone spending over 10 years in the TV studio switching over to a coaching job and doing well at it? I don't follow things all that closely and can think of a few examples of guys who have been terrible after a long stint on TV.

No matter how good you are at a job, if you don't do it for 10 years you forget the details.

Dick Vermeil won a SB after spending like 16 years away from coaching. You don't suddenly forget what you've learned about the game, especially if you're continually surrounded by it because you're calling games which involves watching tape weekly and conducting interviews with players and coaches.

To everyone evaluating our coaching hires... whether you have a good/bad opinion... to be honest, unless it's an established NFL coach that has a track record... how much can we really evaluate new, young hires?

There's really not a lot to go off of, except to just see what their lineage is.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by exile:
Is there a lot of precedent for someone spending over 10 years in the TV studio switching over to a coaching job and doing well at it? I don't follow things all that closely and can think of a few examples of guys who have been terrible after a long stint on TV.

No matter how good you are at a job, if you don't do it for 10 years you forget the details.

Dick Vermeil won a SB after spending like 16 years away from coaching. You don't suddenly forget what you've learned about the game, especially if you're continually surrounded by it because you're calling games which involves watching tape weekly and conducting interviews with players and coaches.

Another thing is, that Trey's development isn't completely on Griese. I'm sure Bobby Slowik, Klint Kubiak, possibly Lynn, and of course Kyle are all going to have a hand in his future development. I know that seems like a lot of voices in Trey's head, but as long as the coaching points and messaging remain consistent among those guys it shouldn't be a problem.

They need to get whoever coached josh fallen on his mechanics to get with Trey. Not some rookie coach. imo.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by exile:
Is there a lot of precedent for someone spending over 10 years in the TV studio switching over to a coaching job and doing well at it? I don't follow things all that closely and can think of a few examples of guys who have been terrible after a long stint on TV.

No matter how good you are at a job, if you don't do it for 10 years you forget the details.

Dick Vermeil won a SB after spending like 16 years away from coaching. You don't suddenly forget what you've learned about the game, especially if you're continually surrounded by it because you're calling games which involves watching tape weekly and conducting interviews with players and coaches.

Dick Vermeil took the Eagles to a Superbowl little different situation then with Griese who has no experience coaching.