2022 Team Information (Needs)

Originally posted by mayo49:
As always - fabulous work, AB.

Thanks, as always,

Nice read!

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I agree with letting Laken, DJ & Key test the FA waters, I would love all 3 back, but Kocurek can get a lot out of cheap players, either young(Key) or vets(Hyder), I'm not sure who takes Laken's spot, if he leaves, I try and sign James Daniels or Alex Cappa, move Banks to LG, then go after a CB for sure, if/when they lose out of JC Jackson, cause an $18M a yr CB is ridiculous, no CB is worth that, not even Ramsey's $20M who gets beat also, someone like a Charvarius Ward, Levi Wallace, D.J. Reed, Donte Jackson, a young CB you sign for 5yrs, same with Daniels/Cappa. They need to address the OL, either G or RT, I don't trust either Compton or McGlinchey, I like both, I like Compton as a depthb piece, other than that, I'd rather take a IOL(Alec Lindstrom) in the draft, I'd take him if he's there with pick 102.

As for the draft, I'd go EDGE, Speedy WR, CB, IOL as biggest needs, then LB depth behind Warner, Dre, & Al-Shaair, a FS/SS to groom behind Ward, we'll see what Moore can do coming back, also would love to add IDL help in the draft, especially if DJ walks, & Key too, who did a good job playing DT on pass rush downs, we were very effective with both Bosa-AA-Jones-Ebukam, & Bosa-AA-Key-Ebukam, I'm sure I butchered the order lol. But overall I agree, I'd love to bring in a Dante Fowler if we lose Key.

I'd also love Patterson, I'd give him a 3yr deal worth $18M($6M a yr) or Ray-Ray McCloud on a 3-4 yr deal worth $5M a yr, but I prefer Patterson.

Wow, looks like you and I have nearly identical approaches and targets. That's pretty cool given I made a conscious effort not to read your off season plans so I could be less swayed by others views. Way to go. Now i can read your work again. LOL

Originally posted by kirkscrafford:
Nice read!

TY!

Great job NC and AB! I'm on board with what you gents are thinking. Would love to have Laken and DJ back, but it feels like we are at a vital point where we don't have to be frugal, but we cannot overpay when a reasonably priced replacement is available. Cannot wait for the next few weeks!

Originally posted by NCommand:
Wow, looks like you and I have nearly identical approaches and targets. That's pretty cool given I made a conscious effort not to read your off season plans so I could be less swayed by others views. Way to go. Now i can read your work again. LOL

Yep, I would love a guy like JC Jackson, but I'm fine with a Charvarius Ward, Levi Wallace, DJ Reed, Donte Jackson, a young CB who we can get for cheaper, way cheaper, than what Jackson & Carlton Davis will go for.

And Lol, on the reading my work again, but hey we don't have different approaches, I just want to be active in FA if we end up losing DJ, Laken, Key, etc.... Just don't screw up and overpay guys like JC Jackson or Davis, not for a $18M a yr CB. Now one of the guys above for $10M a yr, sign me up, same with Daniels or Cappa.

Originally posted by DASeiler49:
Great job NC and AB! I'm on board with what you gents are thinking. Would love to have Laken and DJ back, but it feels like we are at a vital point where we don't have to be frugal, but we cannot overpay when a reasonably priced replacement is available. Cannot wait for the next few weeks!

Thanks, much appreciated, and yes, we need to be active, but not cheap, John has shown that, since 2018 he's learned from the mistakes of Jet, 2019 was weird, Kwon ended up being an overpay, he would have been fine, maybe still here had it not been for Dre, and now Al-Shaair stepping up. I also can't wait for these next few weeks. Plus what I like about this regime, they sign 2-3 FAs from other teams to good sized deals(Mack & Ebukam last yr), then they reward our own, Trent, Juice on new deals, Warner extension, AA deal in 2020, now looks good, Ward as well, Kittle extension, Deebo & Bosa will happen this offseason, and I'm 100% confident Aiyuk gets done next offseason when eligible.

I don´t want to lose DJ because that guy is a 320-lb/2-gap run defender who also has some pass-rush skills and nowadays with the d-linemen being smaller and smaller is very hard to find one of those and with him playing 2-gap we can play 2 deep more.

I think we can let Key walk because he is a product of Kocurek just like Hyder was.

About getting Jackson I´d love it because facing Kupp, Nuk and DK twice a year we need a real #1 CB but if we´re not willing to pay all that money then I´d go for Gilmore because I´m sure that he still can play at least 2 years at a high level and he´d be cheaper. BTW I´d hate getting Ward.

If we're able to sign an IOL, Edge and CB in FA it'll really help us look good going into the draft... s**t maybe even a bargain speed guy to replace Benjamin, or Cordarrelle Patterson as AB suggested, then get the speed guy in the draft.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Yep, I would love a guy like JC Jackson, but I'm fine with a Charvarius Ward, Levi Wallace, DJ Reed, Donte Jackson, a young CB who we can get for cheaper, way cheaper, than what Jackson & Carlton Davis will go for.

And Lol, on the reading my work again, but hey we don't have different approaches, I just want to be active in FA if we end up losing DJ, Laken, Key, etc.... Just don't screw up and overpay guys like JC Jackson or Davis, not for a $18M a yr CB. Now one of the guys above for $10M a yr, sign me up, same with Daniels or Cappa.

Definitely. I'll be watching Carlton Davis and his market. He might be as high as I go but we'll see where that market ends up. But a guy like Reed offers even more than Davis versatility and ST's as well. That SCB is ultra important now.

Originally posted by mayo49:
As always - fabulous work, AB.

Hall of fame awards to both! NC and AB!

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
I don´t want to lose DJ because that guy is a 320-lb/2-gap run defender who also has some pass-rush skills and nowadays with the d-linemen being smaller and smaller is very hard to find one of those and with him playing 2-gap we can play 2 deep more.

I think we can let Key walk because he is a product of Kocurek just like Hyder was.

About getting Jackson I´d love it because facing Kupp, Nuk and DK twice a year we need a real #1 CB but if we´re not willing to pay all that money then I´d go for Gilmore because I´m sure that he still can play at least 2 years at a high level and he´d be cheaper. BTW I´d hate getting Ward.

If they can trade Jimmy, I'm confident they can keep DJ Aand Arden Key. Bosa and Deebo's future extensions won't hit *this* year but next year when the cap jumps (hopefully) big enough to absorb their front loaded contracts. Another reason I think they will keep DJ and Arden is because defensive line is a priority for ShanaLynch. They were willing to give Dee Ford 30+ million (Defer to AB on the details) they should be able to find cap space for DJ and Key.

We checking off those boxes?

Originally posted by NCommand:
We checking off those boxes?

Gained a bigger box for OL

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We checking off those boxes?

Gained a bigger box for OL

Sigh

Originally posted by NCommand:
NC's Free Agent Targets/Plan:

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Team Needs: CB, ER (Speed), IOL (C & G), RT, SS, XWR (Speed), QB2, T (Future), TE2, SWR, ST (Returner)
FA Position Targets: CB, ER (Speed), IOL (G), RT, QB2, ST (Returner)
Draft Position Targets: CB, ER (Speed), IOL (C), SS, XWR (Speed), T (Future), TE2, SWR, ST (Returner)

Unrestricted FAs:
LG Laken Tomlinson - Let him test the saturated G market (Goal: $9M APY) (Jets)
1T D.J. Jones - Let him test the saturated DT market (Goal: $5M APY) (Broncos)
3T Arden Key - Let him test the saturated ER market (Goal: $3M APY)
RB Raheem Mostert - 2-year, $4M
RB Jeff Wilson - 1-year, $1.5M
CB Jason Verrett - 1-year, $3M
ER/ST Jordan Willis - 1-year, $1.5M
SWR Trent Sherfield - 1-year, $1M
SAM Marcell Harris - 1-year, $1M
SCB K'Waun Williams - Walk
SS Jaquiski Tartt - Walk
G/T Tom Compton - Walk
TE Ross Dwelley - Walk
CB Dontae Johnson - Walk
SWR Mohamed Sanu - Walk
SWR/KR Trenton Cannon - Walk
SS Tavon Wilson - Walk
SWR Travis Benjamin - Walk
3T Darrion Daniels - Walk
S Jarrod Wilson - Walk
CB Josh Norman - GTFO!

Restricted FA's:
G/T Daniel Brunskill - ROFR
SAM Azeez Al-Shaair - ROFR (2nd RT)
3T Kentavius Street - Walk

Outside FA Targets:

Cornerbacks: Outside/Slot
D.J. Reed (Outside/Slot/Free Safety CB + Punt Returner) - 78.6 PFF - Only J.C. Jackson had a higher grade and this guy can do far more. Time to come home! (Jets)
Carlton Davis (Outside/Slot CB) - 67 PFF - Versatile CB that we could use to go up against an NFCW that loves to pass and is loaded with receiving weapons. (Bucs)
Casey Hayward (Outside CB) - 76 PFF - Still played 94% at a high level. Could be the veteran in the room while performing at a high level.
Charvarius Ward (Outside/Slot CB) - 65.7 PFF - All three slot CB's are 26-28 years old.
Rasul Douglas (Slot CB) - 74.8 PFF - Slot CB is an area that cost us and we have 3 quality ones to choose from playing 57% to 67% of the snaps.
Sidney Jones (Slot CB) - 70.2 PFF - Steal from Seattle. (Seahawks)

Edge Rusher:
Chandler Jones - 70.4 PFF - Priority FA signing that lessens the load on the CB FA market. (Bills)
Melvin Ingram - 79.7 PFF - 50% pass rusher that would love the W9 in our rotation. Arden Key and Jordan Willis only played 34% and 14%, respectively.
Ogbonnia Okoronkwo - 79.2 PFF - Remember OO? He's 27 but only played 22% of the snaps. Might be a flyer-rotation player coming into his own. (Texans)
Justin Houston - 77.9 PFF - 50% pass rusher that would love the W9 in our rotation.
Tyquan Lewis - 71.3 PFF - 1-down edge-setter/ER. (Colts)
Marquis Haynes - 71.3 PFF - 1-down edge-setter/ER. (Panthers)
Jerry Hughes - 71.1 PFF - 50% pass rusher that would love the W9 in our rotation.
Za'Darius Smith - Now healthy and expected to be released.

Offensive Line:
Connor Williams (LG) - 76.1 PFF - Young stud you lock up for 4-5 years (Dolphins)
Laken Tomlinson (LG) - 75.9 PFF (Jets)
Alex Cappa (RG) - 74.2 PFF - Young stud you lock up for 4-5 years (Bengals)
Brandon Scherff (RG) - 73.6 PFF - Older veteran you can use for a year or two still performing at a high level (Jaguars)
Quinton Spain (LG) - 72.3 PFF - Older veteran you can use for a year or two still performing at a high level
James Daniels (RG) - 71 PFF - Young stud you lock up for 4-5 years (Steelers)
Mark Glowinski (RG) - 70.1 PFF - Older veteran you can use for a year or two still performing at a high level (Giants)
Mike Remmers (RT) - 64.5 PFF - All three of these RT's are nice scheme fits but only played 13%, 26% & 74%, respectively.
Cameron Fleming (RT) - 71.7 PFF - More security for Mike McGlinchey and the youngest of the bunch at 30
Bobby Massie (RT) - 70 PFF - More security for Mike McGlinchey

QB2:
Tyrod Taylor - Connection with Anthony Lynn (Giants)
Mitch Trubisky - Mobility to mold (Steelers)
Marcus Mariota - Mobility to mold

Specialty:
Cordarrelle Patterson (WR/RB/ST) - 82.8 PFF - Deebo gets nicked up. Let's not lose that skill set if he goes down again. Others include: Jakeem Grant, Ray-Ray McCloud & Kalif Raymond

Rationale:
This team excels at developing the DL and LB's. The WR's and TE's have developed very nicely too. The areas where this team struggles developing is CB, OL and ER's are usually hard to find (or take longer to develop in the W9). Therefore, buy what you can't develop and/or need immediately!

IMHO, you let Laken Tomlinson, D.J. Jones and Arden Key all go test the market and let them come back to us with their best deal. Note the quality bucket of G's and RT's where you can get an older veteran for a year or two for security for Mike McGlinchey and let a young player develop for one more year (Jaylon Moore) who can take over after Mike/veteran leaves next year. The same applies to both G positions where you can lock up a couple young quality players for a long time and/or buy some cheaper quality veteran security to push a player like Aaron Banks and give you more flexibility with Brunskill as the swing-OL. DL is always oversaturated in FA now and like last year, you can always grab players like Willis/Key late. The ER bucket is actually really nice this year but IMHO, you go all-in on Chandler Jones here as your marquee FA. If not, there are a number of older ER players that are still producing at a high level and can be part of a rush dime package to keep fresh for 50% of the snaps, at most.

Trends: DT, S, LB, TE2, SWR and ST (Returner) always seems to be available late either b/c of cap cost and/or saturated markets. These are the positions you target well after the free agency esp. cuts as they don't count against the comp formula. Of note, Kyle has been trying to get a dominant TE2 forever in free agency. Don't be surprised if they finally land one.

Free agency should be about setting up the draft to go BPA to stack young talent at the most critical positions. CB, ER (Speed), IOL (C), SS, XWR (Speed), T (Future), TE2, SWR, ST (Returner).

So far, they are following my plan. Let Tomlinson and Jones test the market and grabbed Ward. ROFR for Brunskill and 2nd round tender for Azeez. ST addition. Let Street test the market.

The OL and backup QB market is almost dry now though.

Better focus on ER!

Also, from the OP:

Priority Targets for Trade/Cut/Extensions/Restructures:
QB Jimmy Garoppolo (Trade)
ER Dee Ford (Cut) - Restructured
ER Nick Bosa (Extension)
ZWR Deebo Samuel (Extension)
ER Samson Ebukam (Extension/Cut)
FS Jimmie Ward (Extension)
LT Trent Williams (Restructure)
3T Arik Armstead (Restructure) - Restructured
TE George Kittle (Restructure) - Restructured
CB Emmanuel Moseley (Restructure)