Kittle Playoff Production & Biggest Moments

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
OP doesn't watch 49er games

Now this is silly

making it seem that it's kittle's fault.. is equal to that

Originally posted by da209:
being used to block and a few missed throws to him by jimmy. He came up huge vs the saints.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by hubbyt:
I remember Vernon Davis making big plays in the playoffs with Alex Smith and Kap at qb. Kittle, Kyle and all parties involved gotta find a way to get this man the ball much much more in the playoffs. But i like the discussion. Dont make it into a slander George post its not that but tell me his biggest playoff moments?????

Offensive PI in the Super Bowl

LOL..he got robbed on that one.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
OP doesn't watch 49er games

Now this is silly

making it seem that it's kittle's fault.. is equal to that

I'm not making it seem like that but his playoff numbers are. Read every comment Ive made. Never dissed Kittle. Shanahan is at the heart of this issue. Yes, Jimmy is too but we are overlooking Kyle. Get Kittle the ball. Period. He can devise ways to get Deebo the ball. Do the same for Kittle. Treat your star tight end like a star tight end. Jimmy has been bad but man 2 catches a game on avg in the playoffs? Thats acceptable?

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
OP doesn't watch 49er games

Now this is silly

making it seem that it's kittle's fault.. is equal to that

I'm not making it seem like that but his playoff numbers are. Read every comment Ive made. Never dissed Kittle. Shanahan is at the heart of this issue. Yes, Jimmy is too but we are overlooking Kyle. Get Kittle the ball. Period. He can devise ways to get Deebo the ball. Do the same for Kittle. Treat your star tight end like a star tight end. Jimmy has been bad but man 2 catches a game on avg in the playoffs? Thats acceptable?

And you lost me.

Would have had slightly better numbers if he wasn't false flagged for OPI to close out the first half of the super bowl.

Originally posted by hubbyt:
With the recent contract restructure announced today I started thinking about George Kittles production in big games. Specifically, playoff games. Did some googling and found that Kittle only has 15 catches for 179 yards and 1 td in 6 career playoff games. He comes up extremely small for whatever reason. I cannot think of a big playoff moment he's had. What do you guys make of that? A player being paid that much who's that talented doing so little when the team needs it most.

Thoughts.........

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
OP doesn't watch 49er games

Now this is silly

making it seem that it's kittle's fault.. is equal to that

I'm not making it seem like that but his playoff numbers are. Read every comment Ive made. Never dissed Kittle. Shanahan is at the heart of this issue. Yes, Jimmy is too but we are overlooking Kyle. Get Kittle the ball. Period. He can devise ways to get Deebo the ball. Do the same for Kittle. Treat your star tight end like a star tight end. Jimmy has been bad but man 2 catches a game on avg in the playoffs? Thats acceptable?

so this brings it back to watching 49er games

this has been discussed ad nauseam in the Film threads...I will sum it up for you.. Kittle and others are open, jimmy s**ts his pants. end of discussion

This notion of playoff performers is so dumb imo. They said that about Bonds for years. Guy isn't a playoff performer. Whatever that means. Of course in 2002 he crushed the playoffs on an absurd level and that bad playoff take went away. I remember this about Manning also. In college they said he can't win the big one. In the NFL they said he can't win the big one. Then he won the big one.

Kittle had a nice TD in the NFC Champ. Just cuz he hasn't had a game for the ages in his very brief playoff moments when we didn't throw a lot in 2019 and JG was busted arm and hand in 2021, means exactly zero. He doesn't magically become less of a TE when the calendar goes from Week 18 to postseason that's just such a bad take. I mean explain how that works. It's playoffs so he forgets how to play or he is a choker and chokes is that honestly what you are trying to say lol?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
This notion of playoff performers is so dumb imo. They said that about Bonds for years. Guy isn't a playoff performer. Whatever that means. Of course in 2002 he crushed the playoffs on an absurd level and that bad playoff take went away. I remember this about Manning also. In college they said he can't win the big one. In the NFL they said he can't win the big one. Then he won the big one.

Kittle had a nice TD in the NFC Champ. Just cuz he hasn't had a game for the ages in his very brief playoff moments when we didn't throw a lot in 2019 and JG was busted arm and hand in 2021, means exactly zero. He doesn't magically become less of a TE when the calendar goes from Week 18 to postseason that's just such a bad take. I mean explain how that works. It's playoffs so he forgets how to play or he is a choker and chokes is that honestly what you are trying to say lol?

I asked what Kittle biggest playoff moments have been. I dont think he is a choker. I think you prioritize finding a way to get a star player the ball more than twice a game in the playoffs. Otherwise whats the point of having said star player. To block? Youre right he doesnt magically become a worse player. Seems like the only reason we scored any points at all this last playoff run was due to Deebo being force fed the ball. We found a way to do that with our bad QB. Find a way to get it to George too is what im saying...yal aint gotta be so protective when the playoff numbers speak for themselves.

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
This notion of playoff performers is so dumb imo. They said that about Bonds for years. Guy isn't a playoff performer. Whatever that means. Of course in 2002 he crushed the playoffs on an absurd level and that bad playoff take went away. I remember this about Manning also. In college they said he can't win the big one. In the NFL they said he can't win the big one. Then he won the big one.

Kittle had a nice TD in the NFC Champ. Just cuz he hasn't had a game for the ages in his very brief playoff moments when we didn't throw a lot in 2019 and JG was busted arm and hand in 2021, means exactly zero. He doesn't magically become less of a TE when the calendar goes from Week 18 to postseason that's just such a bad take. I mean explain how that works. It's playoffs so he forgets how to play or he is a choker and chokes is that honestly what you are trying to say lol?

I asked what Kittle biggest playoff moments have been. I dont think he is a choker. I think you prioritize finding a way to get a star player the ball more than twice a game in the playoffs. Otherwise whats the point of having said star player. To block? Youre right he doesnt magically become a worse player. Seems like the only reason we scored any points at all this last playoff run was due to Deebo being force fed the ball. We found a way to do that with our bad QB. Find a way to get it to George too is what im saying...yal aint gotta be so protective when the playoff numbers speak for themselves.

the box score is not film of whats happening on the field.

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
This notion of playoff performers is so dumb imo. They said that about Bonds for years. Guy isn't a playoff performer. Whatever that means. Of course in 2002 he crushed the playoffs on an absurd level and that bad playoff take went away. I remember this about Manning also. In college they said he can't win the big one. In the NFL they said he can't win the big one. Then he won the big one.

Kittle had a nice TD in the NFC Champ. Just cuz he hasn't had a game for the ages in his very brief playoff moments when we didn't throw a lot in 2019 and JG was busted arm and hand in 2021, means exactly zero. He doesn't magically become less of a TE when the calendar goes from Week 18 to postseason that's just such a bad take. I mean explain how that works. It's playoffs so he forgets how to play or he is a choker and chokes is that honestly what you are trying to say lol?

I asked what Kittle biggest playoff moments have been. I dont think he is a choker. I think you prioritize finding a way to get a star player the ball more than twice a game in the playoffs. Otherwise whats the point of having said star player. To block? Youre right he doesnt magically become a worse player. Seems like the only reason we scored any points at all this last playoff run was due to Deebo being force fed the ball. We found a way to do that with our bad QB. Find a way to get it to George too is what im saying...yal aint gotta be so protective when the playoff numbers speak for themselves.

Just trying to keep it in perspective.

You find a way to get him the ball when Mostert is tearing GB a new one? Really?

I mean we are 4-2 in the playoffs right? With Kittle? So your gripe is get him the ball more in 2 games. Is that it? This needed it's own thread?

He'd be breaking records, left, right and centre If he was on the Chiefs. Still the best TE In the league.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
This notion of playoff performers is so dumb imo. They said that about Bonds for years. Guy isn't a playoff performer. Whatever that means. Of course in 2002 he crushed the playoffs on an absurd level and that bad playoff take went away. I remember this about Manning also. In college they said he can't win the big one. In the NFL they said he can't win the big one. Then he won the big one.

Kittle had a nice TD in the NFC Champ. Just cuz he hasn't had a game for the ages in his very brief playoff moments when we didn't throw a lot in 2019 and JG was busted arm and hand in 2021, means exactly zero. He doesn't magically become less of a TE when the calendar goes from Week 18 to postseason that's just such a bad take. I mean explain how that works. It's playoffs so he forgets how to play or he is a choker and chokes is that honestly what you are trying to say lol?

I asked what Kittle biggest playoff moments have been. I dont think he is a choker. I think you prioritize finding a way to get a star player the ball more than twice a game in the playoffs. Otherwise whats the point of having said star player. To block? Youre right he doesnt magically become a worse player. Seems like the only reason we scored any points at all this last playoff run was due to Deebo being force fed the ball. We found a way to do that with our bad QB. Find a way to get it to George too is what im saying...yal aint gotta be so protective when the playoff numbers speak for themselves.

Just trying to keep it in perspective.

You find a way to get him the ball when Mostert is tearing GB a new one? Really?

I mean we are 4-2 in the playoffs right? With Kittle? So your gripe is get him the ball more in 2 games. Is that it? This needed it's own thread?

Sure, why not. Its the offseason we are all here to discuss the team. 4-2 in the playoffs with lackluster offensive performances and no super bowl win. Maybe we would have won one if Shanny and Jimmy found a way to let Kittle eat more. But if youre good with his playoff production, shrug

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
This notion of playoff performers is so dumb imo. They said that about Bonds for years. Guy isn't a playoff performer. Whatever that means. Of course in 2002 he crushed the playoffs on an absurd level and that bad playoff take went away. I remember this about Manning also. In college they said he can't win the big one. In the NFL they said he can't win the big one. Then he won the big one.

Kittle had a nice TD in the NFC Champ. Just cuz he hasn't had a game for the ages in his very brief playoff moments when we didn't throw a lot in 2019 and JG was busted arm and hand in 2021, means exactly zero. He doesn't magically become less of a TE when the calendar goes from Week 18 to postseason that's just such a bad take. I mean explain how that works. It's playoffs so he forgets how to play or he is a choker and chokes is that honestly what you are trying to say lol?

I asked what Kittle biggest playoff moments have been. I dont think he is a choker. I think you prioritize finding a way to get a star player the ball more than twice a game in the playoffs. Otherwise whats the point of having said star player. To block? Youre right he doesnt magically become a worse player. Seems like the only reason we scored any points at all this last playoff run was due to Deebo being force fed the ball. We found a way to do that with our bad QB. Find a way to get it to George too is what im saying...yal aint gotta be so protective when the playoff numbers speak for themselves.

Just trying to keep it in perspective.

You find a way to get him the ball when Mostert is tearing GB a new one? Really?

I mean we are 4-2 in the playoffs right? With Kittle? So your gripe is get him the ball more in 2 games. Is that it? This needed it's own thread?

Sure, why not. Its the offseason we are all here to discuss the team. 4-2 in the playoffs with lackluster offensive performances and no super bowl win. Maybe we would have won one if Shanny and Jimmy found a way to let Kittle eat more. But if youre good with his playoff production, shrug

Well I mean look at that SB. 10 point lead entering the 4th. No gripes over here prior to the 4th. Should we have started opening it up and throwing to the TE all 4th with the lead? I guess knowing with hindsight we lost might as well give it a shot, see if it works. But conventional wisdom with a 10 point lead in the 4th is not when Kittle "gets his" so to speak. I hear you though. Just realize it's gonna be a new QB, whole new offense, more downfield passing, more attention to our flankers out wide, more for Kittle to feast imo, will happen.

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Kittle has no control over the passes he gets or doesn't get thrown his way. Am I blaming Jimmy? Yes. Absolutely and without question, 100%.

We already went over this before, but Jimmy has arguably the worst playoff numbers of any Niners QB in a long time.

Can't produce if the quarterback can't get you the ball. That prerequisite I feel gets too easily forgotten. Bottom line is that he dominates when given the ball.

So if he dominates when given the ball wouldnt you say the HC should prioritize getting him the ball especially in the playoffs? Im not here to defend Jimmy we all know what he is but other sus QBs can still get their best player the ball. Jimmy can at least do that much. I think its a combo of things but that production from a supposed superstar just cant happen. Idc who the qb is. Find a way coach!

I think the issue is not that either. I think they do scheme for him but with the idea that he likely gets doubled. Ask Aiyuk how he feels about that..

Jimmy never consistently made teams pay for doubling Kittle in the playoffs on top of frequently missing him wide open. In addition to all this, as much as Kittle likes Jimmy, the outside observer can clearly point to Kittle getting injured twice in the past two seasons as a direct result from bad Jimmy passes.

I don't hate Jimmy G, I think he did a lot of good while here, but for those complaining about Kittle now, look at the all 22, and you'll find that the evidence is overwhelming that Kittle is not at all overpaid for what he brings to the team.