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Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Welp, I guess that's it until July 30th or so.

That's pretty lame. We need some goddamn news.
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Welp, I guess that's it until July 30th or so.

That's pretty lame. We need some goddamn news.

Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

God damn, look at that pad level. Both Bosa's play with textbook forward lean and leverage. I used to joke around that their Dad had a chute set up all over the house to force them to play low. But maybe it's not a joke.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jun 8, 2022 at 6:41 PM ]
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Welp, I guess that's it until July 30th or so.

That's pretty lame. We need some goddamn news.

Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.
Probably wants to avoid injuries and is satisfied by the play of the team so far
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Welp, I guess that's it until July 30th or so.

That's pretty lame. We need some goddamn news.

Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.
Probably wants to avoid injuries and is satisfied by the play of the team so far

This.
  • KiwiM
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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.

He does this every year.

There's too many practices.

Here is what Shanahan said earlier this week.

"I look at the offseason as you're allowed to have 12 practices, nine of them are called OTAs and three are called mini-camp, but I just look at it as 12 practices and I don't think you need 12 practices. I never have. And that's why we've never done 12. I think 11 is the most we've done, but you don't decide that before it starts, you decide that based off of 90 guys, you decide that based off where you think your team is and by the time you get close to 12, I'm always like, 'alright, we've had too much let's stop.' And that's why I usually end up canceling the last day or the last few days. I still don't know where I'm at or our team's at. I don't think we're going to need 12, so I thought it made more sense to move the mini-camp up, get everybody here. We'll see how this week goes and see what we think we need at the end of the week."
Originally posted by KiwiM:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.

He does this every year.

There's too many practices.

Here is what Shanahan said earlier this week.

"I look at the offseason as you're allowed to have 12 practices, nine of them are called OTAs and three are called mini-camp, but I just look at it as 12 practices and I don't think you need 12 practices. I never have. And that's why we've never done 12. I think 11 is the most we've done, but you don't decide that before it starts, you decide that based off of 90 guys, you decide that based off where you think your team is and by the time you get close to 12, I'm always like, 'alright, we've had too much let's stop.' And that's why I usually end up canceling the last day or the last few days. I still don't know where I'm at or our team's at. I don't think we're going to need 12, so I thought it made more sense to move the mini-camp up, get everybody here. We'll see how this week goes and see what we think we need at the end of the week."

Ah, right. That makes sense I guess. Thanks
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Welp, I guess that's it until July 30th or so.

That's pretty lame. We need some goddamn news.

Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.

did he not do the same last year ??
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by KiwiM:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.

He does this every year.

There's too many practices.

Here is what Shanahan said earlier this week.

"I look at the offseason as you're allowed to have 12 practices, nine of them are called OTAs and three are called mini-camp, but I just look at it as 12 practices and I don't think you need 12 practices. I never have. And that's why we've never done 12. I think 11 is the most we've done, but you don't decide that before it starts, you decide that based off of 90 guys, you decide that based off where you think your team is and by the time you get close to 12, I'm always like, 'alright, we've had too much let's stop.' And that's why I usually end up canceling the last day or the last few days. I still don't know where I'm at or our team's at. I don't think we're going to need 12, so I thought it made more sense to move the mini-camp up, get everybody here. We'll see how this week goes and see what we think we need at the end of the week."

Ah, right. That makes sense I guess. Thanks

I never understood this take. His practices are soft enough as they are so he goes less every year? 11 new coaching changes, a new OL and QB, more RB's, CB's, ST, etc. Why would you not take full advantage of every practice available given how limited they already are under the collective bargaining agreement?
Sounds like Matt Maiocco and JLC are stoked on Trey's off season so far; couldn't be better.

Bosa's goal last year was to beat the CB group in body fat. He won. And he's in even BETTER shape now.

Deebo is definitely not in the same shape this time last year for sure. So keep an eye on that esp. at the start of TC.
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by KiwiM:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.

He does this every year.

There's too many practices.

Here is what Shanahan said earlier this week.

"I look at the offseason as you're allowed to have 12 practices, nine of them are called OTAs and three are called mini-camp, but I just look at it as 12 practices and I don't think you need 12 practices. I never have. And that's why we've never done 12. I think 11 is the most we've done, but you don't decide that before it starts, you decide that based off of 90 guys, you decide that based off where you think your team is and by the time you get close to 12, I'm always like, 'alright, we've had too much let's stop.' And that's why I usually end up canceling the last day or the last few days. I still don't know where I'm at or our team's at. I don't think we're going to need 12, so I thought it made more sense to move the mini-camp up, get everybody here. We'll see how this week goes and see what we think we need at the end of the week."

Ah, right. That makes sense I guess. Thanks

I never understood this take. His practices are soft enough as they are so he goes less every year? 11 new coaching changes, a new OL and QB, more RB's, CB's, ST, etc. Why would you not take full advantage of every practice available given how limited they already are under the collective bargaining agreement?

Totally agree. I'd like them to take advantage of the allotted practice time to keep getting better. However, a lot of Kyle's system is mental. Where to be on a certain play, what angle you block a certain run, when to hand off a DLineman if you are blocking him etc... it kind of makes sense to cut practices short if everybody is *mentally* on assignment. You can't really do contacts in OTA's as far as I understand. You can't do tackling for example. So if you can't do tackling and shedding blocks, what good is it to continue practice if everybody knows their assignments mentally? But I get your point, is Kyle too soft on his team? Will this feed into the constant injuries year in and year out because his practices aren't physical enough? I don't know the answer to that. But we shall see this season for sure.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Sounds like Matt Maiocco and JLC are stoked on Trey's off season so far; couldn't be better.

Bosa's goal last year was to beat the CB group in body fat. He won. And he's in even BETTER shape now.

Deebo is definitely not in the same shape this time last year for sure. So keep an eye on that esp. at the start of TC.

Not worried about Deebo. He's mass building and then will cut down before the season. Dude's a tank.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by KiwiM:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.

He does this every year.

There's too many practices.

Here is what Shanahan said earlier this week.

"I look at the offseason as you're allowed to have 12 practices, nine of them are called OTAs and three are called mini-camp, but I just look at it as 12 practices and I don't think you need 12 practices. I never have. And that's why we've never done 12. I think 11 is the most we've done, but you don't decide that before it starts, you decide that based off of 90 guys, you decide that based off where you think your team is and by the time you get close to 12, I'm always like, 'alright, we've had too much let's stop.' And that's why I usually end up canceling the last day or the last few days. I still don't know where I'm at or our team's at. I don't think we're going to need 12, so I thought it made more sense to move the mini-camp up, get everybody here. We'll see how this week goes and see what we think we need at the end of the week."

Ah, right. That makes sense I guess. Thanks

I never understood this take. His practices are soft enough as they are so he goes less every year? 11 new coaching changes, a new OL and QB, more RB's, CB's, ST, etc. Why would you not take full advantage of every practice available given how limited they already are under the collective bargaining agreement?

Totally agree. I'd like them to take advantage of the allotted practice time to keep getting better. However, a lot of Kyle's system is mental. Where to be on a certain play, what angle you block a certain run, when to hand off a DLineman if you are blocking him etc... it kind of makes sense to cut practices short if everybody is *mentally* on assignment. You can't really do contacts in OTA's as far as I understand. You can't do tackling for example. So if you can't do tackling and shedding blocks, what good is it to continue practice if everybody knows their assignments mentally? But I get your point, is Kyle too soft on his team? Will this feed into the constant injuries year in and year out because his practices aren't physical enough? I don't know the answer to that. But we shall see this season for sure.

Over the years the CBA has cut practice times. Everyone wants less practice thinking they'll cut down on injures. I think the opposite has happened. There's a ton of studies on cleats vs grass and turf for injury but there's also studies that show GRF (ground reaction force) while wearing cleats. Simply it's much harder on the body to run in cleats than standard soft sole shoes. IMO these guys don't get enough on field running before the season starts. Which is leading to all the soft tissue injuries.

Every extra practice just running around the field in cleats would benefit any team IMO.
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by KiwiM:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.

He does this every year.

There's too many practices.

Here is what Shanahan said earlier this week.

"I look at the offseason as you're allowed to have 12 practices, nine of them are called OTAs and three are called mini-camp, but I just look at it as 12 practices and I don't think you need 12 practices. I never have. And that's why we've never done 12. I think 11 is the most we've done, but you don't decide that before it starts, you decide that based off of 90 guys, you decide that based off where you think your team is and by the time you get close to 12, I'm always like, 'alright, we've had too much let's stop.' And that's why I usually end up canceling the last day or the last few days. I still don't know where I'm at or our team's at. I don't think we're going to need 12, so I thought it made more sense to move the mini-camp up, get everybody here. We'll see how this week goes and see what we think we need at the end of the week."

Ah, right. That makes sense I guess. Thanks

I never understood this take. His practices are soft enough as they are so he goes less every year? 11 new coaching changes, a new OL and QB, more RB's, CB's, ST, etc. Why would you not take full advantage of every practice available given how limited they already are under the collective bargaining agreement?

Totally agree. I'd like them to take advantage of the allotted practice time to keep getting better. However, a lot of Kyle's system is mental. Where to be on a certain play, what angle you block a certain run, when to hand off a DLineman if you are blocking him etc... it kind of makes sense to cut practices short if everybody is *mentally* on assignment. You can't really do contacts in OTA's as far as I understand. You can't do tackling for example. So if you can't do tackling and shedding blocks, what good is it to continue practice if everybody knows their assignments mentally? But I get your point, is Kyle too soft on his team? Will this feed into the constant injuries year in and year out because his practices aren't physical enough? I don't know the answer to that. But we shall see this season for sure.

Over the years the CBA has cut practice times. Everyone wants less practice thinking they'll cut down on injures. I think the opposite has happened. There's a ton of studies on cleats vs grass and turf for injury but there's also studies that show GRF (ground reaction force) while wearing cleats. Simply it's much harder on the body to run in cleats than standard soft sole shoes. IMO these guys don't get enough on field running before the season starts. Which is leading to all the soft tissue injuries.

Every extra practice just running around the field in cleats would benefit any team IMO.

Good post. I honestly believe Kyle would want to take full advantage of every practice. The more reps Lance and the O-Line receives, the more preparation they'll have heading Into the season. It could be, that Kyle has become paranoid when It comes to Injuries with what happened In 2020. That would explain the conservative approach. "Playing It Safe"
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by KiwiM:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Why would he cancel practice? What's the meaning of this.

He does this every year.

There's too many practices.

Here is what Shanahan said earlier this week.

"I look at the offseason as you're allowed to have 12 practices, nine of them are called OTAs and three are called mini-camp, but I just look at it as 12 practices and I don't think you need 12 practices. I never have. And that's why we've never done 12. I think 11 is the most we've done, but you don't decide that before it starts, you decide that based off of 90 guys, you decide that based off where you think your team is and by the time you get close to 12, I'm always like, 'alright, we've had too much let's stop.' And that's why I usually end up canceling the last day or the last few days. I still don't know where I'm at or our team's at. I don't think we're going to need 12, so I thought it made more sense to move the mini-camp up, get everybody here. We'll see how this week goes and see what we think we need at the end of the week."

Ah, right. That makes sense I guess. Thanks

I never understood this take. His practices are soft enough as they are so he goes less every year? 11 new coaching changes, a new OL and QB, more RB's, CB's, ST, etc. Why would you not take full advantage of every practice available given how limited they already are under the collective bargaining agreement?

Totally agree. I'd like them to take advantage of the allotted practice time to keep getting better. However, a lot of Kyle's system is mental. Where to be on a certain play, what angle you block a certain run, when to hand off a DLineman if you are blocking him etc... it kind of makes sense to cut practices short if everybody is *mentally* on assignment. You can't really do contacts in OTA's as far as I understand. You can't do tackling for example. So if you can't do tackling and shedding blocks, what good is it to continue practice if everybody knows their assignments mentally? But I get your point, is Kyle too soft on his team? Will this feed into the constant injuries year in and year out because his practices aren't physical enough? I don't know the answer to that. But we shall see this season for sure.

Over the years the CBA has cut practice times. Everyone wants less practice thinking they'll cut down on injures. I think the opposite has happened. There's a ton of studies on cleats vs grass and turf for injury but there's also studies that show GRF (ground reaction force) while wearing cleats. Simply it's much harder on the body to run in cleats than standard soft sole shoes. IMO these guys don't get enough on field running before the season starts. Which is leading to all the soft tissue injuries.

Every extra practice just running around the field in cleats would benefit any team IMO.

Good post. I honestly believe Kyle would want to take full advantage of every practice. The more reps Lance and the O-Line receives, the more preparation they'll have heading Into the season. It could be, that Kyle has become paranoid when It comes to Injuries with what happened In 2020. That would explain the conservative approach. "Playing It Safe"

PLAYING IT SAFE... or he just got lazy... If he worries about players getting hurt by just practicing (no hitting) then he should just use this style all year long..

Wade Phillips once did that with the Broncos and they were SOFT all year..
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