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Drake Jackson-DE-USC, 2nd Round 2022 Draft

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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by 49erF90:
Jed York has the final say in every player acquisition especially when it involves high profile players. If the article is true about how challenging it was for Lynch and Shanahan to sell the bidding for Javon Hargrave, then I don't think they'll be going for either Hunter or Young. In my opinion, team is expecting Drake Jackson to be a great contributor this year.

It didn't sound like it was a hard sell at all.

Exactly. Jed told them if they are going to spend money, get a real impact player. Get the guy. What article did you read @ 49erF90?
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by elguapo:
I can't believe this guy is that quick and that bendy when he has no cuts on his body and looks kind of fat. He bulked up but he still looks fat, his arms don't have any cuts, I bet he has a little bit of a gut still but as long as he kicks ass no big deal.

I am very very shocked he just Now hit three plates on each side of the bench press. I was able to do that when I was 20 years old weighing 175 pounds so this guy does not impress me with his strength in the very least. This guy should be hitting 4 plates. He does need upper body strength to hold up against the run and get around some of these tackles.

On a similar note he gained what 13-15 lbs ? I was thinking on a frame his size, that's it ? If he picked up 25-30 lbs and kept low body fat like Bosa that would be impressive. But 13lbs is something the average male should pick up with a good training and nutrition program.

25-30 lbs. in 3 1/2 months? What are you smoking?

Thank you.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
LLooking back you can see how his combination of strength motor and Agility provided the blueprint for the undersized athletic Edge rushers of the 80s. Some of these highlights it surprising to see such a slender hip guy bull through offensive lineman on one play, then lay out to bring down a running back in space. A deceptively strong tenacious and quick reacting lineman who is deservedly in the Hall of Fame.


Watch these highlights. In the regular season game the Super Bowl year against Cincinnati, Dean picked Munoz up with ONE ARM and tossed him to the side! The regular season game against the Cowboys, which the Niners won 45-14, that defense swarmed that Cowboys offense and made Danny White cry! From what I heard out of San Diego was that Dean NEVER lifted weights! He also smoked cigarettes! He was just a quick, strong, twitchy guy who loved sacking QB's. Famous quote from Dean when he came back after a holdout with the Niners when he shook Montana's hand "I hadn't touched a quarterback in so long, I wanted to sack him".
Dean was a freak. Not like Taylor 6'4" 245 lb gymnast. But super strong core which let him turn and accelerate on a dime. Watch him turn the corner and burst with a half stride, vertical as a board. That's plain weird. The same core tension let him throw 285 lb munoz like a smurf. His leverage goes past lower back down to his ankles. With a six foot lever its easy to McGlinch a guy weighing 60 pounds more than you. Never fully appreciated. Thankfully, got his jacket.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by 49erF90:
Jed York has the final say in every player acquisition especially when it involves high profile players. If the article is true about how challenging it was for Lynch and Shanahan to sell the bidding for Javon Hargrave, then I don't think they'll be going for either Hunter or Young. In my opinion, team is expecting Drake Jackson to be a great contributor this year.

It didn't sound like it was a hard sell at all.

Exactly. Jed told them if they are going to spend money, get a real impact player. Get the guy. What article did you read @ 49erF90?

I get it. I didn't say it was a hard sell. I apologize if I kinda put it that way. What I said was, "it was challenging" for Lynch. He said in the article, "I felt like I was asking a girl on a date," Lynch admitted. "[I told Kyle], 'Okay, here's how I'm going to start the meeting. Kyle [said], 'No, don't do it that way. Do it this way.' And I was basically going to father confession asking for money. And I said, 'Jed, like, it'd be a shame, with this team, to sit on the sidelines [during free agency].' And Jed stopped me. He said, 'Make sure it's a difference maker.' And I said, 'Okay, well, we're on the same page because we got one for you." So I think because the roster is already stacked and there's so many players already getting top money and there's more players that are due for top money, bidding for another high caliber free agent player is becoming more challenging for Lynch to ask Jed for the go signal. I maybe not 100 percent correct but it's just my two cents.
Originally posted by 49erF90:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by 49erF90:
Jed York has the final say in every player acquisition especially when it involves high profile players. If the article is true about how challenging it was for Lynch and Shanahan to sell the bidding for Javon Hargrave, then I don't think they'll be going for either Hunter or Young. In my opinion, team is expecting Drake Jackson to be a great contributor this year.

It didn't sound like it was a hard sell at all.

Exactly. Jed told them if they are going to spend money, get a real impact player. Get the guy. What article did you read @ 49erF90?

I get it. I didn't say it was a hard sell. I apologize if I kinda put it that way. What I said was, "it was challenging" for Lynch. He said in the article, "I felt like I was asking a girl on a date," Lynch admitted. "[I told Kyle], 'Okay, here's how I'm going to start the meeting. Kyle [said], 'No, don't do it that way. Do it this way.' And I was basically going to father confession asking for money. And I said, 'Jed, like, it'd be a shame, with this team, to sit on the sidelines [during free agency].' And Jed stopped me. He said, 'Make sure it's a difference maker.' And I said, 'Okay, well, we're on the same page because we got one for you." So I think because the roster is already stacked and there's so many players already getting top money and there's more players that are due for top money, bidding for another high caliber free agent player is becoming more challenging for Lynch to ask Jed for the go signal. I maybe not 100 percent correct but it's just my two cents.

Damn, it must suck having to kiss the ring of a trust fund baby.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Some of the HOF guys listed Haley, Dean, LT played during a different era when the OL average weights were in the 260lb range. Players seem to have gotten bigger on average on that side of the line more than the defensive side. There's always the outlier NT. DEs or LBs playing an end can utilize speed and technique, or a relentless motor to get the QB.

I'm with you until the exaggeration becomes this extreme. This simply isin't true.



Today that 300 lbs is in the 314ish range if you go and check.

It's been a constant theme in a number of threads lately to make the 1990's seem like the 1960's. It was awhile ago but we're getting a little extreme with the "back in the days" takes.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Some of the HOF guys listed Haley, Dean, LT played during a different era when the OL average weights were in the 260lb range. Players seem to have gotten bigger on average on that side of the line more than the defensive side. There's always the outlier NT. DEs or LBs playing an end can utilize speed and technique, or a relentless motor to get the QB.

I'm with you until the exaggeration becomes this extreme. This simply isin't true.



Today that 300 lbs is in the 314ish range if you go and check.

It's been a constant theme in a number of threads lately to make the 1990's seem like the 1960's. It was awhile ago but we're getting a little extreme with the "back in the days" takes.

You're right they were pretty big already in the 90s.

Here's a good reference with charts per position

https://medium.com/@mscp/offensive-lineman-size-in-the-super-bowl-era-a654f4351954
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by elguapo:
I can't believe this guy is that quick and that bendy when he has no cuts on his body and looks kind of fat. He bulked up but he still looks fat, his arms don't have any cuts, I bet he has a little bit of a gut still but as long as he kicks ass no big deal.

I am very very shocked he just Now hit three plates on each side of the bench press. I was able to do that when I was 20 years old weighing 175 pounds so this guy does not impress me with his strength in the very least. This guy should be hitting 4 plates. He does need upper body strength to hold up against the run and get around some of these tackles.

Sure there's a lot of elguapos in the gym that focus on that one thing. Bench press. There's a lot of normal dudes who can bench a lot in this world. They are not world class athletes that focus on every other area of their game. And how many times did drake put up 315? Was it once or 20 times? I honestly don't know. I do know he showed some great flashes last season

I know plenty of fat f**ks who can bench a lot but can't do a proper pull up or squat at all. Forget about the conditioning.

I'm all bench no squat. LFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Really hope Drake shows up big time this year and so do the rest of our guys.

Saw this earlier and it kind of shocked me not to see 49ers considered a top 5 pass rush unit. I didn't hear the show to know the criteria they used but considering we added Hargrave to a line with Bosa and Armstead…yeah I don't get it.


I'm sure they don't trust Drake or our depth but still crazy to me given our success with this coaching staff and Bosa doing what he's been doing.
Originally posted by genus49:
Really hope Drake shows up big time this year and so do the rest of our guys.

Saw this earlier and it kind of shocked me not to see 49ers considered a top 5 pass rush unit. I didn't hear the show to know the criteria they used but considering we added Hargrave to a line with Bosa and Armstead…yeah I don't get it.


I'm sure they don't trust Drake or our depth but still crazy to me given our success with this coaching staff and Bosa doing what he's been doing.

I think the Bills have a giant red flag / fork in the back of their highly paid pass rusher, Von Miller. Dude is a legend, but is also 34 and coming off an acl. Usually that first year back from an acl, you aren't at 100%. Chance he's not ready to start the season. Bills starting to be very overhyped / rated.
Originally posted by genus49:
Really hope Drake shows up big time this year and so do the rest of our guys.

Saw this earlier and it kind of shocked me not to see 49ers considered a top 5 pass rush unit. I didn't hear the show to know the criteria they used but considering we added Hargrave to a line with Bosa and Armstead…yeah I don't get it.


I'm sure they don't trust Drake or our depth but still crazy to me given our success with this coaching staff and Bosa doing what he's been doing.

John's gotta add that proven veteran opposite Bosa, would be my guess before they see this DL as #1.

That said, we'll see. Philly's pass rush is not the same historic unit from last year.

I'm looking forward to our OL playing Pittsburgh right out of the gate. Great test to see how far this unit has grown. And likewise for our new pass rush!
[ Edited by NCommand on Jul 11, 2023 at 8:03 AM ]
Makes sense to me. Not sure why anybody would trust Drake until we see it. And the Niners depth ad DE last year was average at best. And on paper it doesn't look all that great right now. Hopefully Drake and another guy emerges. I'm still waiting on them to sing that vet pass rusher
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by genus49:
Really hope Drake shows up big time this year and so do the rest of our guys.

Saw this earlier and it kind of shocked me not to see 49ers considered a top 5 pass rush unit. I didn't hear the show to know the criteria they used but considering we added Hargrave to a line with Bosa and Armstead…yeah I don't get it.


I'm sure they don't trust Drake or our depth but still crazy to me given our success with this coaching staff and Bosa doing what he's been doing.

John's gotta add that proven veteran opposite Bosa, would be my guess before they see this DL as #1.

That said, we'll see. Philly's pass rush is not the same historic unit from last year.

I'm looking forward to our OL playing Pittsburgh right out of the gate. Great test to see how far this unit has grown. And likewise for our new pass rush!

Yeah Pittsburgh will be a great test for both lines out of the gate. Hopefully we don't come in sloppy like last season and weather won't be a factor so it can be a proper evaluation.
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Like I said before, all he needs to do is get 5 sacks and a PLETHORA of pressures to replace the pass rush of Ekubam

If I'm not mistaken Ekubam was once the top edge in run support as well.

That's why I specifically said replacing the pass rush of Ekubam which shouldn't be hard at all. He has never had over 5 sacks which is average at best. Possibly below average with our DL

Ebukam's career highlight is that Chiefs/Rams game in 2018 where I believe he had two TDs.
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