Drake Jackson-DE-USC, 2nd Round 2022 Draft

Originally posted by Garce:

Breakout is on

i was wrong

Originally posted by Garce:

Originally posted by Garce:
Breakout is on

i was wrong

From 3 sacks in week 1 to 3rd string in week 10.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Jackson is still raw. He's only 22 and has been on the field for about 1/3 of the team's snaps. It may be too soon to cut him loose when he's still on that rookie contract. If you draft players that you know are raw and need to be coached up then you have to be patient and work with them.

He's only 22 but shows no signs of improvement. Typically, guys who eventually break out show glimpses of their potential along the way. Drake shows nothing.

What we don't know is how much work he gets in practice. He's only seen the field about a third of the time. Is he getting the work he needs in practice? I don't know but like I said if you draft a raw player you need to be prepared to spend time with him. If not then don't draft them. This idea that players will magically be a lot better in year 2 is crazy. Some improve but a lot actually regress.

This is why I'm in favor of a true developmental league. Practice squad players can be picked up by other teams so it hurts your ability to develop a player. Trey Lance would have been perfect fora developmental league. He obviously wasn't ready but the NFL as currently constructed doesn't allow good teams to develop future talent. If they're in a win now mode then they can't play these guys.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Jackson is still raw. He's only 22 and has been on the field for about 1/3 of the team's snaps. It may be too soon to cut him loose when he's still on that rookie contract. If you draft players that you know are raw and need to be coached up then you have to be patient and work with them.

He's only 22 but shows no signs of improvement. Typically, guys who eventually break out show glimpses of their potential along the way. Drake shows nothing.

Hero, we're using zero stunts through 8 weeks. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I don't remember any. Jackson could have an Arden Key type season, but he's asked to continually rush straight up. That's not going to be the way Jackson wins… ever. He's basically useless with this scheme.

Originally posted by thl408:
From 3 sacks in week 1 to 3rd string in week 10.

Week 10!!!!!! WTF!!!??!!! How can the season feel so long and so short at the same time lol.

It's crazy how fast the weeks of the NFL season fly by.

I am very pro Drake, but the dude had opportunity. It might not have been ideal being in one of the most disjointed 49ers defenses in recent memory...but he had opportunity.

What I don't think is Drake or Ferrel are the root of the issues with this defense.... I hope they overhaul the hell out of it this week and in two weeks we are talking about how great Chase Young is and dreaming of deep post seasons runs again.

I was pretty positive about Wilks, but I honestly thought you could not screw up this much talent. No dude with years of NFL coaching experience could screw up this much talent. Now...I dunno man.... you could add prime Reggie White and stilll be screwed up with this defensive system.

Imagine if there was AVERAGE talent on this team or below average but not terrible talent. Zero doubt this would be the worst defense in the league.

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by thl408:
From 3 sacks in week 1 to 3rd string in week 10.

Week 10!!!!!! WTF!!!??!!! How can the season feel so long and so short at the same time lol.

It's crazy how fast the weeks of the NFL season fly by.

It's actually week 9 right now, but by the time the 49ers play again in week 10, Drake will be a 3rd stringer.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Hero, we're using zero stunts through 8 weeks. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I don't remember any. Jackson could have an Arden Key type season, but he's asked to continually rush straight up. That's not going to be the way Jackson wins… ever. He's basically useless with this scheme.

I see a number of stunts being dialed up. I just don't think they're very effective unless they're used as a change up or against a OL with poor communication(ie backups in). Drake Jackson's only success has come on stunts, so when guys see that on film, they know what to sit on because he's not going to beat them 1-on-1. At the end of the day, pass rushing is about winning 1-on-1. If you can't do that, you can't rush the passer.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Hero, we're using zero stunts through 8 weeks. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I don't remember any. Jackson could have an Arden Key type season, but he's asked to continually rush straight up. That's not going to be the way Jackson wins… ever. He's basically useless with this scheme.

I see a number of stunts being dialed up. I just don't think they're very effective unless they're used as a change up or against a OL with poor communication(ie backups in). Drake Jackson's only success has come on stunts, so when guys see that on film, they know what to sit on because he's not going to beat them 1-on-1. At the end of the day, pass rushing is about winning 1-on-1. If you can't do that, you can't rush the passer.

Oh I'm not saying he's played well enough to earn time, or that he's as effective as Key was. I'm just saying we've diminished his skillset with our scheme, to the point where he shouldn't even be on the field. It's a shame because players can improve, but Jackson is more likely to be cut than have a resurgence under this DC.

Ultimately players are responsible for winning their matchups, I agree, but we can't even remotely mask his deficiencies in this defense and it's upsetting.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Oh I'm not saying he's played well enough to earn time, or that he's as effective as Key was. I'm just saying we've diminished his skillset with our scheme, to the point where he shouldn't even be on the field. It's a shame because players can improve, but Jackson is more likely to be cut than have a resurgence under this DC.

Ultimately players are responsible for winning their matchups, I agree, but we can't even remotely mask his deficiencies in this defense and it's upsetting.

Yeah, I feel you. You know what really sucks for the front office is that they said they had 2 edge rushers on the board they wanted with pick 61 in 2022. One of them obviously was Drake Jackson, and the other I'm assuming was Nik Bonitto. I've only watched him a few times, but Bonitto is a far better player than Drake.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Oh I'm not saying he's played well enough to earn time, or that he's as effective as Key was. I'm just saying we've diminished his skillset with our scheme, to the point where he shouldn't even be on the field. It's a shame because players can improve, but Jackson is more likely to be cut than have a resurgence under this DC.

Ultimately players are responsible for winning their matchups, I agree, but we can't even remotely mask his deficiencies in this defense and it's upsetting.

Yeah, I feel you. You know what really sucks for the front office is that they said they had 2 edge rushers on the board they wanted with pick 61 in 2022. One of them obviously was Drake Jackson, and the other I'm assuming was Nik Bonitto. I've only watched him a few times, but Bonitto is a far better player than Drake.

I was definitely on the Bonnito bandwagon. :/

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I don't know if the numbers reflect it, but it felt like Drake had more snaps than normal last week. Of course, he didn't do anything, but I wonder if he's about to get traded/released.

I doubt it. But he might not be active. Its really between Ferrell and Jackson.

CF is actually playing better. Guess they hold on to Drake just b/c at this point. But time to wash him off the roster. Don't let him just waste a roster spot for year like Kinlaw. I mean they just traded for 2 guys at his position. Cut bait and move on.

I'm willing to give him time. Our best defensive lineman hasn't played well. Surely we can forgive Drake Jackson if Nick Bosa and AA have taken huge steps backwards.

To me it's the scheme and play calling. Bosa had a slow start but he's just executing the plays as they're called.

90% of this is on Wilks IMO.

Exactly. Short of Ambry Thomas (no track record of success), I'm forgiving just about every defensive player. They didn't just forget how to play football.

That's a fair point but Wilks is getting too much of the blame and the players aren't getting enough. I was watching jonnydel's youtube live breakdown yesterday and we have players on defense who just keep making bone head mistakes leading to big plays.

Originally posted by Patton:
Week 10!!!!!! WTF!!!??!!! How can the season feel so long and so short at the same time lol.

It's crazy how fast the weeks of the NFL season fly by.

Time flies when losing streak lol

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Patton:
Week 10!!!!!! WTF!!!??!!! How can the season feel so long and so short at the same time lol.

It's crazy how fast the weeks of the NFL season fly by.

Time flies when losing streak lol

it's been the opposite.. s**t is depressing

neither ferrel or jackson have been a disaster. but jackson was supposed to be breakout.

not this year