QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by fropwns:

You can't earn it if you cannot play. Think of it this way, we can argue that the reason we got where we were was in part Brock. And we can further extrapolate that had Brock played and not been injured we would have beaten the Eagles and earned the Super Bowl. Thus, he already earned the starting nod long before he got hurt.

Ok first, in no known universe can we assume or "extrapolate" that we would have won that game if Brock wasn't injured. Second, you would have to see how well or poorly he played in that game AND the Super Bowl to determine his right to have the starting nod.

Purdy came out in the NFCCG throwing strikes and was about to hit Aiyuk for a big gain. Hurts threw for 90 yards if you take away the Smith drop lol. It was actually a game until JJ fumbled which is a testament to how much better we were than them. After that fumble our defense knew it was over. They fueled their offense with penalties from the frustration. Their defense wore us down in the trenches because they knew we couldn't pass.

It's a completely different game with Brock. We all remember him getting blown the f**k up on the first play of his first start. Even though it's a popular take amongst analysts, Brock getting hit in the first series isn't a sign that we were going to get dominated, and the Tampa game proved that.

This talk of needing to win the SB to earn the starting job is so incredibly stupid lol. With this logic the only QBs with the right to start next year are Foles, Mahomes, Russ, Flacco and Stafford lol. If we don't grab one of those guys we have to forfeit the season since our QBs have yet to earn a starting job lol

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
This talk of needing to win the SB to earn the starting job is so incredibly stupid lol. With this logic the only QBs with the right to start next year are Foles, Mahomes, Russ, Flacco and Stafford lol. If we don't grab one of those guys we have to forfeit the season since our QBs have yet to earn a starting job lol

Indeed! Talk about how hard it is for a coach to win a SB. Talk about how Trey just getting to the playoffs is a plus because once you're in anything can happen. But Brock had to win it all to keep his job.

GTFOH

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

This talk of needing to win the SB to earn the starting job is so incredibly stupid lol. With this logic the only QBs with the right to start next year are Foles, Mahomes, Russ, Flacco and Stafford lol. If we don't grab one of those guys we have to forfeit the season since our QBs have yet to earn a starting job lol

Indeed! Talk about how hard it is for a coach to win a SB. Talk about how Trey just getting to the playoffs is a plus because once you're in anything can happen. But Brock had to win it all to keep his job.

GTFOH

It's illogical. Using this logic the only way a QB can earn a starting job is by replacing an injured SB winning QB, and winning the SB himself that year.

And the injured starter would have had to earn the job the same way lol. You are not a starter until you win a SB lol basically there would have never been a starting QB if you had to win a SB to earn a starting job

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by fropwns:
You can't earn it if you cannot play. Think of it this way, we can argue that the reason we got where we were was in part Brock. And we can further extrapolate that had Brock played and not been injured we would have beaten the Eagles and earned the Super Bowl. Thus, he already earned the starting nod long before he got hurt.

Ok first, in no known universe can we assume or "extrapolate" that we would have won that game if Brock wasn't injured. Second, you would have to see how well or poorly he played in that game AND the Super Bowl to determine his right to have the starting nod.

Purdy came out in the NFCCG throwing strikes and was about to hit Aiyuk for a big gain. Hurts threw for 90 yards if you take away the Smith drop lol. It was actually a game until JJ fumbled which is a testament to how much better we were than them. After that fumble our defense knew it was over. They fueled their offense with penalties from the frustration. Their defense wore us down in the trenches because they knew we couldn't pass.

It's a completely different game with Brock. We all remember him getting blown the f**k up on the first play of his first start. Even though it's a popular take amongst analysts, Brock getting hit in the first series isn't a sign that we were going to get dominated, and the Tampa game proved that.

You mean on the play where he fumbled the ball to the other team? That's not exactly a good sign that we were destined to win that game. And throwing strikes? He had 23 yards passing in two drives before his injury.

We might have won that game if he stayed healthy. Far from guaranteed. The defense was mostly playing well up to that point, but the offense was questionable (as they were against the Cowboys.)

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

You mean on the play where he fumbled the ball to the other team? That's not exactly a good sign that we were destined to win that game. And throwing strikes? He had 23 yards passing in two drives before his injury.

We might have won that game if he stayed healthy. Far from guaranteed. The defense was mostly playing well up to that point, but the offense was questionable (as they were against the Cowboys.)

He was in his throwing motion so yea the ball came loose lol but the Tampa hit was harder honestly, and he went on to whoop their asses. Same thing would have happened to the Eagles

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by fropwns:
You can't earn it if you cannot play. Think of it this way, we can argue that the reason we got where we were was in part Brock. And we can further extrapolate that had Brock played and not been injured we would have beaten the Eagles and earned the Super Bowl. Thus, he already earned the starting nod long before he got hurt.

Ok first, in no known universe can we assume or "extrapolate" that we would have won that game if Brock wasn't injured. Second, you would have to see how well or poorly he played in that game AND the Super Bowl to determine his right to have the starting nod.

Purdy came out in the NFCCG throwing strikes and was about to hit Aiyuk for a big gain. Hurts threw for 90 yards if you take away the Smith drop lol. It was actually a game until JJ fumbled which is a testament to how much better we were than them. After that fumble our defense knew it was over. They fueled their offense with penalties from the frustration. Their defense wore us down in the trenches because they knew we couldn't pass.

It's a completely different game with Brock. We all remember him getting blown the f**k up on the first play of his first start. Even though it's a popular take amongst analysts, Brock getting hit in the first series isn't a sign that we were going to get dominated, and the Tampa game proved that.

You mean on the play where he fumbled the ball to the other team? That's not exactly a good sign that we were destined to win that game. And throwing strikes? He had 23 yards passing in two drives before his injury.

We might have won that game if he stayed healthy. Far from guaranteed. The defense was mostly playing well up to that point, but the offense was questionable (as they were against the Cowboys.)

That is factually incorrect.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by fropwns:
You can't earn it if you cannot play. Think of it this way, we can argue that the reason we got where we were was in part Brock. And we can further extrapolate that had Brock played and not been injured we would have beaten the Eagles and earned the Super Bowl. Thus, he already earned the starting nod long before he got hurt.

Ok first, in no known universe can we assume or "extrapolate" that we would have won that game if Brock wasn't injured. Second, you would have to see how well or poorly he played in that game AND the Super Bowl to determine his right to have the starting nod.

Purdy came out in the NFCCG throwing strikes and was about to hit Aiyuk for a big gain. Hurts threw for 90 yards if you take away the Smith drop lol. It was actually a game until JJ fumbled which is a testament to how much better we were than them. After that fumble our defense knew it was over. They fueled their offense with penalties from the frustration. Their defense wore us down in the trenches because they knew we couldn't pass.

It's a completely different game with Brock. We all remember him getting blown the f**k up on the first play of his first start. Even though it's a popular take amongst analysts, Brock getting hit in the first series isn't a sign that we were going to get dominated, and the Tampa game proved that.

You mean on the play where he fumbled the ball to the other team? That's not exactly a good sign that we were destined to win that game. And throwing strikes? He had 23 yards passing in two drives before his injury.

We might have won that game if he stayed healthy. Far from guaranteed. The defense was mostly playing well up to that point, but the offense was questionable (as they were against the Cowboys.)

That is factually incorrect.

Sorry, you're right. It was on the first drive he got injured. I misremembered. The point remains that we can't assume we were going to win that game.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by fropwns:

You can't earn it if you cannot play. Think of it this way, we can argue that the reason we got where we were was in part Brock. And we can further extrapolate that had Brock played and not been injured we would have beaten the Eagles and earned the Super Bowl. Thus, he already earned the starting nod long before he got hurt.

Ok first, in no known universe can we assume or "extrapolate" that we would have won that game if Brock wasn't injured. Second, you would have to see how well or poorly he played in that game AND the Super Bowl to determine his right to have the starting nod.

Purdy came out in the NFCCG throwing strikes and was about to hit Aiyuk for a big gain. Hurts threw for 90 yards if you take away the Smith drop lol. It was actually a game until JJ fumbled which is a testament to how much better we were than them. After that fumble our defense knew it was over. They fueled their offense with penalties from the frustration. Their defense wore us down in the trenches because they knew we couldn't pass.

It's a completely different game with Brock. We all remember him getting blown the f**k up on the first play of his first start. Even though it's a popular take amongst analysts, Brock getting hit in the first series isn't a sign that we were going to get dominated, and the Tampa game proved that.

You mean on the play where he fumbled the ball to the other team? That's not exactly a good sign that we were destined to win that game. And throwing strikes? He had 23 yards passing in two drives before his injury.

We might have won that game if he stayed healthy. Far from guaranteed. The defense was mostly playing well up to that point, but the offense was questionable (as they were against the Cowboys.)

That is factually incorrect.

Yea he was about to be 3 for 3 with a big gain to Aiyuk in the first drive if protection held up a tic longer.

Brock was going to tear that secondary up. They really weren't that good

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by fropwns:
You can't earn it if you cannot play. Think of it this way, we can argue that the reason we got where we were was in part Brock. And we can further extrapolate that had Brock played and not been injured we would have beaten the Eagles and earned the Super Bowl. Thus, he already earned the starting nod long before he got hurt.

Ok first, in no known universe can we assume or "extrapolate" that we would have won that game if Brock wasn't injured. Second, you would have to see how well or poorly he played in that game AND the Super Bowl to determine his right to have the starting nod.

Purdy came out in the NFCCG throwing strikes and was about to hit Aiyuk for a big gain. Hurts threw for 90 yards if you take away the Smith drop lol. It was actually a game until JJ fumbled which is a testament to how much better we were than them. After that fumble our defense knew it was over. They fueled their offense with penalties from the frustration. Their defense wore us down in the trenches because they knew we couldn't pass.

It's a completely different game with Brock. We all remember him getting blown the f**k up on the first play of his first start. Even though it's a popular take amongst analysts, Brock getting hit in the first series isn't a sign that we were going to get dominated, and the Tampa game proved that.

You mean on the play where he fumbled the ball to the other team? That's not exactly a good sign that we were destined to win that game. And throwing strikes? He had 23 yards passing in two drives before his injury.

We might have won that game if he stayed healthy. Far from guaranteed. The defense was mostly playing well up to that point, but the offense was questionable (as they were against the Cowboys.)

That is factually incorrect.

Sorry, you're right. It was on the first drive he got injured. I misremembered. The point remains that we can't assume we were going to win that game.

I agree with your point. But it should have been a very closely contested game since the teams were so evenly matched.

We know via Kyle's play calls that he trusts Brock far more than he has anybody else in his six seasons here. With Brock, he feels free to call pass play and take advantage of vunerabilities that he Never would call with any other quarterback here so far. For the first time, he can call a game like he wants to to win the dang thing.

Trey Lance will get almost all the first team reps all offseason, so he'll have a great chance to improve all aspects of his game. But let's be real here. He has a long way to go to make Kyle have equal trust in him over Brock, and without the opportunity to prove himself under live bullet fire in games that count until the start of the season (if then), it's going to be a high hurdle. People think if Lance wins early, you can't take him out. I think if Kyle is uncomfortable calling a pass play deep in his own territory with the game on the line, when he thinks a big play is there for the taking, Kyle will make the change.

Lance will get the chance to show his worth, but the most likely scenario is that it will happen when Brock gets nicked during the next two years. A couple of hard fought up and down games where some stars make plays to pull it out is not going to change that.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by ubaisore:
Kind of confused at all of the "brock is a good backup to Trey" talk. So far, it has been beyond clear who is more ready to win in the NFL. IT would take Trey looking better than Purdy did last season to have a controversy. And i hope he does, but to think that is probable is just not being realistic

Its the posters that are in denial that trey isn't who they thought he was when he was drafted.

Trey will start the year and if he's winning Kyle is going to continue to develop him and stick with him. If he's losing Kyle will abandon ship and move to Brock. There's a significant investment in Trey and Brock is about to do rehab and then get reacclimated into action

Trey stans are funny.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
This talk of needing to win the SB to earn the starting job is so incredibly stupid lol. With this logic the only QBs with the right to start next year are Foles, Mahomes, Russ, Flacco and Stafford lol. If we don't grab one of those guys we have to forfeit the season since our QBs have yet to earn a starting job lol

Man you can save the stupid talk and stick to the point. I've said all along that in order to deny Trey this offseason even the opportunity to compete for QB1 which some of you are jerking off at the idea of, Brock would've had to win the Super Bowl

Without a Super Bowl win I knew there would be a competition if not only for optics, but Trey and Brock were gonna duke it out this summer with Brock getting the first reps. Had Brock won it all, Trey would've been told to sit and assume his role just like Jimmy Ward was

I said this in season and even up til now. I've also said that Trey will be QB1 until he loses it because now Brock is rehabbing.

I think it's good we have Trey healthy and Brock recovering in time for the season so we have two starters and if Trey screws up we don't need an expensive vet. We have our answer on the roster assuming his rehab goes to plan

It is the anti Trey gang that is perplexing me. I can't quite put my finger on the issue with Trey and what's wrong with the 22 year old. I'm going to have to consult my references to find the answer as to why so many hold such contempt for him

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's illogical. Using this logic the only way a QB can earn a starting job is by replacing an injured SB winning QB, and winning the SB himself that year.

And the injured starter would have had to earn the job the same way lol. You are not a starter until you win a SB lol basically there would have never been a starting QB if you had to win a SB to earn a starting job

We don't want a starter. We had one in Jimmy and we moved off of him. We want a Super Bowl winner. To be Brady and sit a high draft pick QB no questions asked no competition to be had Brock needed to win out. Since he didn't we have a competition. Eight games doesn't quarantee the job. If so Jimmy would be here under contract. Trey won't even stay as starter if he doesn't do well in his day 8 games of however long he gets his run because we have Brock

We are gonna be relentless and ruthless at the position until we win out. Nobody will be gifted the position and no favorites will be played. If Trey is winning he sticks and if he's losing Brock will be in. If one wins out that's the franchise and the other will finish their contract with us or get traded for a nice haul whichever is deemed best for the team

Once again. Jimmy was a winner but just not to our standard after so many years. Trey or Brock may be but they're both gonna get that chance now to prove it. But you guys wanna gift Brock the job right now injured no questions asked and no reps for Trey because Brock is good enough for us to trade or sit Trey today even if Brock is still rehabbing

Under these circumstances both guys should be given their chances and if healthy Brock would've been in the lead. And I still think Trey can easily be better than Jalen Hurts given time