QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
We know via Kyle's play calls that he trusts Brock far more than he has anybody else in his six seasons here. With Brock, he feels free to call pass play and take advantage of vunerabilities that he Never would call with any other quarterback here so far. For the first time, he can call a game like he wants to to win the dang thing.

Trey Lance will get almost all the first team reps all offseason, so he'll have a great chance to improve all aspects of his game. But let's be real here. He has a long way to go to make Kyle have equal trust in him over Brock, and without the opportunity to prove himself under live bullet fire in games that count until the start of the season (if then), it's going to be a high hurdle. People think if Lance wins early, you can't take him out. I think if Kyle is uncomfortable calling a pass play deep in his own territory with the game on the line, when he thinks a big play is there for the taking, Kyle will make the change.

Lance will get the chance to show his worth, but the most likely scenario is that it will happen when Brock gets nicked during the next two years. A couple of hard fought up and down games where some stars make plays to pull it out is not going to change that.

Nope. I saw us win with Jimmy and I know we can win with Trey. There's this little thing card CMC and the matter of leading the league in rushing and explosive plays.

Just watch

We will lose more games with Trey. Jimmy was winning long before CMC got here. Brock can and will win. Trey has proven to lose. When Brock is healthy and ready to play he is the starter.

The injury is almost a blessing in disguise.. while B-Rocks rehab and/or rest, we'll get to see what the future lies with Baby Face.. the pressure is for him to perform this year because of what 13 did last year...

don't get me wrong, B-Rocks 7 wins last year don't mean a thing yet..

Likely Trey will be the starter in the beginning of the season because Brock won't be fully healthy yet. Also likely to not play well. Brock will be the starter when he is back and healthy which will be around October I would say.

Quit acting like you're Miss Cleo and can predict the future. You have no clue how Trey will perform. None.

I've seen him play.

You're basing such a strong opinion on a single game played in a lake. It makes sense that you can't comprehend the stupidity of it all.

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by BSofSF:
Brock Purdy EARNED the starting job. He performed at a high level in important games and in the playoffs. The players in the locker room as much as said it at the end of the season. I disagree with the notion that it's Trey's team unless/until he loses. The Niners starting QB has revealed himself, and it is Brock Purdy. Yes, Lance will get all of the offseason reps and will maybe start the first couple of games as Purdy rehabs, but the comparison of the two players was plain to see, draft status be damned.

What you're not understanding is Brock will not be cleared to play til around week 1. Clear to throw 3 months in. So Brock having no time with the 1s just walks in and starts? He's not Rodgers or Brady.

What am I not understanding? Did you watch last season? Brock Purdy stepped into the starting lineup with no time with the 1s. He proceeded to win every game he played in and was convincingly the best QB on the roster last year. He played better than Brady, who missed the playoffs and was defeated head-to-head, and he probably was playing better than Rodgers also, who also missed the playoffs. Purdy was simply executing the Shanahan offense at a high level, had lightning quick reads and reactions, and a pretty good sense of pressure in the pocket. He's undersized and doesn't have the strongest arm, so he slipped in the draft, but it was very apparent to anyone with two eyes and an unbiased mind that he was the best QB on our team. Had he remained healthy I believe we would have been in the Super Bowl with a legitimate chance to win it. When he is cleared, he should start. Lance hasn't had a ton of opportunities, but he has had opportunities and he didn't look nearly as good running the offense as Purdy. Happens all the time. NFL execs talk themselves into drafting a prototype body and disregard the actual collegiate performance of the physically imperfect, like Purdy ... or Montana (3rd round, weak arm), or Brady (sixth round, slow, unathletic). Some guys just have something, and it sure looks like Purdy has that something.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
We know via Kyle's play calls that he trusts Brock far more than he has anybody else in his six seasons here. With Brock, he feels free to call pass play and take advantage of vunerabilities that he Never would call with any other quarterback here so far. For the first time, he can call a game like he wants to to win the dang thing.

Trey Lance will get almost all the first team reps all offseason, so he'll have a great chance to improve all aspects of his game. But let's be real here. He has a long way to go to make Kyle have equal trust in him over Brock, and without the opportunity to prove himself under live bullet fire in games that count until the start of the season (if then), it's going to be a high hurdle. People think if Lance wins early, you can't take him out. I think if Kyle is uncomfortable calling a pass play deep in his own territory with the game on the line, when he thinks a big play is there for the taking, Kyle will make the change.

Lance will get the chance to show his worth, but the most likely scenario is that it will happen when Brock gets nicked during the next two years. A couple of hard fought up and down games where some stars make plays to pull it out is not going to change that.

Nope. I saw us win with Jimmy and I know we can win with Trey. There's this little thing card CMC and the matter of leading the league in rushing and explosive plays.

Just watch

We will lose more games with Trey. Jimmy was winning long before CMC got here. Brock can and will win. Trey has proven to lose. When Brock is healthy and ready to play he is the starter.

The injury is almost a blessing in disguise.. while B-Rocks rehab and/or rest, we'll get to see what the future lies with Baby Face.. the pressure is for him to perform this year because of what 13 did last year...

don't get me wrong, B-Rocks 7 wins last year don't mean a thing yet..

Likely Trey will be the starter in the beginning of the season because Brock won't be fully healthy yet. Also likely to not play well. Brock will be the starter when he is back and healthy which will be around October I would say.

Quit acting like you're Miss Cleo and can predict the future. You have no clue how Trey will perform. None.

I've seen him play.

You're basing such a strong opinion on a single game played in a lake. It makes sense that you can't comprehend the stupidity of it all.

48% completion. That's a brick thrower. He also runs like a fat fullback. Not like Justin Fields. I just don't see the hype at all.

Originally posted by BSofSF:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by BSofSF:
Brock Purdy EARNED the starting job. He performed at a high level in important games and in the playoffs. The players in the locker room as much as said it at the end of the season. I disagree with the notion that it's Trey's team unless/until he loses. The Niners starting QB has revealed himself, and it is Brock Purdy. Yes, Lance will get all of the offseason reps and will maybe start the first couple of games as Purdy rehabs, but the comparison of the two players was plain to see, draft status be damned.

What you're not understanding is Brock will not be cleared to play til around week 1. Clear to throw 3 months in. So Brock having no time with the 1s just walks in and starts? He's not Rodgers or Brady.

What am I not understanding? Did you watch last season? Brock Purdy stepped into the starting lineup with no time with the 1s. He proceeded to win every game he played in and was convincingly the best QB on the roster last year. He played better than Brady, who missed the playoffs and was defeated head-to-head, and he probably was playing better than Rodgers also, who also missed the playoffs. Purdy was simply executing the Shanahan offense at a high level, had lightning quick reads and reactions, and a pretty good sense of pressure in the pocket. He's undersized and doesn't have the strongest arm, so he slipped in the draft, but it was very apparent to anyone with two eyes and an unbiased mind that he was the best QB on our team. Had he remained healthy I believe we would have been in the Super Bowl with a legitimate chance to win it. When he is cleared, he should start. Lance hasn't had a ton of opportunities, but he has had opportunities and he didn't look nearly as good running the offense as Purdy. Happens all the time. NFL execs talk themselves into drafting a prototype body and disregard the actual collegiate performance of the physically imperfect, like Purdy ... or Montana (3rd round, weak arm), or Brady (sixth round, slow, unathletic). Some guys just have something, and it sure looks like Purdy has that something.

Originally posted by BSofSF:
What am I not understanding? Did you watch last season? Brock Purdy stepped into the starting lineup with no time with the 1s. He proceeded to win every game he played in and was convincingly the best QB on the roster last year. He played better than Brady, who missed the playoffs and was defeated head-to-head, and he probably was playing better than Rodgers also, who also missed the playoffs. Purdy was simply executing the Shanahan offense at a high level, had lightning quick reads and reactions, and a pretty good sense of pressure in the pocket. He's undersized and doesn't have the strongest arm, so he slipped in the draft, but it was very apparent to anyone with two eyes and an unbiased mind that he was the best QB on our team. Had he remained healthy I believe we would have been in the Super Bowl with a legitimate chance to win it. When he is cleared, he should start. Lance hasn't had a ton of opportunities, but he has had opportunities and he didn't look nearly as good running the offense as Purdy. Happens all the time. NFL execs talk themselves into drafting a prototype body and disregard the actual collegiate performance of the physically imperfect, like Purdy ... or Montana (3rd round, weak arm), or Brady (sixth round, slow, unathletic). Some guys just have something, and it sure looks like Purdy has that something.

Yeah that's 100% correct. He's got the it factor that you need. More important than 6'4" 225 lbs. More important than running a fast 40.

Originally posted by BSofSF:
What am I not understanding? Did you watch last season? Brock Purdy stepped into the starting lineup with no time with the 1s. He proceeded to win every game he played in and was convincingly the best QB on the roster last year. He played better than Brady, who missed the playoffs and was defeated head-to-head, and he probably was playing better than Rodgers also, who also missed the playoffs. Purdy was simply executing the Shanahan offense at a high level, had lightning quick reads and reactions, and a pretty good sense of pressure in the pocket. He's undersized and doesn't have the strongest arm, so he slipped in the draft, but it was very apparent to anyone with two eyes and an unbiased mind that he was the best QB on our team. Had he remained healthy I believe we would have been in the Super Bowl with a legitimate chance to win it. When he is cleared, he should start. Lance hasn't had a ton of opportunities, but he has had opportunities and he didn't look nearly as good running the offense as Purdy. Happens all the time. NFL execs talk themselves into drafting a prototype body and disregard the actual collegiate performance of the physically imperfect, like Purdy ... or Montana (3rd round, weak arm), or Brady (sixth round, slow, unathletic). Some guys just have something, and it sure looks like Purdy has that something.

Originally posted by BSofSF:
What am I not understanding? Did you watch last season? Brock Purdy stepped into the starting lineup with no time with the 1s. He proceeded to win every game he played in and was convincingly the best QB on the roster last year. He played better than Brady, who missed the playoffs and was defeated head-to-head, and he probably was playing better than Rodgers also, who also missed the playoffs. Purdy was simply executing the Shanahan offense at a high level, had lightning quick reads and reactions, and a pretty good sense of pressure in the pocket. He's undersized and doesn't have the strongest arm, so he slipped in the draft, but it was very apparent to anyone with two eyes and an unbiased mind that he was the best QB on our team. Had he remained healthy I believe we would have been in the Super Bowl with a legitimate chance to win it. When he is cleared, he should start. Lance hasn't had a ton of opportunities, but he has had opportunities and he didn't look nearly as good running the offense as Purdy. Happens all the time. NFL execs talk themselves into drafting a prototype body and disregard the actual collegiate performance of the physically imperfect, like Purdy ... or Montana (3rd round, weak arm), or Brady (sixth round, slow, unathletic). Some guys just have something, and it sure looks like Purdy has that something.

You can't just throw that out there and act like everything was equal and Trey didn't take advantage of the same opportunity Brock had.

You have to look at the context in each game both guys played. You can't knock Brock for playing with the guys he had available because he's running the offense and he did it incredibly well. Thing is we saw the offense and team improve even with Jimmy. We have a track record of Jimmy G and when CMC came in and got full practice in, the offense took off. Jimmy looked better and even calmer in the pocket.

Do we have a glimpse of the offense with CMC led by Trey? No. Hell Trey didn't even get Kittle this season, let alone CMC.

Remember how non Purdy like Brock looked to start the WC game vs Seattle cuz of the rain? Well Trey got even worse rain minus the home field advantage in the one game everyone is evaluating him from. We've seen Shanahan almost turtle up and go super basic and conservative when his trusted RBs aren't in the game. Trey had a lot of crap to deal with including the whole team playing sloppy as hell week 1. Then in the two games as a rookie you had his injured finger to deal with, being a 21 year old and having another game with no Kittle. Not a shocker his best game was with Kittle in the game.

Long story short - until we see both guys run the offense with the same weapons, it's hard to say how each would've done in the others shoes for their games.

That's why competition is a good thing. Nobody should be handed anything. Brock may have a leg up on things cuz he did play excellent but if the team just gives him the job when he's back it will surprise me.

Originally posted by genus49:
You can't just throw that out there and act like everything was equal and Trey didn't take advantage of the same opportunity Brock had.

You have to look at the context in each game both guys played. You can't knock Brock for playing with the guys he had available because he's running the offense and he did it incredibly well. Thing is we saw the offense and team improve even with Jimmy. We have a track record of Jimmy G and when CMC came in and got full practice in, the offense took off. Jimmy looked better and even calmer in the pocket.

Do we have a glimpse of the offense with CMC led by Trey? No. Hell Trey didn't even get Kittle this season, let alone CMC.

Remember how non Purdy like Brock looked to start the WC game vs Seattle cuz of the rain? Well Trey got even worse rain minus the home field advantage in the one game everyone is evaluating him from. We've seen Shanahan almost turtle up and go super basic and conservative when his trusted RBs aren't in the game. Trey had a lot of crap to deal with including the whole team playing sloppy as hell week 1. Then in the two games as a rookie you had his injured finger to deal with, being a 21 year old and having another game with no Kittle. Not a shocker his best game was with Kittle in the game.

Long story short - until we see both guys run the offense with the same weapons, it's hard to say how each would've done in the others shoes for their games.

That's why competition is a good thing. Nobody should be handed anything. Brock may have a leg up on things cuz he did play excellent but if the team just gives him the job when he's back it will surprise me.

We traded up for him because he was supposed to make everyone else better. Not need everyone else to make him better.

Originally posted by BSofSF:
What am I not understanding? Did you watch last season? Brock Purdy stepped into the starting lineup with no time with the 1s. He proceeded to win every game he played in and was convincingly the best QB on the roster last year. He played better than Brady, who missed the playoffs and was defeated head-to-head, and he probably was playing better than Rodgers also, who also missed the playoffs. Purdy was simply executing the Shanahan offense at a high level, had lightning quick reads and reactions, and a pretty good sense of pressure in the pocket. He's undersized and doesn't have the strongest arm, so he slipped in the draft, but it was very apparent to anyone with two eyes and an unbiased mind that he was the best QB on our team. Had he remained healthy I believe we would have been in the Super Bowl with a legitimate chance to win it. When he is cleared, he should start. Lance hasn't had a ton of opportunities, but he has had opportunities and he didn't look nearly as good running the offense as Purdy. Happens all the time. NFL execs talk themselves into drafting a prototype body and disregard the actual collegiate performance of the physically imperfect, like Purdy ... or Montana (3rd round, weak arm), or Brady (sixth round, slow, unathletic). Some guys just have something, and it sure looks like Purdy has that something.

For all intent purposes Trey has that it factor also but he just doesn't have the reps. I iike Brock but I just think he has a ceiling and he has already reached it. He might be able to be a top 10 QB but I don't think he will ever be elite and ever be in the MVP discussion. I just don't think he has those physical tools to compete with a Patrick Mahomes. I worry if they decided that Purdy is there future and trade Trey it will be another Jimmy G in a couple of years. Where he wins alot of games because of the team and coach around him and he's a decent enough QB But can't get the team a SB because the QB on the other side is much better and just able to make more plays. While Trey around this same time will have fully developed into an elite QB. And the team will never get another chance at getting that elite QB because they won't be drafting as high as they did in 2021. If they get rid of Trey they better hope they win the SB in the next couple of years or they will look really stupid. I mean their only excuse for refusing to develop Trey is they keep saying this is a SB win now team. Well then win the f**king SB. Because anything other than the SB win is a utter failure if you are not starting Trey.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
48% completion. That's a brick thrower. He also runs like a fat fullback. Not like Justin Fields. I just don't see the hype at all.

Agreed on all points. Ugliest throwing motion in the NFL.

Some 9er peeps just can't accept that TL can't live up to the predraft hype. it's just a religion at this point as they will believe in him no matter how bad he performs on the field, even after BCB comes back to win game after game for us...

Originally posted by krizay:
We traded up for him because he was supposed to make everyone else better. Not need everyone else to make him better.

Most everyone also said he would need time to develop but his haters calling him a bust because he wasn't lighting it up in his very 1st start. Even the way more experienced rookie QB's struggled for many starts in their rookie season. But Trey was suppose to play like a 5 year NFL veteran.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Agreed on all points. Ugliest throwing motion in the NFL.

Some 9er peeps just can't accept that TL can't live up to the predraft hype. it's just a religion at this point as they will believe in him no matter how bad he performs on the field, even after BCB comes back to win game after game for us...

In fairness to Trey very few QBs do.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Agreed on all points. Ugliest throwing motion in the NFL.

Some 9er peeps just can't accept that TL can't live up to the predraft hype. it's just a religion at this point as they will believe in him no matter how bad he performs on the field, even after BCB comes back to win game after game for us...

He started 4 f**kin games. 1 in a monsoon and the other he only played a quarter.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Agreed on all points. Ugliest throwing motion in the NFL.

Some 9er peeps just can't accept that TL can't live up to the predraft hype. it's just a religion at this point as they will believe in him no matter how bad he performs on the field, even after BCB comes back to win game after game for us...

In fairness to Trey very few QBs do.

Looks like Big Cock Brock did, and far exceeded them.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Most everyone also said he would need time to develop but his haters calling him a bust because he wasn't lighting it up in his very 1st start. Even the way more experienced rookie QB's struggled for many starts in their rookie season. But Trey was suppose to play like a 5 year NFL veteran.

What I remember people saying is... QBs like Trey don't need a perfect situation. They dont need a loaded roster. Yet all I'm reading is he needs the sun to shine and healthy pro bowl players.