QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Just simply pointing out that Brock isn't godlike that some on this board believe he is. He has plain as day tendencies and real limitations. And expecting him to maintain his level of play that he had through his 1st 6 games when his 7th game was mediocre and his 8th game ended in disaster is a genuine pause for concern with the hype surrounding him. I hope he comes back even stronger, more competitive and more driven. But if the team is winning and the offense is highly efficient, he will have to wait for his opportunity.

So what you are saying than is Trey needs to run an offense that establishes and maintains an average of 35 ppg? If so, again, you are putting a very absurd expectation on Brock as well. Because to maintain that over the course of an entire season has only been done 7 times in its history with no repeats and has only been accomplished twice in the past decade.

The poise he showed in the Dallas game was not mediocre lol. That was unbelievable for a rookie drafted in any round. And the Eagles game ended in injury, but we can phrase it as "disaster" if you'd like smh. As if the greats never got injured lmao.

And ya unless Trey plays nothing but top 10 defenses, he needs to be in the 30 ppg range to take the job

Not having verifiable criteria to base an opinion on leaves too much room to continue to move goalposts as they see fit. Which I am sure is the intent of some on here. Mainly because they have already declared their allegiance and nothing Trey does will live up to those ever moving expectations that they unfairly and unknowingly place upon Brock as well.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Not having verifiable criteria to base an opinion on leaves too much room to continue to move goalposts as they see fit. Which I am sure is the intent of some on here. Mainly because they have already declared their allegiance and nothing Trey does will live up to those ever moving expectations that they unfairly and unknowingly place upon Brock as well.

Notice in my last post I said "unless Trey plays nothing but top 10 defenses" meaning that he gets graded based on the context too. I won't expect him to score 30 ppg a game to maintain the job if we play nothing but good defenses. There's just too much nuance and detail to set a number that they need to reach

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Just simply pointing out that Brock isn't godlike that some on this board believe he is. He has plain as day tendencies and real limitations. And expecting him to maintain his level of play that he had through his 1st 6 games when his 7th game was mediocre and his 8th game ended in disaster is a genuine pause for concern with the hype surrounding him. I hope he comes back even stronger, more competitive and more driven. But if the team is winning and the offense is highly efficient, he will have to wait for his opportunity.

So what you are saying than is Trey needs to run an offense that establishes and maintains an average of 35 ppg? If so, again, you are putting a very absurd expectation on Brock as well. Because to maintain that over the course of an entire season has only been done 7 times in its history with no repeats and has only been accomplished twice in the past decade.

The poise he showed in the Dallas game was not mediocre lol. That was unbelievable for a rookie drafted in any round. And the Eagles game ended in injury, but we can phrase it as "disaster" if you'd like smh. As if the greats never got injured lmao.

And ya unless Trey plays nothing but top 10 defenses, he needs to be in the 30 ppg range to take the job

No team last season averaged more than 29.2 ppg. 1 team averaged that and everyone else was 28.4 or less. 🤣

Originally posted by YACBros85:

No team last season averaged more than 29.2 ppg. 1 team averaged that and everyone else was 28.4 or less. 🤣

No team did, but Brock did. That's treys comoetition

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Not having verifiable criteria to base an opinion on leaves too much room to continue to move goalposts as they see fit. Which I am sure is the intent of some on here. Mainly because they have already declared their allegiance and nothing Trey does will live up to those ever moving expectations that they unfairly and unknowingly place upon Brock as well.

Notice in my last post I said "unless Trey plays nothing but top 10 defenses" meaning that he gets graded based on the context too. I won't expect him to score 30 ppg a game to maintain the job if we play nothing but good defenses. There's just too much nuance and detail to set a number that they need to reach

No. Its just that you want to keep that open ended interpretation in order to maintain leverage in the debate. Because if you set actual reachable goals, its possible he may end up reaching them.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
No team last season averaged more than 29.2 ppg. 1 team averaged that and everyone else was 28.4 or less. 🤣

No team did, but Brock did. That's treys comoetition

Really. I didn't know Brock maintained that through a 17 game season. I must have missed his other 9 games somehow. Brock was averaging 12 ppg game (14 points if you include the extra points). The offense was averaging over 14 ppg. Don't get the two confused.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Not having verifiable criteria to base an opinion on leaves too much room to continue to move goalposts as they see fit. Which I am sure is the intent of some on here. Mainly because they have already declared their allegiance and nothing Trey does will live up to those ever moving expectations that they unfairly and unknowingly place upon Brock as well.

Notice in my last post I said "unless Trey plays nothing but top 10 defenses" meaning that he gets graded based on the context too. I won't expect him to score 30 ppg a game to maintain the job if we play nothing but good defenses. There's just too much nuance and detail to set a number that they need to reach

No. Its just that you want to keep that open ended interpretation in order to maintain leverage in the debate. Because if you set actual reachable goals, its possible he may end up reaching them.

No it's just not the way I would choose my QB. I would consider all the factors, like when I said Trey doesn't need 30 ppg if he ends up playing a string of top 10 defenses. The "goalposts" can be moved in Treys favor too

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

No team last season averaged more than 29.2 ppg. 1 team averaged that and everyone else was 28.4 or less. 🤣

No team did, but Brock did in 17 games. That's treys comoetition

Really. I didn't know Brock maintained that through a 17 game season. I must have missed his other 9 games somehow.

Changed my original post to make yours make sense. You're welcome

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Not having verifiable criteria to base an opinion on leaves too much room to continue to move goalposts as they see fit. Which I am sure is the intent of some on here. Mainly because they have already declared their allegiance and nothing Trey does will live up to those ever moving expectations that they unfairly and unknowingly place upon Brock as well.

Notice in my last post I said "unless Trey plays nothing but top 10 defenses" meaning that he gets graded based on the context too. I won't expect him to score 30 ppg a game to maintain the job if we play nothing but good defenses. There's just too much nuance and detail to set a number that they need to reach

No. Its just that you want to keep that open ended interpretation in order to maintain leverage in the debate. Because if you set actual reachable goals, its possible he may end up reaching them.

No it's just not the way I would choose my QB. I would consider all the factors, like when I said Trey doesn't need 30 ppg if he ends up playing a string of top 10 defenses. The "goalposts" can be moved in Treys favor too

Highly unlikely since you have already declared your allegiance.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
No team last season averaged more than 29.2 ppg. 1 team averaged that and everyone else was 28.4 or less. 🤣

No team did, but Brock did in 17 games. That's treys comoetition

Really. I didn't know Brock maintained that through a 17 game season. I must have missed his other 9 games somehow.

Changed my original post to make yours make sense. You're welcome

Your post still doesn't make a lick of sense even after you edited it.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

No team last season averaged more than 29.2 ppg. 1 team averaged that and everyone else was 28.4 or less. 🤣

No team did, but Brock did in 17 games. That's treys comoetition

Really. I didn't know Brock maintained that through a 17 game season. I must have missed his other 9 games somehow.

Changed my original post to make yours make sense. You're welcome

Your post still doesn't make a lick of sense even after you edited it.

Mine actually doesn't anymore, you're right lol

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Purdy's elbow injury is the exact opposite of unfortunate for Trey. It means he gets another shot to prove he is the guy. If Trey plays poorly, Purdy will get another opportunity. If Trey plays well, Purdy will have to wait patiently. A lot of fans on here are demonstrating just how scared they are for Trey to have another chance. Its kind of weird because the best case scenario for this organization is for both QB's to play well so that we can get something significant in return for one of them.

Lmao no one's scared of him playing. We just see it as a waste of everyone's time. It's just my opinion, but I'm over the whole Trey Lance thing. When watching him play I have to dissect the game so finitely to get excited about his play. I have to ignore like 10 crappy plays before I find one play that he does anything worth talking about.

where as with someone like Purdy, it's mind blowing in every way.

Otherwise said, I don't think Lance has it. I don't think he ever had it. I didn't want us to draft him and other fans from other teams were on the ground laughing when we took him so high. I remember I was out at a bar in Texas when we drafted him and everyone was like "LOL wtf are the niners doing?". Guess what? They're still laughing about it. Lmao Maybe im wrong, most likely not, but maybe.

Lances ceiling is a dak type player. I'll pass. If that's what we want then we should of stuck with Jimmy. If we really wanted a dynamic player who can force 11-11 play, we should of drafted fields. It was just a disaster of a trade and two years later, it's still a disaster of a trade/draft pick.

even the benefit of him being on a rookie scale contract has been a disaster. Lmao

"but but but he beat the Texans! (Top 3 worst team in the league)."

"but but but he lost to the bears cause of the weather! (Literally worst team in football record wise)."

people want this guy to be great so bad that they're willing to look insane trying to defend him so far. It's been nothing short of a colossal failure, so far.

Niners hit 2 good defenses in the playoffs with Dallas and Philly. What Brock and the offense did to Dallas is the classic take their best punches early, don't make it worse, and then methodically soften them up, and then dice them late. Dallas was on fire defensively early. Kyle calling plays allowing his offense adjusted to how Dallas was playing them. Brock made good decisions early. Thats critical to keep the offense in the game. Started out the same way in Philly. Unfortunately he got injured. I'm sure Brock was coached up to do that. Still a veteran play by a young rookie to actually made those decisions as they happened on the field.

Love how so many of these media pundits say that the 49ers have no QB and aren't going to be good on offense. Maybe I'm dreaming but didn't the niners offense average over 30 PPG when purdy came in? They have 3 QB's that I personally feel comfortable playing games and winning games. We just don't know exactly which one is going to be the starter with Purdy's injury. Lance will do well imo and has the most upside to make this the best offense in football