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Originally posted by BOI49er:
You blitz a young quarterback. When he makes you pay for that right out of the gate, it's uh oh. This could be a problem.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
This. If they really thought Trey was going to take off last year or thought he was going to be a superstar, would any of this be happening?
Right, you don't bench someone that you genuinely believe has superstar potential.
Which is why Brock was named QB1
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:i don't think that is looking good
QB1 looking good
QB 14 👀👀👀😂😂😂 #FTTB pic.twitter.com/eAHvpxJ2ZS
— Yogi Mf'n Bear (@40calKing) March 26, 2023
Lmao neck down, looking great! He's making all these AI robots out there wet.
how funny would it be if he did end up with a way stronger arm after this. cyborg purdy!
Originally posted by mayo49:
He is Brock Steady, rocking all night long.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is the key. Trey just isn't going to get the real live and playoff game experience to show what he can do.
Then again, all of this QB talk is stupid. Odds are, all 3 QB's will get live in-season game reps whether we like it or not. They're 49er QB's. It comes with our reality.
Has there been a head coach in history that has had as many injuries as Kyle has to their QBs? Seriously. All but one season our qb continually been injured (2019)
I know injuries are part of the game and some are freak injuries, but there must be some added risk to his play calling that's putting them at a higher risk. Last season alone we had 4 season ending injuries to different QBs. Lol what in the world is going on.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is the key. Trey just isn't going to get the real live and playoff game experience to show what he can do.
Then again, all of this QB talk is stupid. Odds are, all 3 QB's will get live in-season game reps whether we like it or not. They're 49er QB's. It comes with our reality.
Has there been a head coach in history that has had as many injuries as Kyle has to their QBs? Seriously. All but one season our qb continually been injured (2019)
I know injuries are part of the game and some are freak injuries, but there must be some added risk to his play calling that's putting them at a higher risk. Last season alone we had 4 season ending injuries to different QBs. Lol what in the world is going on.
Personally i think the movement requirements in this offense by Kyle on his QBs is a factor. Kyle's QBs have to turn their back to the defense execute a play fake and then run a naked boot and hoping that the DE gets faked out and follows the RB. If it goes wrong, the QB is potentially lit up. Also the pivot and turn and acceleration after the fakes are hard on a QBs knees, legs, and feet specially on astro-turf surfaces in my opinion.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
At the end of the day they can say Brock is the clubhouse leader but if Trey balls out it's his job
How and why is this a thing? For months now, we keep reading he needs reps. The only reps that are counted are the 100 or so game reps. No one ever cites the training camp reps. So if he needs game reps to improve and he wont get any game reps until the bullets start flying. What is the likelihood of him balling out?
Or does all of a sudden Training camp counts as reps? Even then he's allegedly splitting that this off season.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
At the end of the day they can say Brock is the clubhouse leader but if Trey balls out it's his job
How and why is this a thing? For months now, we keep reading he needs reps. The only reps that are counted are the 100 or so game reps. No one ever cites the training camp reps. So if he needs game reps to improve and he wont get any game reps until the bullets start flying. What is the likelihood of him balling out?
Or does all of a sudden Training camp counts as reps? Even then he's allegedly splitting that this off season.
I'm not too worried about Lance. I think he'll be fine. Steve Young took a while to develop. Other QBs also took a while. Jim Plunkett is another one. Point being, sometimes it takes a while for a player to develop. Trey can be one of those players. I think ShanaLynch will give him ample time to develop so long as he's making measurable progress, even if it's millimeters instead of miles. That's what three first round picks earns you in the NFL.
The QB1 positon on the other hand, is out of his current reach unless Brock doesn't come back from injury. My bet is Brock will come back 100% from the injury and his arm will possibly be even stronger with the ligament brace installed in his elbow. Brock didn't need a Tommy John surgery, so thats a big step to 100% recovering.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is the key. Trey just isn't going to get the real live and playoff game experience to show what he can do.
Then again, all of this QB talk is stupid. Odds are, all 3 QB's will get live in-season game reps whether we like it or not. They're 49er QB's. It comes with our reality.
Has there been a head coach in history that has had as many injuries as Kyle has to their QBs? Seriously. All but one season our qb continually been injured (2019)
I know injuries are part of the game and some are freak injuries, but there must be some added risk to his play calling that's putting them at a higher risk. Last season alone we had 4 season ending injuries to different QBs. Lol what in the world is going on.
Personally i think the movement requirements in this offense by Kyle on his QBs is a factor. Kyle's QBs have to turn their back to the defense execute a play fake and then run a naked boot and hoping that the DE gets faked out and follows the RB. If it goes wrong, the QB is potentially lit up. Also the pivot and turn and acceleration after the fakes are hard on a QBs knees, legs, and feet specially on astro-turf surfaces in my opinion.
Yeah, good points. I distinctly remember both injuries against Philly were DEs on TEs but that may just of been because Philly was so stacked.
The data points show a lot of injuries for our team, which most teams don't have it as bad as we did (last year was a really bad year across the league to injured QBs). I know some are just freak injuries but it sucks. lol
let's hope our gents can stay healthy all year. They deserve it.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
At the end of the day they can say Brock is the clubhouse leader but if Trey balls out it's his job
How and why is this a thing? For months now, we keep reading he needs reps. The only reps that are counted are the 100 or so game reps. No one ever cites the training camp reps. So if he needs game reps to improve and he wont get any game reps until the bullets start flying. What is the likelihood of him balling out?
Or does all of a sudden Training camp counts as reps? Even then he's allegedly splitting that this off season.
I'm not too worried about Lance. I think he'll be fine. Steve Young took a while to develop. Other QBs also took a while. Jim Plunkett is another one. Point being, sometimes it takes a while for a player to develop. Trey can be one of those players. I think ShanaLynch will give him ample time to develop so long as he's making measurable progress, even if it's millimeters instead of miles. That's what three first round picks earns you in the NFL.
The QB1 positon on the other hand, is out of his current reach unless Brock doesn't come back from injury. My bet is Brock will come back 100% from the injury and his arm will possibly be even stronger with the ligament brace installed in his elbow. Brock didn't need a Tommy John surgery, so thats a big step to 100% recovering.
Yeah, some guys need a lot of time. Rodgers sat for 3 or so years and be really refined his mechanics and everything by the time he started. It happens, no doubt, but we don't have time like that with our current situation.
Lance is also kind of an anomaly in todays day and age. Very few QBs play as little as he has and also go to such small programs the way he has and get take 3rd overall anymore.
i really hope he does. If not, it'll go down in history as one of the worst situations ever for him. Reminds me of the guy bill Walsh thought would be the next great in cincy that got injured and couldn't play anymore. I can't remember his name
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is the key. Trey just isn't going to get the real live and playoff game experience to show what he can do.
Then again, all of this QB talk is stupid. Odds are, all 3 QB's will get live in-season game reps whether we like it or not. They're 49er QB's. It comes with our reality.
Has there been a head coach in history that has had as many injuries as Kyle has to their QBs? Seriously. All but one season our qb continually been injured (2019)
I know injuries are part of the game and some are freak injuries, but there must be some added risk to his play calling that's putting them at a higher risk. Last season alone we had 4 season ending injuries to different QBs. Lol what in the world is going on.
Personally i think the movement requirements in this offense by Kyle on his QBs is a factor. Kyle's QBs have to turn their back to the defense execute a play fake and then run a naked boot and hoping that the DE gets faked out and follows the RB. If it goes wrong, the QB is potentially lit up. Also the pivot and turn and acceleration after the fakes are hard on a QBs knees, legs, and feet specially on astro-turf surfaces in my opinion.
Yeah, good points. I distinctly remember both injuries against Philly were DEs on TEs but that may just of been because Philly was so stacked.
The data points show a lot of injuries for our team, which most teams don't have it as bad as we did (last year was a really bad year across the league to injured QBs). I know some are just freak injuries but it sucks. lol
let's hope our gents can stay healthy all year. They deserve it.
The latter half of the season was one of the healthiest streches of games I have seen under Kyle. I think one factor was the QB play. 49ers were ahead by halftime and proceeded to ground and pound the opponent in the second half, and it was more power type runs vs side to side zone runs. If Kyle can continue to tweak his offense to remove just a bit more of the injury factor, he should be able to win multiple supebowls with a guy like Purdy, if he's 100% healthy. Kyles offensive line has gotten bigger and his RBs gotten bigger since 2019, is an example of a tweak that has (in my opinion) reduced a lot of offensive injuries.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
At the end of the day they can say Brock is the clubhouse leader but if Trey balls out it's his job
How and why is this a thing? For months now, we keep reading he needs reps. The only reps that are counted are the 100 or so game reps. No one ever cites the training camp reps. So if he needs game reps to improve and he wont get any game reps until the bullets start flying. What is the likelihood of him balling out?
Or does all of a sudden Training camp counts as reps? Even then he's allegedly splitting that this off season.
I'm not too worried about Lance. I think he'll be fine. Steve Young took a while to develop. Other QBs also took a while. Jim Plunkett is another one. Point being, sometimes it takes a while for a player to develop. Trey can be one of those players. I think ShanaLynch will give him ample time to develop so long as he's making measurable progress, even if it's millimeters instead of miles. That's what three first round picks earns you in the NFL.
The QB1 positon on the other hand, is out of his current reach unless Brock doesn't come back from injury. My bet is Brock will come back 100% from the injury and his arm will possibly be even stronger with the ligament brace installed in his elbow. Brock didn't need a Tommy John surgery, so thats a big step to 100% recovering.
Yeah, some guys need a lot of time. Rodgers sat for 3 or so years and be really refined his mechanics and everything by the time he started. It happens, no doubt, but we don't have time like that with our current situation.
Lance is also kind of an anomaly in todays day and age. Very few QBs play as little as he has and also go to such small programs the way he has and get take 3rd overall anymore.
i really hope he does. If not, it'll go down in history as one of the worst situations ever for him. Reminds me of the guy bill Walsh thought would be the next great in cincy that got injured and couldn't play anymore. I can't remember his name
Well covid is once in a hundred year occurrence, so I don't think we'll see another Trey Lance draft in our lifetime. Having said that, Kyle sees something in Trey, and remember it was Kyle who kept Brock over Sudfeld. So that gives me confidence Trey can be a good QB in this league. If Mullens and Beathard are still playing in the NFL, then Trey, under Kyles coaching, should accomplish more than those two players.
Montana gave Walsh the luxury of developing Steve Young, because Montana was so good. I feel its the same way with Lance and Purdy. Trey will be with the 49ers until his rookie contract ends or develops to where they can recover some of his draft capital in a trade. In the meantime I'm pulling for him to develop into a stronger armed Brock Purdy 2.0. We shall see.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
At the end of the day they can say Brock is the clubhouse leader but if Trey balls out it's his job
How and why is this a thing? For months now, we keep reading he needs reps. The only reps that are counted are the 100 or so game reps. No one ever cites the training camp reps. So if he needs game reps to improve and he wont get any game reps until the bullets start flying. What is the likelihood of him balling out?
Or does all of a sudden Training camp counts as reps? Even then he's allegedly splitting that this off season.
I'm not too worried about Lance. I think he'll be fine. Steve Young took a while to develop. Other QBs also took a while. Jim Plunkett is another one. Point being, sometimes it takes a while for a player to develop. Trey can be one of those players. I think ShanaLynch will give him ample time to develop so long as he's making measurable progress, even if it's millimeters instead of miles. That's what three first round picks earns you in the NFL.
The QB1 positon on the other hand, is out of his current reach unless Brock doesn't come back from injury. My bet is Brock will come back 100% from the injury and his arm will possibly be even stronger with the ligament brace installed in his elbow. Brock didn't need a Tommy John surgery, so thats a big step to 100% recovering.
Yeah, some guys need a lot of time. Rodgers sat for 3 or so years and be really refined his mechanics and everything by the time he started. It happens, no doubt, but we don't have time like that with our current situation.
Lance is also kind of an anomaly in todays day and age. Very few QBs play as little as he has and also go to such small programs the way he has and get take 3rd overall anymore.
i really hope he does. If not, it'll go down in history as one of the worst situations ever for him. Reminds me of the guy bill Walsh thought would be the next great in cincy that got injured and couldn't play anymore. I can't remember his name
Well covid is once in a hundred year occurrence, so I don't think we'll see another Trey Lance draft in our lifetime. Having said that, Kyle sees something in Trey, and remember it was Kyle who kept Brock over Sudfeld. So that gives me confidence Trey can be a good QB in this league. If Mullens and Beathard are still playing in the NFL, then Trey, under Kyles coaching, should accomplish more than those two players.
Montana gave Walsh the luxury of developing Steve Young, because Montana was so good. I feel its the same way with Lance and Purdy. Trey will be with the 49ers until his rookie contract ends or develops to where they can recover some of his draft capital in a trade. In the meantime I'm pulling for him to develop into a stronger armed Brock Purdy 2.0. We shall see.
very true. I know he's a millionaire and all that stuff but you have to feel somewhat for the kid. Just shafted a few times.
Yeah, I never doubted Lance could be a good qb in this league. I just doubt he would be a star. I'd be surprised if he was in this system, with this supporting cast, and never gets better. If he can stay healthy and get a season or two under his belt, he should look a lot better.
it's also a salary cap era, so it's not as easy to hold onto guys like it used to be. If I was Lance, I honestly wouldn't want to sit here for a few more years as QB2. He's young enough so it doesn't matter as much, he will still be young and nearing his prime. They're Just different situations but I do get what you're saying.
every friggen Play! 
Trey is much more advanced than Steve at this point in both their careers, so I think Trey is going to be a good QB in Kyles offense - based on his progress so far.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is the key. Trey just isn't going to get the real live and playoff game experience to show what he can do.
Then again, all of this QB talk is stupid. Odds are, all 3 QB's will get live in-season game reps whether we like it or not. They're 49er QB's. It comes with our reality.
Has there been a head coach in history that has had as many injuries as Kyle has to their QBs? Seriously. All but one season our qb continually been injured (2019)
I know injuries are part of the game and some are freak injuries, but there must be some added risk to his play calling that's putting them at a higher risk. Last season alone we had 4 season ending injuries to different QBs. Lol what in the world is going on.
Personally i think the movement requirements in this offense by Kyle on his QBs is a factor. Kyle's QBs have to turn their back to the defense execute a play fake and then run a naked boot and hoping that the DE gets faked out and follows the RB. If it goes wrong, the QB is potentially lit up. Also the pivot and turn and acceleration after the fakes are hard on a QBs knees, legs, and feet specially on astro-turf surfaces in my opinion.
Yeah, good points. I distinctly remember both injuries against Philly were DEs on TEs but that may just of been because Philly was so stacked.
The data points show a lot of injuries for our team, which most teams don't have it as bad as we did (last year was a really bad year across the league to injured QBs). I know some are just freak injuries but it sucks. lol
let's hope our gents can stay healthy all year. They deserve it.
The latter half of the season was one of the healthiest streches of games I have seen under Kyle. I think one factor was the QB play. 49ers were ahead by halftime and proceeded to ground and pound the opponent in the second half, and it was more power type runs vs side to side zone runs. If Kyle can continue to tweak his offense to remove just a bit more of the injury factor, he should be able to win multiple supebowls with a guy like Purdy, if he's 100% healthy. Kyles offensive line has gotten bigger and his RBs gotten bigger since 2019, is an example of a tweak that has (in my opinion) reduced a lot of offensive injuries.
It was so beautiful to watch that second half and 12 straight victories 😭😭.
i was listing to a doctor discuss Brock's injury and he said the reason why it's a rare injury in football is cause you have to get hit right at the exact moment and it's like a 1/10000 chance of it happening. Lol it happened to us 😭.
The reason I'm not too worried about his recovery (besides timeline) is that QBs don't typically rely on the tendon to generate torque on their throws. Where as pitches rely on it and it's why the quality of their remaining tissue (degenerated or not) matters so much. So far Brock has had everything go as smooth as it can. I expect his arm to be a little stronger but I'm just hoping his timing and comfort (especially the mental aspect) go back to normal sooner than later. Thankfully he will be throwing for three months before the season starts.
Originally posted by Giedi:Originally posted by tankle104:Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:i don't think that is looking goodOriginally posted by riverrunzthruit:QB1 looking good
QB 14 👀👀👀😂😂😂 #FTTB pic.twitter.com/eAHvpxJ2ZS
— Yogi Mf'n Bear (@40calKing) March 26, 2023
Lmao neck down, looking great! He's making all these AI robots out there wet.
how funny would it be if he did end up with a way stronger arm after this. cyborg purdy!
I hope he's the ShanaLynch QB version of Frank Gore, going forward.
