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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is the key. Trey just isn't going to get the real live and playoff game experience to show what he can do.

Then again, all of this QB talk is stupid. Odds are, all 3 QB's will get live in-season game reps whether we like it or not. They're 49er QB's. It comes with our reality.

Has there been a head coach in history that has had as many injuries as Kyle has to their QBs? Seriously. All but one season our qb continually been injured (2019)

I know injuries are part of the game and some are freak injuries, but there must be some added risk to his play calling that's putting them at a higher risk. Last season alone we had 4 season ending injuries to different QBs. Lol what in the world is going on.

Personally i think the movement requirements in this offense by Kyle on his QBs is a factor. Kyle's QBs have to turn their back to the defense execute a play fake and then run a naked boot and hoping that the DE gets faked out and follows the RB. If it goes wrong, the QB is potentially lit up. Also the pivot and turn and acceleration after the fakes are hard on a QBs knees, legs, and feet specially on astro-turf surfaces in my opinion.

Yeah, good points. I distinctly remember both injuries against Philly were DEs on TEs but that may just of been because Philly was so stacked.

The data points show a lot of injuries for our team, which most teams don't have it as bad as we did (last year was a really bad year across the league to injured QBs). I know some are just freak injuries but it sucks. lol

let's hope our gents can stay healthy all year. They deserve it.

The latter half of the season was one of the healthiest streches of games I have seen under Kyle. I think one factor was the QB play. 49ers were ahead by halftime and proceeded to ground and pound the opponent in the second half, and it was more power type runs vs side to side zone runs. If Kyle can continue to tweak his offense to remove just a bit more of the injury factor, he should be able to win multiple supebowls with a guy like Purdy, if he's 100% healthy. Kyles offensive line has gotten bigger and his RBs gotten bigger since 2019, is an example of a tweak that has (in my opinion) reduced a lot of offensive injuries.

It was so beautiful to watch that second half and 12 straight victories 😭😭.

i was listing to a doctor discuss Brock's injury and he said the reason why it's a rare injury in football is cause you have to get hit right at the exact moment and it's like a 1/10000 chance of it happening. Lol it happened to us 😭.

The reason I'm not too worried about his recovery (besides timeline) is that QBs don't typically rely on the tendon to generate torque on their throws. Where as pitches rely on it and it's why the quality of their remaining tissue (degenerated or not) matters so much. So far Brock has had everything go as smooth as it can. I expect his arm to be a little stronger but I'm just hoping his timing and comfort (especially the mental aspect) go back to normal sooner than later. Thankfully he will be throwing for three months before the season starts.

Great points! I agree, and I'll just add that I think there is a mental component to injuries. Example Jalen Hurd vs Deebo Samuel. One is always injured while the other has been pretty durable. I don't see any injury issues with Brock's scouting report. I dont see durability issues with Trey, in his scouting report also. However Trey doesn't have a lot of reps and what he's shown so far in the NFL is similar durability to Jimmy, which is a bit disappointing - but we did find Brock due to all the QB injuries so its not a total loss.

I really belive ShanaLynch will shore up the OLine now that Kyle's potentially found his passer. I know if I found my Joe Montana/Tom Brady 2.0, I'll be putting a ton of draft capital on that OLine to protect him.

I personally think the mind is the most amazing and complex thing on this planet - so many unanswered questions to how and why it functions (outside of the basics - the body with out a brain is a lifeless skeleton with organs/organisms all over it, it's hard to make sense of it when you really think about it… the brain provides control and conscious over it).
Anyways. Lol I do agree that there is An aspect to recovery that is mental and it's extremely important to not only how you approach it, but how your body responds to it.
Trey's had durability issues so far, and he may not have another serious injury for the rest of his career (hopefully!), but it's been a big reason for his lack of play too.

i genuinely believe that what brock has shown means he can be the next great qb if he can just stay healthy, and stay consistent. That's just me hoping and being optimistic at this point, but his play was that encouraging to me. I hope we shore up the right side of the line and after what we did at C/RG last right, I'm much more confident in our staffs ability to develop our talent and get the most out of them. Team seems high on Mckivitz and I give them the benefit of the doubt he will play at least above average. If whoever our QB is, can play at a solid level and be decisive, it should help him a lot.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Mar 30, 2023 at 1:26 AM ]
😍😍😍 GREATNESS! That's my QB 🥲🥲 not too shabby for a 7th round rookie, huh. I NEED MORE!!
https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2023/3/29/23660983/brock-purdy-49ers-football-outsiders-endorsment

"Statistical support for Purdy is not difficult to find. He was second in Expected Points Added per play over the course of his five regular-season starts, helping the Niners average a league-leading 33.6 points per game over that period. Purdy also finished the season with a QBR of 65.6, which would have ranked fifth in the NFL had he attempted enough throws to qualify.

On Monday, Football Outsiders provided more evidence to back up Purdy's status as the top candidate to be the starter, releasing its 'failed completions' data.

Football Outsiders describes a failed completion as any completed pass that fails to gain 45% of needed yards on first down, 60% on second down, or 100% on third or fourth down.

Purdy did not have enough attempts to qualify for a ranking but, as Bryan Knowles explains in his article, Purdy had 24 failed completions in his rookie season, giving him a successful completion rate of 52.9% that would have been the fifth-best in the NFL.

Those numbers come with the caveats that they are from a very small sample size and that Jimmy Garoppolo was second in successful completion rate (55%) for the second successive season, behind only Patrick Mahomes.

Garoppolo's success, and that of Purdy, speak to the effectiveness of the Shanahan offense as a quarterback incubator

But his successful completion rate still illustrates that Purdy threw for the required yardage more often than most of his NFL contemporaries last season, albeit with help from an offensive supporting cast that averaged 6.6 yards after catch per completion – second-most in the NFL.

He did so while displaying decisiveness when operating within structure and the creativity to make the plays outside of structure that were a key reason behind the 49ers' decision to draft Lance in 2021.

San Francisco finally saw those second-reaction plays added to its offense, just not from the anticipated source, and the combination of efficiency and playmaking ability Purdy demonstrated likely give him the edge in the QB competition, all things being equal."
[ Edited by tankle104 on Mar 30, 2023 at 2:17 AM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
😍😍😍 GREATNESS! That's my QB 🥲🥲 not too shabby for a 7th round rookie, huh. I NEED MORE!!
https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2023/3/29/23660983/brock-purdy-49ers-football-outsiders-endorsment

"Statistical support for Purdy is not difficult to find. He was second in Expected Points Added per play over the course of his five regular-season starts, helping the Niners average a league-leading 33.6 points per game over that period. Purdy also finished the season with a QBR of 65.6, which would have ranked fifth in the NFL had he attempted enough throws to qualify.

On Monday, Football Outsiders provided more evidence to back up Purdy's status as the top candidate to be the starter, releasing its 'failed completions' data.

Football Outsiders describes a failed completion as any completed pass that fails to gain 45% of needed yards on first down, 60% on second down, or 100% on third or fourth down.

Purdy did not have enough attempts to qualify for a ranking but, as Bryan Knowles explains in his article, Purdy had 24 failed completions in his rookie season, giving him a successful completion rate of 52.9% that would have been the fifth-best in the NFL.

Those numbers come with the caveats that they are from a very small sample size and that Jimmy Garoppolo was second in successful completion rate (55%) for the second successive season, behind only Patrick Mahomes.

Garoppolo's success, and that of Purdy, speak to the effectiveness of the Shanahan offense as a quarterback incubator

But his successful completion rate still illustrates that Purdy threw for the required yardage more often than most of his NFL contemporaries last season, albeit with help from an offensive supporting cast that averaged 6.6 yards after catch per completion – second-most in the NFL.

He did so while displaying decisiveness when operating within structure and the creativity to make the plays outside of structure that were a key reason behind the 49ers' decision to draft Lance in 2021.

San Francisco finally saw those second-reaction plays added to its offense, just not from the anticipated source, and the combination of efficiency and playmaking ability Purdy demonstrated likely give him the edge in the QB competition, all things being equal."

We are in a great situation. I think Brock can be a top notch starting QB. I think Trey has the ability abd work ethic to get there. Even Sam Darnold has a great skillset for Kyle to use. This offense is going to be so nice to watch.

I was rewatching the Bucs game from this year and I'm still in much awe now as I was then. Purdy puts so much stress on the defense. He hits guys, he can make the big play, and can make a play himself. He isn't Mahommes (no one is), but I think what he brings makes this offense one of the most scary in the NFL.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by tankle104:
😍😍😍 GREATNESS! That's my QB 🥲🥲 not too shabby for a 7th round rookie, huh. I NEED MORE!!
https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2023/3/29/23660983/brock-purdy-49ers-football-outsiders-endorsment

"Statistical support for Purdy is not difficult to find. He was second in Expected Points Added per play over the course of his five regular-season starts, helping the Niners average a league-leading 33.6 points per game over that period. Purdy also finished the season with a QBR of 65.6, which would have ranked fifth in the NFL had he attempted enough throws to qualify.

On Monday, Football Outsiders provided more evidence to back up Purdy's status as the top candidate to be the starter, releasing its 'failed completions' data.

Football Outsiders describes a failed completion as any completed pass that fails to gain 45% of needed yards on first down, 60% on second down, or 100% on third or fourth down.

Purdy did not have enough attempts to qualify for a ranking but, as Bryan Knowles explains in his article, Purdy had 24 failed completions in his rookie season, giving him a successful completion rate of 52.9% that would have been the fifth-best in the NFL.

Those numbers come with the caveats that they are from a very small sample size and that Jimmy Garoppolo was second in successful completion rate (55%) for the second successive season, behind only Patrick Mahomes.

Garoppolo's success, and that of Purdy, speak to the effectiveness of the Shanahan offense as a quarterback incubator

But his successful completion rate still illustrates that Purdy threw for the required yardage more often than most of his NFL contemporaries last season, albeit with help from an offensive supporting cast that averaged 6.6 yards after catch per completion – second-most in the NFL.

He did so while displaying decisiveness when operating within structure and the creativity to make the plays outside of structure that were a key reason behind the 49ers' decision to draft Lance in 2021.

San Francisco finally saw those second-reaction plays added to its offense, just not from the anticipated source, and the combination of efficiency and playmaking ability Purdy demonstrated likely give him the edge in the QB competition, all things being equal."

We are in a great situation. I think Brock can be a top notch starting QB. I think Trey has the ability abd work ethic to get there. Even Sam Darnold has a great skillset for Kyle to use. This offense is going to be so nice to watch.

I was rewatching the Bucs game from this year and I'm still in much awe now as I was then. Purdy puts so much stress on the defense. He hits guys, he can make the big play, and can make a play himself. He isn't Mahommes (no one is), but I think what he brings makes this offense one of the most scary in the NFL.

Same, I'm ridiculously excited about Purdy (as many can probably tell hahahah). Trey and Darnold have strong physical tools, no doubt. I always loved darnolds arm because it's strong but has great touch - he's just such a turnover machine when he has played. Both of them are in a great spot with this coaching staff and developing them, both still super young.

He had two ridiculous dimes, specifically the one to CMC for a TD… I couldn't believe it. So amazing. Yeah I don't compare anyone to Mahommes, he's such a unique and special qb. I only compare traits when it comes to him - such as "Mahommes and Purdy both have a great confident calmness to their play" or things of that nature. Comparing anyone to Mahommes is setting them up for failure. Haha lucky KC.

i love the way Purdy attacks defenses and doesn't always go for just "what the defense gives him". Goes after those tight window chunk plays that are not always the easy throws. He also did a great job on "second chance plays" - like extending the play with a scramble or having to find someone after his progressions weren't open.

he also had a dime to CMC in the endzone that was dropped but the throw and squeeze into a tight window was ridiculous.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Mar 30, 2023 at 4:15 AM ]
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Originally posted by tankle104:
I personally think the mind is the most amazing and complex thing on this planet - so many unanswered questions to how and why it functions (outside of the basics - the body with out a brain is a lifeless skeleton with organs/organisms all over it, it's hard to make sense of it when you really think about it… the brain provides control and conscious over it).
Anyways. Lol I do agree that there is An aspect to recovery that is mental and it's extremely important to not only how you approach it, but how your body responds to it.
Trey's had durability issues so far, and he may not have another serious injury for the rest of his career (hopefully!), but it's been a big reason for his lack of play too.

i genuinely believe that what brock has shown means he can be the next great qb if he can just stay healthy, and stay consistent. That's just me hoping and being optimistic at this point, but his play was that encouraging to me. I hope we shore up the right side of the line and after what we did at C/RG last right, I'm much more confident in our staffs ability to develop our talent and get the most out of them. Team seems high on Mckivitz and I give them the benefit of the doubt he will play at least above average. If whoever our QB is, can play at a solid level and be decisive, it should help him a lot.

Agree on that. Conditioning is important to staying healthy and injury free in the NFL, Kyle has repeatedly said so. If a player is not mentally strong enough to stay in conditon year round and be conditioned to play a 21 game season, he most likely will get injured dur to injuries caused by a lack of conditioning. Yes its the NFL and freak injuries do occur (Brocks elbow injury for example) but if you eliminate the conditioning injuries, you eliminate a ton of *typical* injuries right there.

Brock looks like a Gem. The key here is his 100% recovery. Again, part of that recovery is mental. But just look at his legs, he looks like a mini version of Bosa, and we know that Bosa got actually better after his knee injury. Brock worked his butt off to get that arm stronger after the college season ended and before the draft. I think the injury is a blessing to Brock because he'll learn all new types of exercises to rehab, strengthen, and condition that arm to heal it, but also to keep it strong and healthy for the future. Brock can still keep his conditioning up too, his lower body and legs is still healthy. I think he'll be better than new because of the injury.
Originally posted by mayo49:
He is Brock Steady, rocking all night long.

https://ibb.co/P6kLnC5
Good news, boys! Lance had a "great" game against the Texans - meaning Purdy had nothing but godly epic games. Lol ahhh yeah! 😎
Originally posted by tankle104:
Good news, boys! Lance had a "great" game against the Texans - meaning Purdy had nothing but godly epic games. Lol ahhh yeah! 😎
why the unnecessary Lance hate ?
Originally posted by tankle104:
Good news, boys! Lance had a "great" game against the Texans - meaning Purdy had nothing but godly epic games. Lol ahhh yeah! 😎

THE guy is raw.. he only played one full season in college.. the guy was so over hyped that everyone saw him as the next Mahomes.. last year alone, he's yet to start a full year and Las Vegas already had him top 5 in MVP race..
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Good news, boys! Lance had a "great" game against the Texans - meaning Purdy had nothing but godly epic games. Lol ahhh yeah! 😎
why the unnecessary Lance hate ?

I'm just being obnoxious. Lol I don't actually believe that. It was from a convo I had in the other thread.
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Good news, boys! Lance had a "great" game against the Texans - meaning Purdy had nothing but godly epic games. Lol ahhh yeah! 😎

THE guy is raw.. he only played one full season in college.. the guy was so over hyped that everyone saw him as the next Mahomes.. last year alone, he's yet to start a full year and Las Vegas already had him top 5 in MVP race..

Yeah, never understood it. I was excited to see him play but worried. I didn't think he would be really bad but I thought he would play alright. At least I was hoping. He needs a lot of time and experience before anyone will know what he is. He really needs a good 2 seasons of experience, in my opinion, before you can find out how good he will really be. Def the rawest player I've ever seen that high in a draft
I've always found our old qb coach's comments about QBs interesting. I think it's clear he probably wasn't fully onboard with Lance but he would of loved Purdy based on his criteria

https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2022/5/9/23063005/49ers-in-five-was-rich-scangarello-against-the-trey-lance-pick-in-2021
Originally posted by Heroism:

Flip the gif and it looks like he's pointing to his hurt arm. Lol
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:

Flip the gif and it looks like he's pointing to his hurt arm. Lol

Or wanting to slam some heroin. Lol
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