QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You're 100% right, of course. Draft slot determines expectation; and the less a player meets that expectation, the more of a bust he is. So the players picked highest have the most potential to be labeled as a bust. No one taken in the later rounds or signed as an UDFA is ever considered a bust.

Yeah, this is one thing I never thought we would be debating on here. Lol

now if he's trying to say "can Purdy be a let down" or something along those lines, then the answer is yes. Purdy has played at a level that ALL of us expect him to be a damn good qb going forward. Doesn't mean he will be great every game or take a couple of games to get back in his groove, but at this point, we expect him to be a good qb at worst. Anything less and it'll be a disappointment.

Lance has always had an uphill battle to fight, in the eyes of the fan base/league, because of not only where he was drafted - but the amount of quality draft picks given up for him. Which isn't his fault at all, but if he doesn't blossom into a top 7 or so qb in this league, he will be labeled a bust in most peoples eyes. That doesn't mean he can't be a good to very good qb in this league, it's just the reality of the draft situation he was in. That's really difficult for ANYONE to overcome.
darnold at this point is a bust because he was drafted at #3 and not played well. Doesn't mean he doesn't belong in the league or can't be a good qb.

Agreed again. Purdy now has high expectations because of his ELITE play last year. Hell I bought his gameday jersey lol. So yeah, if he turns out to not be "him," then it would be a major letdown. But in no way shape or form would be considered a bust. He's already outplayed his draft slot and total contract, just in the 8 games that he's played so far.

You got his jersey?! I've considered it but have held off.
I was reading that Lamar is seeking $50M a year.. who the hell can afford that and still have a decent roster? Purdys salary isn't even currently counting against the salary cap. Lol

honestly, I'm all for players getting paid but these qb contracts are getting out of control. There needs to be a reset. No reason they shouldn't be getting $25-$40M at most. I really hope Purdy (or whoever our qb is) understands this like Brady did and doesn't try to take every single penny. As fans, we should throw a fit if anyone on our roster demands that much. I don't want to watch the 49ers with a highly paid qb and them trying to shoulder everything around them. Odds of winning a super bowl is almost non existent at that point.

no qb on a max contract has ever won a super bowl.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

49erATT seems kinda triggered by the confidence in Brock.

Doesnt read as triggered. More like let's wait and get a bigger sample. I would agree.

Been down this path with Kap and Jimmy. Need larger samples. Stuff Brock succeeded at was definitely more repeatable since it wasn't based on improv but still demands a larger sample.

Cautiously optimistic.

He said that he would lose his job if he didn't inrove and correct deficiencies.

every single player would lose their depth spot/job if they didn't improve or correct deficiencies.. lol what kind of post is this

Every player has deficiencies that they never correct and lots don'tosw their job.

If he plays as he did all last year, why should he lose his job?

You also called him a flash in the pan.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

49erATT seems kinda triggered by the confidence in Brock.

Doesnt read as triggered. More like let's wait and get a bigger sample. I would agree.

Been down this path with Kap and Jimmy. Need larger samples. Stuff Brock succeeded at was definitely more repeatable since it wasn't based on improv but still demands a larger sample.

Cautiously optimistic.

nothing in life is guaranteed and nothing stays the same

If you follow the 49ers.. we've gotten excited about Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Kaep, Mullens, Jimmy G and now Purdy.

I'm just saying the odds are not in favor of just picking up where we left off.. and Purdy coming off major surgery to boot. If Purdy wasn't injured i would feel better.

But right now, i just see the QB position as a big ?

No one was excited about Alex in his rookie year.

And Shaun Hill? LOL

i swear every post is ignorance from you lol

as for past QB history.. i've been hear for all of it, so stop the BS

Who was excited about Alex after his first 8 games played? He had 1 TD and 11 INTs in his first season.

Claiming people were as excited for him were as excited for Alex after his rookie years they are for Brock is silly.

You compared the excitement for Hill, Smith and Mullens to the excitement for Purdy...come on, man!

lol i was here and saw all the excitement.. .. What you are doing now is mixing end results of past players to the infancy of Purdy's excitement

You wrote:
If you follow the 49ers.. we've gotten excited about Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Kaep, Mullens, Jimmy G and now Purdy.

I don't think you were paying attention because no one excited for any of those guys other than maybe Jimmy like people are excited about Brock and Jimmy didn't get the national hype Brock got.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You're 100% right, of course. Draft slot determines expectation; and the less a player meets that expectation, the more of a bust he is. So the players picked highest have the most potential to be labeled as a bust. No one taken in the later rounds or signed as an UDFA is ever considered a bust.

Yeah, this is one thing I never thought we would be debating on here. Lol

now if he's trying to say "can Purdy be a let down" or something along those lines, then the answer is yes. Purdy has played at a level that ALL of us expect him to be a damn good qb going forward. Doesn't mean he will be great every game or take a couple of games to get back in his groove, but at this point, we expect him to be a good qb at worst. Anything less and it'll be a disappointment.

Lance has always had an uphill battle to fight, in the eyes of the fan base/league, because of not only where he was drafted - but the amount of quality draft picks given up for him. Which isn't his fault at all, but if he doesn't blossom into a top 7 or so qb in this league, he will be labeled a bust in most peoples eyes. That doesn't mean he can't be a good to very good qb in this league, it's just the reality of the draft situation he was in. That's really difficult for ANYONE to overcome.
darnold at this point is a bust because he was drafted at #3 and not played well. Doesn't mean he doesn't belong in the league or can't be a good qb.

Agreed again. Purdy now has high expectations because of his ELITE play last year. Hell I bought his gameday jersey lol. So yeah, if he turns out to not be "him," then it would be a major letdown. But in no way shape or form would be considered a bust. He's already outplayed his draft slot and total contract, just in the 8 games that he's played so far.

You got his jersey?! I've considered it but have held off.
I was reading that Lamar is seeking $50M a year.. who the hell can afford that and still have a decent roster? Purdys salary isn't even currently counting against the salary cap. Lol

honestly, I'm all for players getting paid but these qb contracts are getting out of control. There needs to be a reset. No reason they shouldn't be getting $25-$40M at most. I really hope Purdy (or whoever our qb is) understands this like Brady did and doesn't try to take every single penny. As fans, we should throw a fit if anyone on our roster demands that much. I don't want to watch the 49ers with a highly paid qb and them trying to shoulder everything around them. Odds of winning a super bowl is almost non existent at that point.

no qb on a max contract has ever won a super bowl.

I did. Personally I do think that Purdy is "him" and we are set at QB. More specifically, the combination of Kyle and Purdy is absolutely electric. We are freaking SET for a decade+. I did not feel like this about Jimmy, or Alex, or Kaep, or Shaun Hill (lol), etc. Was I excited and hopeful about those guys? Sure. But not like this, this is different. Not sure how people don't see it.

I completely agree with you about the QB contracts, it's insane. Yes they are "worth it" relative to each other, but that's it. Taking up 20% to 25% of the salary cap is not a winning formula, as you pointed out. One of the reasons that Brady is the GOAT is because he knew this and made a sacrifice for his teams and took less money. We can only hope that Brock has that same sense about him, and does not channel that Watson/Lamar/Rodgers energy and try to squeeze every penny out of his contracts.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
49erATT seems kinda triggered by the confidence in Brock.

Doesnt read as triggered. More like let's wait and get a bigger sample. I would agree.

Been down this path with Kap and Jimmy. Need larger samples. Stuff Brock succeeded at was definitely more repeatable since it wasn't based on improv but still demands a larger sample.

Cautiously optimistic.

He said that he would lose his job if he didn't inrove and correct deficiencies.

every single player would lose their depth spot/job if they didn't improve or correct deficiencies.. lol what kind of post is this

Every player has deficiencies that they never correct and lots don'tosw their job.

If he plays as he did all last year, why should he lose his job?

You also called him a flash in the pan.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
49erATT seems kinda triggered by the confidence in Brock.

Doesnt read as triggered. More like let's wait and get a bigger sample. I would agree.

Been down this path with Kap and Jimmy. Need larger samples. Stuff Brock succeeded at was definitely more repeatable since it wasn't based on improv but still demands a larger sample.

Cautiously optimistic.

nothing in life is guaranteed and nothing stays the same

If you follow the 49ers.. we've gotten excited about Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Kaep, Mullens, Jimmy G and now Purdy.

I'm just saying the odds are not in favor of just picking up where we left off.. and Purdy coming off major surgery to boot. If Purdy wasn't injured i would feel better.

But right now, i just see the QB position as a big ?

No one was excited about Alex in his rookie year.

And Shaun Hill? LOL

i swear every post is ignorance from you lol

as for past QB history.. i've been hear for all of it, so stop the BS

Who was excited about Alex after his first 8 games played? He had 1 TD and 11 INTs in his first season.

Claiming people were as excited for him were as excited for Alex after his rookie years they are for Brock is silly.

You compared the excitement for Hill, Smith and Mullens to the excitement for Purdy...come on, man!

lol i was here and saw all the excitement.. .. What you are doing now is mixing end results of past players to the infancy of Purdy's excitement

You wrote:
If you follow the 49ers.. we've gotten excited about Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Kaep, Mullens, Jimmy G and now Purdy.

I don't think you were paying attention because no one excited for any of those guys other than maybe Jimmy like people are excited about Brock and Jimmy didn't get the national hype Brock got.

I know what I've said. I'm here all the time and seen all that has gone by. Posters were even excited for Nate Davis

Originally posted by tankle104:
You got his jersey?! I've considered it but have held off.
I was reading that Lamar is seeking $50M a year.. who the hell can afford that and still have a decent roster? Purdys salary isn't even currently counting against the salary cap. Lol

honestly, I'm all for players getting paid but these qb contracts are getting out of control. There needs to be a reset. No reason they shouldn't be getting $25-$40M at most. I really hope Purdy (or whoever our qb is) understands this like Brady did and doesn't try to take every single penny. As fans, we should throw a fit if anyone on our roster demands that much. I don't want to watch the 49ers with a highly paid qb and them trying to shoulder everything around them. Odds of winning a super bowl is almost non existent at that point.

no qb on a max contract has ever won a super bowl.

The Commanders are about to be sold for $6Billion+...NFL TV contracts are f**king nuts...as well as other NFL licenses rights.

It's not the QBs that need to be held back, the salary cap needs to increase for these players.

You look at the league... you look at it for a while now and QBs are hard to find... IN THE WHOLE F'N WORLD we can only find a certain # of legit starting QBs in this league? If that is the case, then their value needs to increase. This doesn't mean Lamar is better than some other top rated QB at their position... it just means, if a team can't get that other top rated QB.. then they have to get what's available, that can win them games. And Lamar has done his part to help his team win games. If the Ravens don't sign him to a huge contract, some other team will... because again, you need a QB that can win in this league. To help justify the cost of tickets... to bring in other talent... to not look like an embarrassment in front of millions every week for 17 weeks...as well as National Television every now and then.

Ravens are banking on Lamar sticking with them, we'll see.

Originally posted by krizay:
The coach himself called him the real deal. Why argue over if you think he played elite or not. Our coach clearly does.

#49ers HC Kyle Shanahan on Brock Purdy

"…he played at a level that was the real deal. If you go off that evaluation and what he did, he earned that job. He should be our starter on how he played. Because he has that film. And that was really cool to see."

via @wyche89

— Sterling Bennett (@49ers_Access) March 28, 2023

end of argument on QB1... yet somehow air yards, wet fields, or lack of game reps will try to distort Shanny's comments Lol

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You're 100% right, of course. Draft slot determines expectation; and the less a player meets that expectation, the more of a bust he is. So the players picked highest have the most potential to be labeled as a bust. No one taken in the later rounds or signed as an UDFA is ever considered a bust.

Yeah, this is one thing I never thought we would be debating on here. Lol

now if he's trying to say "can Purdy be a let down" or something along those lines, then the answer is yes. Purdy has played at a level that ALL of us expect him to be a damn good qb going forward. Doesn't mean he will be great every game or take a couple of games to get back in his groove, but at this point, we expect him to be a good qb at worst. Anything less and it'll be a disappointment.

Lance has always had an uphill battle to fight, in the eyes of the fan base/league, because of not only where he was drafted - but the amount of quality draft picks given up for him. Which isn't his fault at all, but if he doesn't blossom into a top 7 or so qb in this league, he will be labeled a bust in most peoples eyes. That doesn't mean he can't be a good to very good qb in this league, it's just the reality of the draft situation he was in. That's really difficult for ANYONE to overcome.
darnold at this point is a bust because he was drafted at #3 and not played well. Doesn't mean he doesn't belong in the league or can't be a good qb.

Agreed again. Purdy now has high expectations because of his ELITE play last year. Hell I bought his gameday jersey lol. So yeah, if he turns out to not be "him," then it would be a major letdown. But in no way shape or form would be considered a bust. He's already outplayed his draft slot and total contract, just in the 8 games that he's played so far.

You got his jersey?! I've considered it but have held off.
I was reading that Lamar is seeking $50M a year.. who the hell can afford that and still have a decent roster? Purdys salary isn't even currently counting against the salary cap. Lol

honestly, I'm all for players getting paid but these qb contracts are getting out of control. There needs to be a reset. No reason they shouldn't be getting $25-$40M at most. I really hope Purdy (or whoever our qb is) understands this like Brady did and doesn't try to take every single penny. As fans, we should throw a fit if anyone on our roster demands that much. I don't want to watch the 49ers with a highly paid qb and them trying to shoulder everything around them. Odds of winning a super bowl is almost non existent at that point.

no qb on a max contract has ever won a super bowl.

I did. Personally I do think that Purdy is "him" and we are set at QB. More specifically, the combination of Kyle and Purdy is absolutely electric. We are freaking SET for a decade+. I did not feel like this about Jimmy, or Alex, or Kaep, or Shaun Hill (lol), etc. Was I excited and hopeful about those guys? Sure. But not like this, this is different. Not sure how people don't see it.

I completely agree with you about the QB contracts, it's insane. Yes they are "worth it" relative to each other, but that's it. Taking up 20% to 25% of the salary cap is not a winning formula, as you pointed out. One of the reasons that Brady is the GOAT is because he knew this and made a sacrifice for his teams and took less money. We can only hope that Brock has that same sense about him, and does not channel that Watson/Lamar/Rodgers energy and try to squeeze every penny out of his contracts.

AGree 💯% that Purdy looks like a generational talent. His play as a rookie hasn't been seen for a generation for sure - if you believe all the NFL stats about Brock's rookie season, and I do.

If Brock wins a super bowl, he'll be worth whatever the market bears. Mahomes won a super bowl despite his insane contract numbers, so it's not impossible to win super bowls with a QB at max level contracts.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

49erATT seems kinda triggered by the confidence in Brock.

Doesnt read as triggered. More like let's wait and get a bigger sample. I would agree.

Been down this path with Kap and Jimmy. Need larger samples. Stuff Brock succeeded at was definitely more repeatable since it wasn't based on improv but still demands a larger sample.

Cautiously optimistic.

He said that he would lose his job if he didn't inrove and correct deficiencies.

every single player would lose their depth spot/job if they didn't improve or correct deficiencies.. lol what kind of post is this

Every player has deficiencies that they never correct and lots don'tosw their job.

If he plays as he did all last year, why should he lose his job?

You also called him a flash in the pan.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

49erATT seems kinda triggered by the confidence in Brock.

Doesnt read as triggered. More like let's wait and get a bigger sample. I would agree.

Been down this path with Kap and Jimmy. Need larger samples. Stuff Brock succeeded at was definitely more repeatable since it wasn't based on improv but still demands a larger sample.

Cautiously optimistic.

nothing in life is guaranteed and nothing stays the same

If you follow the 49ers.. we've gotten excited about Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Kaep, Mullens, Jimmy G and now Purdy.

I'm just saying the odds are not in favor of just picking up where we left off.. and Purdy coming off major surgery to boot. If Purdy wasn't injured i would feel better.

But right now, i just see the QB position as a big ?

No one was excited about Alex in his rookie year.

And Shaun Hill? LOL

i swear every post is ignorance from you lol

as for past QB history.. i've been hear for all of it, so stop the BS

Who was excited about Alex after his first 8 games played? He had 1 TD and 11 INTs in his first season.

Claiming people were as excited for him were as excited for Alex after his rookie years they are for Brock is silly.

You compared the excitement for Hill, Smith and Mullens to the excitement for Purdy...come on, man!

lol i was here and saw all the excitement.. .. What you are doing now is mixing end results of past players to the infancy of Purdy's excitement

You wrote:
If you follow the 49ers.. we've gotten excited about Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Kaep, Mullens, Jimmy G and now Purdy.

I don't think you were paying attention because no one excited for any of those guys other than maybe Jimmy like people are excited about Brock and Jimmy didn't get the national hype Brock got.

I know what I've said. I'm here all the time and seen all that has gone by. Posters were even excited for Nate Davis

Rhe level of excitement for any of these players from fans and the media were nowhere near what they are for Purdy.

You're probably new to the 49ers.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by krizay:
The coach himself called him the real deal. Why argue over if you think he played elite or not. Our coach clearly does.

#49ers HC Kyle Shanahan on Brock Purdy

"…he played at a level that was the real deal. If you go off that evaluation and what he did, he earned that job. He should be our starter on how he played. Because he has that film. And that was really cool to see."

via @wyche89

— Sterling Bennett (@49ers_Access) March 28, 2023

end of argument on QB1... yet somehow air yards, wet fields, or lack of game reps will try to distort Shanny's comments Lol

Agree 💯% that Brock is QB1. The only unknowns are his rehab and health of his arm. Other than that, he's QB1 - all else being equal (health etc...)

I am still super excited about Trey, who I think will follow more of a Steve Young type of development. I truly think that a QB's athleticism sometimes does slow down a QB's passing development. I know Steve could rely on his running ability to get himself out of trouble, and he did that too often, and so I think that slowed his development down. Same with Trey, he has a wonderful speed and athleticism to take off if he's in trouble, instead of being able to develop that 6th sense that Brock seems to have with the passing offense. So in a sense, Trey's ability to run becomes more of a crutch, and hence that does (I think) affect his pace in learning of the passing game. If you can run and escape, it becomes less dire to REALLY learn the offense because of said escapalability. If you are a Nick Mullens, and slow as molasses, your only means to survive the NFL game is to get rid of the ball as quickly as possible before those 300 lb guys flatten you and destroy your body.

Originally posted by Furlow:
I did. Personally I do think that Purdy is "him" and we are set at QB. More specifically, the combination of Kyle and Purdy is absolutely electric. We are freaking SET for a decade+. I did not feel like this about Jimmy, or Alex, or Kaep, or Shaun Hill (lol), etc. Was I excited and hopeful about those guys? Sure. But not like this, this is different. Not sure how people don't see it.

I completely agree with you about the QB contracts, it's insane. Yes they are "worth it" relative to each other, but that's it. Taking up 20% to 25% of the salary cap is not a winning formula, as you pointed out. One of the reasons that Brady is the GOAT is because he knew this and made a sacrifice for his teams and took less money. We can only hope that Brock has that same sense about him, and does not channel that Watson/Lamar/Rodgers energy and try to squeeze every penny out of his contracts.

I agree 100%. Their chemistry and mental alignment on how they see the game is something that can be special, if they stay healthy. You could tell they they're both just absolute football junkies and see the game very clearly. They both have a sort of hard headed confidence that no matter what - they believe they can overcome what's infront of them. I was super excited about those guys but watching Purdy and Kyle this last season was just something different. It felt very special to me and it translated to the field. I don't understand how others don't see it either, I couldn't get enough of watching them last year and was so excited Everytime they stepped on the field.

Yeah, They're definitely worth a lot but is an extra $10M something worth sacrificing the quality of career you can have? I know it's a lot of money but what I don't think people realize is that when you and your team are always winning/performing, the endorsement deals make up for that and build a longer brand that can be sustained after your playing days. Realistically, one season of making $25M and you and your family should be set for life. Lol I guess it's easier to say as a fan but it's a huge key to longevity and success. It's probably the biggest variable to Brady's championship success that doesn't get talked about. He "only" made like $25M a year in Tampa and it really helped put a lot of players around him. Brock is a very down to earth guy, so I hope he gets paid (he's def outplayed his current contract already if he was just a backup) but thinks about his team too. I feel like we are going to get lucky and he is that type.

Originally posted by tankle104:
You got his jersey?! I've considered it but have held off.
I was reading that Lamar is seeking $50M a year.. who the hell can afford that and still have a decent roster? Purdys salary isn't even currently counting against the salary cap. Lol

honestly, I'm all for players getting paid but these qb contracts are getting out of control. There needs to be a reset. No reason they shouldn't be getting $25-$40M at most. I really hope Purdy (or whoever our qb is) understands this like Brady did and doesn't try to take every single penny. As fans, we should throw a fit if anyone on our roster demands that much. I don't want to watch the 49ers with a highly paid qb and them trying to shoulder everything around them. Odds of winning a super bowl is almost non existent at that point.

no qb on a max contract has ever won a super bowl.

If I did 23 & me I'm willing to be we are related. At least from an NFL QBing perspective

Originally posted by tankle104:
You got his jersey?! I've considered it but have held off.
I was reading that Lamar is seeking $50M a year.. who the hell can afford that and still have a decent roster? Purdys salary isn't even currently counting against the salary cap. Lol

honestly, I'm all for players getting paid but these qb contracts are getting out of control. There needs to be a reset. No reason they shouldn't be getting $25-$40M at most. I really hope Purdy (or whoever our qb is) understands this like Brady did and doesn't try to take every single penny. As fans, we should throw a fit if anyone on our roster demands that much. I don't want to watch the 49ers with a highly paid qb and them trying to shoulder everything around them. Odds of winning a super bowl is almost non existent at that point.

no qb on a max contract has ever won a super bowl.

good post here and good convo.. it's quite a dilemma, cuz of course you hope any young QB, TL or BP plays major ball, but then once they get to 2nd contract, what do you do? you have to pay $160m 4 years if you want to retain someone like Daniel Jones.

NYG could have said we aren't doing that, but they would have had no QB, they keep throwing darts in the draft? Hoping to always hit and then restart every 4 years? Not sure the long term answer, but if you have Mahomes, clearly you pay the man, right? I don't know what a max contract is in NFL, don't think that's a thing, Mahomes just won a SB, Stafford won, Brady won, these are not rook contract QBs, although each may have certain circumstances on how those deals were spread, Brady always kinda left money on the table, but he's a rare exception.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
You got his jersey?! I've considered it but have held off.
I was reading that Lamar is seeking $50M a year.. who the hell can afford that and still have a decent roster? Purdys salary isn't even currently counting against the salary cap. Lol

honestly, I'm all for players getting paid but these qb contracts are getting out of control. There needs to be a reset. No reason they shouldn't be getting $25-$40M at most. I really hope Purdy (or whoever our qb is) understands this like Brady did and doesn't try to take every single penny. As fans, we should throw a fit if anyone on our roster demands that much. I don't want to watch the 49ers with a highly paid qb and them trying to shoulder everything around them. Odds of winning a super bowl is almost non existent at that point.

no qb on a max contract has ever won a super bowl.

If I did 23 & me I'm willing to be we are related. At least from an NFL QBing perspective

Hahaha based off of your username - definitely related.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
You got his jersey?! I've considered it but have held off.
I was reading that Lamar is seeking $50M a year.. who the hell can afford that and still have a decent roster? Purdys salary isn't even currently counting against the salary cap. Lol

honestly, I'm all for players getting paid but these qb contracts are getting out of control. There needs to be a reset. No reason they shouldn't be getting $25-$40M at most. I really hope Purdy (or whoever our qb is) understands this like Brady did and doesn't try to take every single penny. As fans, we should throw a fit if anyone on our roster demands that much. I don't want to watch the 49ers with a highly paid qb and them trying to shoulder everything around them. Odds of winning a super bowl is almost non existent at that point.

no qb on a max contract has ever won a super bowl.

good post here and good convo.. it's quite a dilemma, cuz of course you hope any young QB, TL or BP plays major ball, but then once they get to 2nd contract, what do you do? you have to pay $160m 4 years if you want to retain someone like Daniel Jones.

NYG could have said we aren't doing that, but they would have had no QB, they keep throwing darts in the draft? Hoping to always hit and then restart every 4 years? Not sure the long term answer, but if you have Mahomes, clearly you pay the man, right? I don't know what a max contract is in NFL, don't think that's a thing, Mahomes just won a SB, Stafford won, Brady won, these are not rook contract QBs, although each may have certain circumstances on how those deals were spread, Brady always kinda left money on the table, but he's a rare exception.

Yeah, it's a tough spot to be in, albeit there are worse. I think that's why it's so important that your qb elevates the play of guys around him. Makes them better than they are on their own (a good system does that too). Mahomes def deserves what he got but he was making $36M last year, which is reasonable. They also spread it out over numerous years, which was smart.

a guy like Daniel Jones is a game manager and doesn't elevate anything around him, he just runs the play and if it works, if works. He isn't the type to make a play if it isn't there.

truthfully, I saw that stat on nfl network but I'm not entirely sure what "max contract" means.

the key is going to be the structure of the contract and then if that QB makes everyone around him better. I think Purdy did that in his limited play, even though he has really good players around him, but use kittle for example. That was the best version of kittle we've seen since 2019. CMC had the most all purpose yards by a player in nfl history from a mid season trade. Things like that.

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Originally posted by tankle104:
You got his jersey?! I've considered it but have held off.
I was reading that Lamar is seeking $50M a year.. who the hell can afford that and still have a decent roster? Purdys salary isn't even currently counting against the salary cap. Lol

honestly, I'm all for players getting paid but these qb contracts are getting out of control. There needs to be a reset. No reason they shouldn't be getting $25-$40M at most. I really hope Purdy (or whoever our qb is) understands this like Brady did and doesn't try to take every single penny. As fans, we should throw a fit if anyone on our roster demands that much. I don't want to watch the 49ers with a highly paid qb and them trying to shoulder everything around them. Odds of winning a super bowl is almost non existent at that point.

no qb on a max contract has ever won a super bowl.

The Commanders are about to be sold for $6Billion+...NFL TV contracts are f**king nuts...as well as other NFL licenses rights.

It's not the QBs that need to be held back, the salary cap needs to increase for these players.

You look at the league... you look at it for a while now and QBs are hard to find... IN THE WHOLE F'N WORLD we can only find a certain # of legit starting QBs in this league? If that is the case, then their value needs to increase. This doesn't mean Lamar is better than some other top rated QB at their position... it just means, if a team can't get that other top rated QB.. then they have to get what's available, that can win them games. And Lamar has done his part to help his team win games. If the Ravens don't sign him to a huge contract, some other team will... because again, you need a QB that can win in this league. To help justify the cost of tickets... to bring in other talent... to not look like an embarrassment in front of millions every week for 17 weeks...as well as National Television every now and then.

Ravens are banking on Lamar sticking with them, we'll see.

I'm glad you have compassion for the players but they are way past being under paid. When the salaries go up so do ticket prices and TV access costs. Their salaries are rising way faster than any other profession. I don't want to hear that noise about short careers. They chose the career so they should accept the fact that it could end quickly. They can go out and get another job doing things normal people do. Most of them have a degree or at last 3 years of college. That's way better than the average person. If they're worried about injuries cutting their career short then invest or bank all the money from your early contracts. If they can make it 5 years then they should have a decent nest egg.