QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by dj43:
According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

I like this kinda party dj

…..also, I concur…..you always bring a PLETHORA of facts

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by dj43:
According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

I like this kinda party dj

…..also, I concur…..you always bring a PLETHORA of facts

Is PLETHORA good? Not contagious? Do I need to vax?

Thanks, bro.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:
Fun fact from Frelund at NFL.com: Will Levis had the highest recorded ball speed of all 2022 college QBs - 58 MPH.

Brock Purdy at 56 MPH is not far behind.

Damn, seems like this draft class doesn't have too many guys with a strong huh. I mean that's more than good enough, it's just interesting.

According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

The context was very helpful, thank you. I've never dived into that stuff too much.

so Purdy did have a relatively sub par arm before his off season training after college. The trainer said he increased his MPH on throws from 50-51 MPH to where it currently is 55-56 MPH. So he has an above average arm, which is awesome. I never thought it was weak but I didn't know how close it was to guys like allen/Mahomes.

like you said, hopefully he can tack on another 2-3 mph for zip and velocity! I can't freakin wait to see how he looks once he's ready! 😍😍

I hope he does come back as Bionic Brock & breaks more records

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:
Fun fact from Frelund at NFL.com: Will Levis had the highest recorded ball speed of all 2022 college QBs - 58 MPH.

Brock Purdy at 56 MPH is not far behind.

Damn, seems like this draft class doesn't have too many guys with a strong huh. I mean that's more than good enough, it's just interesting.

According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

Great info!

I'd imagine the only real difference in those 56-60 is the ability to throw that hard off platform. But that too can be compensated with great football IQ, anticipation and accuracy. If you have these 3, you may rarely NEED to throw it that hard.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:
Fun fact from Frelund at NFL.com: Will Levis had the highest recorded ball speed of all 2022 college QBs - 58 MPH.

Brock Purdy at 56 MPH is not far behind.

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Damn, seems like this draft class doesn't have too many guys with a strong huh. I mean that's more than good enough, it's just interesting.

According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

Great info!

I'd imagine the only real difference in those 56-60 is the ability to throw that hard off platform. But that too can be compensated with great football IQ, anticipation and accuracy. If you have these 3, you may rarely NEED to throw it that hard.

you cant be any more correct

There is several ways to measure ball speed, and how a measurement is taken makes it hard to get a clean apples to apples measurement. Rarely do we get a true distance over land that corrects for the changes in altitude and rotation of the ball that effect the more common radar gun readings

. I was really excited when a company brought GPS embedded balls to the senior bowl, right? finally an even playing field with a common measurement of distance over land!.....well....not really..... most the throws in practice and the game barley hit 45- 50 mph. That tight window out rout....yeah most QBs seldom use their true maximum arm strength.

I dont think many of the QBs got any where near their combine velocity numbers.

I guess it is like every other position, how many times do we see a 4.3 guy that cant really use his feet like we hoped...and meanwhile Jerry rice with his 4.71 made a career running away from 4.4 guys.

For every Brett Farve that make his arm strength work for him, we get a lot of dudes who have cannons that are will never leverage that ability in the NFL.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:
Fun fact from Frelund at NFL.com: Will Levis had the highest recorded ball speed of all 2022 college QBs - 58 MPH.

Brock Purdy at 56 MPH is not far behind.

Damn, seems like this draft class doesn't have too many guys with a strong huh. I mean that's more than good enough, it's just interesting.

+ Show all quotes
According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

Great info!

I'd imagine the only real difference in those 56-60 is the ability to throw that hard off platform. But that too can be compensated with great football IQ, anticipation and accuracy. If you have these 3, you may rarely NEED to throw it that hard.

you cant be any more correct

There is several ways to measure ball speed, and how a measurement is taken makes it hard to get a clean apples to apples measurement. Rarely do we get a true distance over land that corrects for the changes in altitude and rotation of the ball that effect the more common radar gun readings

. I was really excited when a company brought GPS embedded balls to the senior bowl, right? finally an even playing field with a common measurement of distance over land!.....well....not really..... most the throws in practice and the game barley hit 45- 50 mph. That tight window out rout....yeah most QBs seldom use their true maximum arm strength.

I dont think many of the QBs got any where near their combine velocity numbers.

I guess it is like every other position, how many times do we see a 4.3 guy that cant really use his feet like we hoped...and meanwhile Jerry rice with his 4.71 made a career running away from 4.4 guys.

For every Brett Farve that make his arm strength work for him, we get a lot of dudes who have cannons that are will never leverage that ability in the NFL.

Makes me wonder if those QBs who constantly throw the ball with their strength (like kap, Favre, Herbert) use their UCL like a pitcher does. I read most QBs don't but in baseball it's much more common so they can get more velocity on the ball.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:
Fun fact from Frelund at NFL.com: Will Levis had the highest recorded ball speed of all 2022 college QBs - 58 MPH.

Brock Purdy at 56 MPH is not far behind.

Damn, seems like this draft class doesn't have too many guys with a strong huh. I mean that's more than good enough, it's just interesting.

+ Show all quotes
According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

Great info!

I'd imagine the only real difference in those 56-60 is the ability to throw that hard off platform. But that too can be compensated with great football IQ, anticipation and accuracy. If you have these 3, you may rarely NEED to throw it that hard.

you cant be any more correct

There is several ways to measure ball speed, and how a measurement is taken makes it hard to get a clean apples to apples measurement. Rarely do we get a true distance over land that corrects for the changes in altitude and rotation of the ball that effect the more common radar gun readings

. I was really excited when a company brought GPS embedded balls to the senior bowl, right? finally an even playing field with a common measurement of distance over land!.....well....not really..... most the throws in practice and the game barley hit 45- 50 mph. That tight window out rout....yeah most QBs seldom use their true maximum arm strength.

I dont think many of the QBs got any where near their combine velocity numbers.

I guess it is like every other position, how many times do we see a 4.3 guy that cant really use his feet like we hoped...and meanwhile Jerry rice with his 4.71 made a career running away from 4.4 guys.

For every Brett Farve that make his arm strength work for him, we get a lot of dudes who have cannons that are will never leverage that ability in the NFL.

System also matters. Air Coryell long ball systems would value guys with rocket arms for the deep ball. Short passing systems, and I'll put Kyle's offense sorta kinda in that bucket, although - Kyle's system is more towards the longer passes -- don't need the velocity that Air Coryell systems need.

Brock's skill set is definitely a good match for Kyle. I liked what another Webzone poster said (I think it was NY85) who said Purdy is Jimmy with escapability and the ability to throw off schedule and off platform.

I'm hopeful the brace actually will help Purdy's arm get better or stronger. Sometimes an injury might make that body part stronger in some ways. Example of that is Frank Gore, horrible injuries in college, hardly any injuries in the NFL. Trey and Sam have that deep ball passing ability that maybe Purdy doesn't have to that extent. Purdy can throw deep, no question. I still remember the pass to Ray Ray that Kittle intercepted for a TD. I think what really helped our QB situation is Chrisian McCaffrey. He is one hell of a weapon - very similar to Roger Craig in my opinion. One heck of a hot route receiver for sure. I'd like Mitchell, TDP, and Mason to develop into that kind of passing weapon - I think it would make Purdy unstoppable.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:
Fun fact from Frelund at NFL.com: Will Levis had the highest recorded ball speed of all 2022 college QBs - 58 MPH.

Brock Purdy at 56 MPH is not far behind.

Damn, seems like this draft class doesn't have too many guys with a strong huh. I mean that's more than good enough, it's just interesting.

+ Show all quotes
According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

Great info!

I'd imagine the only real difference in those 56-60 is the ability to throw that hard off platform. But that too can be compensated with great football IQ, anticipation and accuracy. If you have these 3, you may rarely NEED to throw it that hard.

you cant be any more correct

There is several ways to measure ball speed, and how a measurement is taken makes it hard to get a clean apples to apples measurement. Rarely do we get a true distance over land that corrects for the changes in altitude and rotation of the ball that effect the more common radar gun readings

. I was really excited when a company brought GPS embedded balls to the senior bowl, right? finally an even playing field with a common measurement of distance over land!.....well....not really..... most the throws in practice and the game barley hit 45- 50 mph. That tight window out rout....yeah most QBs seldom use their true maximum arm strength.

I dont think many of the QBs got any where near their combine velocity numbers.

I guess it is like every other position, how many times do we see a 4.3 guy that cant really use his feet like we hoped...and meanwhile Jerry rice with his 4.71 made a career running away from 4.4 guys.

For every Brett Farve that make his arm strength work for him, we get a lot of dudes who have cannons that are will never leverage that ability in the NFL.

It all makes sense. Quarterbacks are typically trying to drop it in there playing keep away from defenders. They're not going for maximum velocity. Pitchers don't have any defenders between him and the batter, and the last thing they ever want to do is "drop it in there", lest the batter drops it in the 15 row.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:
Fun fact from Frelund at NFL.com: Will Levis had the highest recorded ball speed of all 2022 college QBs - 58 MPH.

Brock Purdy at 56 MPH is not far behind.

+ Show all quotes
Damn, seems like this draft class doesn't have too many guys with a strong huh. I mean that's more than good enough, it's just interesting.

According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

Great info!

I'd imagine the only real difference in those 56-60 is the ability to throw that hard off platform. But that too can be compensated with great football IQ, anticipation and accuracy. If you have these 3, you may rarely NEED to throw it that hard.

Of course, there is more to it than just velocity in a relatively sterile situation. However, since everyone is now being measured in the same way, it does give us some basis for comparative arm strength.

Next comes the ability to make good throws off-platform and from different arm angles. Mahomes is the master at that. I don't know if I have ever seen anyone better. We have also seen Purdy make some very good throws in those situations as well.

And all that spins around football IQ and the other things you mentioned. Just knowing how to take something off to make it more catchable is an obvious plus. Purdy checks the boxes here as well.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:
Fun fact from Frelund at NFL.com: Will Levis had the highest recorded ball speed of all 2022 college QBs - 58 MPH.

Brock Purdy at 56 MPH is not far behind.

Damn, seems like this draft class doesn't have too many guys with a strong huh. I mean that's more than good enough, it's just interesting.

+ Show all quotes
According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

Great info!

I'd imagine the only real difference in those 56-60 is the ability to throw that hard off platform. But that too can be compensated with great football IQ, anticipation and accuracy. If you have these 3, you may rarely NEED to throw it that hard.

Of course, there is more to it than just velocity in a relatively sterile situation. However, since everyone is now being measured in the same way, it does give us some basis for comparative arm strength.

Next comes the ability to make good throws off-platform and from different arm angles. Mahomes is the master at that. I don't know if I have ever seen anyone better. We have also seen Purdy make some very good throws in those situations as well.

And all that spins around football IQ and the other things you mentioned. Just knowing how to take something off to make it more catchable is an obvious plus. Purdy checks the boxes here as well.

I don't think there has been a qb in nfl history that plays the way mahommes does and can throw the way he does, accurately. That's why I shy away from comparing him to anyone as a qb, just when I'm talking about specific traits he has.

Purdys football iq is outstanding. It's honestly ridiculous for this point in his career. I think that is telling of how serious and dedicated he's been to playing qb since highschool. Couple that with all of his starts and you can tell he goes back through the film and critiques it all and try's to figure out what he could of done differently in situations. The awareness is beautiful

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:
Fun fact from Frelund at NFL.com: Will Levis had the highest recorded ball speed of all 2022 college QBs - 58 MPH.

Brock Purdy at 56 MPH is not far behind.

Damn, seems like this draft class doesn't have too many guys with a strong huh. I mean that's more than good enough, it's just interesting.

+ Show all quotes
According to a Buffalo source, Josh Allen stills hold the combine record at 62 MPH. (Kaepernick was 59 MPH at the combine.) Mahomes was 60 MPH. (One report had Justin Herbert at 55 MPH at the combine.) There have been very few others that threw faster than 58, according to my research. The average NFL ball speed is 54 MPH, according to verious sources.

It seems there is a lot of misinformation out there as to what constitutes a "strong arm." However, as far as putting some mustard on the ball when needed, Purdy has shown he can do that as well as anybody short of Allen and Mahomes, and a small handful of others.

Now, when he comes back with his bionic arm, and fueled by his intense work ethic to improve, he may blast right by Josh Allen.

Great info!

I'd imagine the only real difference in those 56-60 is the ability to throw that hard off platform. But that too can be compensated with great football IQ, anticipation and accuracy. If you have these 3, you may rarely NEED to throw it that hard.

Of course, there is more to it than just velocity in a relatively sterile situation. However, since everyone is now being measured in the same way, it does give us some basis for comparative arm strength.

Next comes the ability to make good throws off-platform and from different arm angles. Mahomes is the master at that. I don't know if I have ever seen anyone better. We have also seen Purdy make some very good throws in those situations as well.

And all that spins around football IQ and the other things you mentioned. Just knowing how to take something off to make it more catchable is an obvious plus. Purdy checks the boxes here as well.

No doubt. It shows you he can do it.

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