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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by tankle104:
The Insane Rise of Brock Purdy

look how far we have come in a few years, from taking a knee is disrespect to our country now to this, never been better to be a 9er fan! gettin my cheap #13 jersey from asia soon Lol

You wouldn't be American if you weren't going cheap on the jersey! Hahaha
I'm really hoping Purdy can repeat his performance from last season. Now more than ever since Trey is gone.I have to admit that I'm still not 100% convinced that he's a long term solution. His sample size is still pretty small.

If you look at JG's stats last year and compare them to Brock, they're nearly identical. The one area that Brock is better is TD%. He was 7.6% vs 5.2% for JG. If he ends up being a healthy version of JG then that's okay but he still wouldn't be the top 5 QB that many of us want. Still a healthier version of JG could win a SB.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I'm really hoping Purdy can repeat his performance from last season. Now more than ever since Trey is gone.I have to admit that I'm still not 100% convinced that he's a long term solution. His sample size is still pretty small.

If you look at JG's stats last year and compare them to Brock, they're nearly identical. The one area that Brock is better is TD%. He was 7.6% vs 5.2% for JG. If he ends up being a healthy version of JG then that's okay but he still wouldn't be the top 5 QB that many of us want. Still a healthier version of JG could win a SB.

I think Purdy's year depends on the running back. CMC, Mason, TDP, Elijah etc... If this team has to win on Purdy's arm alone (without CMC for example) that's a tall order for any QB, let alone a 2nd year player. Maybe after another couple of years, Kyle can get by with Brock and a subpar RB squad (unlikely as Kyle has a knack for picking RB's) due to Brock's QB development. A good runningback is a QB's best friend. Good news is that the 49er RB squad looks stacked.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I'm really hoping Purdy can repeat his performance from last season. Now more than ever since Trey is gone.I have to admit that I'm still not 100% convinced that he's a long term solution. His sample size is still pretty small.

If you look at JG's stats last year and compare them to Brock, they're nearly identical. The one area that Brock is better is TD%. He was 7.6% vs 5.2% for JG. If he ends up being a healthy version of JG then that's okay but he still wouldn't be the top 5 QB that many of us want. Still a healthier version of JG could win a SB.

I think Purdy's year depends on the running back. CMC, Mason, TDP, Elijah etc... If this team has to win on Purdy's arm alone (without CMC for example) that's a tall order for any QB, let alone a 2nd year player. Maybe after another couple of years, Kyle can get by with Brock and a subpar RB squad (unlikely as Kyle has a knack for picking RB's) due to Brock's QB development. A good runningback is a QB's best friend. Good news is that the 49er RB squad looks stacked.

This offense is going to struggle a lot more than we currently do if CMC goes down. He opens up so much because he is not only versatile, but excellent at everything. Not having a player like him on the field really changes how a team plays is and the play calls kyle has as his disposal. Need him to stay healthy.

im not 100% convinced about Brock yet either but I'm very confident. Need to see more lf him before I'm convinced but I feel really good about it. I haven't seen a reason to think otherwise. Jimmy isn't a good enough reason, regardless of the stats, Brock played the position better than jimmy ever had last year and he did while actually executing the offense. Not some dumb downed version that was essentially back yard football.
Originally posted by tankle104:
This offense is going to struggle a lot more than we currently do if CMC goes down. He opens up so much because he is not only versatile, but excellent at everything. Not having a player like him on the field really changes how a team plays is and the play calls kyle has as his disposal. Need him to stay healthy.

im not 100% convinced about Brock yet either but I'm very confident. Need to see more lf him before I'm convinced but I feel really good about it. I haven't seen a reason to think otherwise. Jimmy isn't a good enough reason, regardless of the stats, Brock played the position better than jimmy ever had last year and he did while actually executing the offense. Not some dumb downed version that was essentially back yard football.

we were still one of the best offenses without CMC just went to another level with CMC
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by tankle104:
This offense is going to struggle a lot more than we currently do if CMC goes down. He opens up so much because he is not only versatile, but excellent at everything. Not having a player like him on the field really changes how a team plays is and the play calls kyle has as his disposal. Need him to stay healthy.

im not 100% convinced about Brock yet either but I'm very confident. Need to see more lf him before I'm convinced but I feel really good about it. I haven't seen a reason to think otherwise. Jimmy isn't a good enough reason, regardless of the stats, Brock played the position better than jimmy ever had last year and he did while actually executing the offense. Not some dumb downed version that was essentially back yard football.

we were still one of the best offenses without CMC just went to another level with CMC

Yeah we weren't bad but it would just make things a lot harder. I think with Brock and the other talent, we would still be a top 10 offense but with cmc we are a top 3.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I'm really hoping Purdy can repeat his performance from last season. Now more than ever since Trey is gone.I have to admit that I'm still not 100% convinced that he's a long term solution. His sample size is still pretty small.

If you look at JG's stats last year and compare them to Brock, they're nearly identical. The one area that Brock is better is TD%. He was 7.6% vs 5.2% for JG. If he ends up being a healthy version of JG then that's okay but he still wouldn't be the top 5 QB that many of us want. Still a healthier version of JG could win a SB.

I think Purdy's year depends on the running back. CMC, Mason, TDP, Elijah etc... If this team has to win on Purdy's arm alone (without CMC for example) that's a tall order for any QB, let alone a 2nd year player. Maybe after another couple of years, Kyle can get by with Brock and a subpar RB squad (unlikely as Kyle has a knack for picking RB's) due to Brock's QB development. A good runningback is a QB's best friend. Good news is that the 49er RB squad looks stacked.

This offense is going to struggle a lot more than we currently do if CMC goes down. He opens up so much because he is not only versatile, but excellent at everything. Not having a player like him on the field really changes how a team plays is and the play calls kyle has as his disposal. Need him to stay healthy.

im not 100% convinced about Brock yet either but I'm very confident. Need to see more lf him before I'm convinced but I feel really good about it. I haven't seen a reason to think otherwise. Jimmy isn't a good enough reason, regardless of the stats, Brock played the position better than jimmy ever had last year and he did while actually executing the offense. Not some dumb downed version that was essentially back yard football.

Agree on Jimmy taking a much longer time than Matt Ryan to absorb the Kyle offense. I think it took Jimmy till last year to really get down the passing offense then he goes to the Raiders. But that's OK, we got Purdy who's a much better version of Jimmy.

The RB is important to the WCO because it's predicated on touch timing and pasing. The short passing game tries to manipulate the Linebackers, and one big way to maniputate the LB's is through the run fakes. You have to have that touch, timing and anticipation for the play action pass to work. If you have a vertical attack, then you are going to be dealing with DB's and cover two type schemes rather than the linebackers in coverage. The WCO and Kyle's offense really stresses the LB's - and it's no wonder that our LB's are the best in the NFL because of the kind of offense they have to practice against every day. As long as Kyle has a good RB that can credibly sell the run fake, Purdy is going to burn a lot of defenses this year.
I'm convinced, will he be undefeated this year? Likely no lol but..while ya all are waiting..Brock will be winning:) Unless an injury happens..he is him lol
Stats aside, Brock looked way better than Jimmy based on the eye test. His scramble ability is leagues above and looks more accurate.
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Stats aside, Brock looked way better than Jimmy based on the eye test. His scramble ability is leagues above and looks more accurate.

Did anyone else hold their breath on the goal line scramble and last second cut back v Broncos?

Exactly how we lost JG to a torn ACL
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Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Stats aside, Brock looked way better than Jimmy based on the eye test. His scramble ability is leagues above and looks more accurate.

Did anyone else hold their breath on the goal line scramble and last second cut back v Broncos?

Exactly how we lost JG to a torn ACL

Yah I did!!!

I'm praying with all my might that the 49ers not only found themselves a franchise QB but a healthy one from here on out.
Originally posted by Montana:
I'm convinced, will he be undefeated this year? Likely no lol but..while ya all are waiting..Brock will be winning:) Unless an injury happens..he is him lol

I look at "convinced" as it's a sure thing, I just need to see some more before I'm there, but I'm about as confident as you can be regarding him.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Stats aside, Brock looked way better than Jimmy based on the eye test. His scramble ability is leagues above and looks more accurate.

Did anyone else hold their breath on the goal line scramble and last second cut back v Broncos?

Exactly how we lost JG to a torn ACL

Yah I did!!!

I'm praying with all my might that the 49ers not only found themselves a franchise QB but a healthy one from here on out.

Same, I wanted Brock to go out of bounds, instead he cuts it back and runs into two defenders. I got major PSTD after that play.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I'm really hoping Purdy can repeat his performance from last season. Now more than ever since Trey is gone.I have to admit that I'm still not 100% convinced that he's a long term solution. His sample size is still pretty small.

If you look at JG's stats last year and compare them to Brock, they're nearly identical. The one area that Brock is better is TD%. He was 7.6% vs 5.2% for JG. If he ends up being a healthy version of JG then that's okay but he still wouldn't be the top 5 QB that many of us want. Still a healthier version of JG could win a SB.

I think Purdy's year depends on the running back. CMC, Mason, TDP, Elijah etc... If this team has to win on Purdy's arm alone (without CMC for example) that's a tall order for any QB, let alone a 2nd year player. Maybe after another couple of years, Kyle can get by with Brock and a subpar RB squad (unlikely as Kyle has a knack for picking RB's) due to Brock's QB development. A good runningback is a QB's best friend. Good news is that the 49er RB squad looks stacked.

This offense is going to struggle a lot more than we currently do if CMC goes down. He opens up so much because he is not only versatile, but excellent at everything. Not having a player like him on the field really changes how a team plays is and the play calls kyle has as his disposal. Need him to stay healthy.

im not 100% convinced about Brock yet either but I'm very confident. Need to see more lf him before I'm convinced but I feel really good about it. I haven't seen a reason to think otherwise. Jimmy isn't a good enough reason, regardless of the stats, Brock played the position better than jimmy ever had last year and he did while actually executing the offense. Not some dumb downed version that was essentially back yard football.

Agree on Jimmy taking a much longer time than Matt Ryan to absorb the Kyle offense. I think it took Jimmy till last year to really get down the passing offense then he goes to the Raiders. But that's OK, we got Purdy who's a much better version of Jimmy.

The RB is important to the WCO because it's predicated on touch timing and pasing. The short passing game tries to manipulate the Linebackers, and one big way to maniputate the LB's is through the run fakes. You have to have that touch, timing and anticipation for the play action pass to work. If you have a vertical attack, then you are going to be dealing with DB's and cover two type schemes rather than the linebackers in coverage. The WCO and Kyle's offense really stresses the LB's - and it's no wonder that our LB's are the best in the NFL because of the kind of offense they have to practice against every day. As long as Kyle has a good RB that can credibly sell the run fake, Purdy is going to burn a lot of defenses this year.

Everyone seems to agree that the RB is a QBs best friend and yet most aren't being paid very well. The guy that can help the QB as much or more than a WR because he can run, catch asses and block is under valued in this era.

If you look at Brocks skills and Jimmy's skills they are similar. Brock sees the whole field better but JG has a really quick release. They're both accurate on short to medium passes but not as good as some on the deep passes. Brock moves better in the pocket than JG but neither is a threat to run. As I said, if Brock can stay healthy that would make him a better version of JG and we got to a SB with him.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Stats aside, Brock looked way better than Jimmy based on the eye test. His scramble ability is leagues above and looks more accurate.

Did anyone else hold their breath on the goal line scramble and last second cut back v Broncos?

Exactly how we lost JG to a torn ACL

Yah I did!!!

I'm praying with all my might that the 49ers not only found themselves a franchise QB but a healthy one from here on out.

Every qb we've had since kyle has been here has been willing to take big hits to make a throw, or fights on runs for an extra yard - and as admirable as that is, it's a ticking time bomb with injuries, As we've seen for the last 6 years.

sometimes protecting yourself is more important than completing a pass or getting an extra yard, I think those should only happen in the right situations.

if it's week 2, just go down and fight another play. It's better than fighting mental demons during rehab.
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