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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well systems that emphasize strong arms are - in a sense - much simpler. You will have WR's that match that systems needs. In a Coryell system, you'll have very fast agile WR's that can separate and if married with a strong accurate arm, they are very tough to stop. You'll get a lot of deep coverage and big cushins from the DBs (Tyreek hill comes to mind). Lynn Swan, Stallworth, Bob Hays... etc...are other examples. A strong accurate arm would eat that up just like the short passes in a WCO. Steelers with the Air Coryell offense have won multiple super bowls too, don't forget.

The problem with Russel Wilson is that he sucks at the short game needed for a WCO that Pete wants to implement. At least that's my observation. Russel never really, in my opinion, fit with the WCO really well. It's a matter of what the HC wants to implement on his team because how he preferes his system is how he's going to draft. I like a QB with a strong arm because that forces the defense to defend a lot more ground than a QB with a average arm. Having said that - Purdy's arm is plenty strong for Kyle's offense. It's not a limiter for Kyles offense at all. It's just that to a certain degree Trey's arm is so much stronger and more accurate in the longer ranges than Brock's arm - but again that's not what Kyle really wants in a QB.

How do you think Russ Wilson will do in Sean Payton's system? Reports are that he's struggling. It's a lot of short to intermediate throws, isn't it?

I think he will do decent in Sean Payton's system, but to me Russ is more of a better long ball thrower (like Lance) vs a guy like Purdy who's just a natural at the short game. Like I hope Lance short game will be like Russ' short game, eventually decent but not outstanding in my opinion. I think for Lance a longer range kind of offense would be better for him. Still have that short game, but until Lance masters that, have those sweet spot passes for Lance be the main ingredient in his offense.
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by tankle104:

I love that mooch loves brock

I think Brock made every 49ers fans head exploded after he got into the Miami game and then the following week against Tampa. None of us could wrap our heads around what was happening. It's a great continuing story from Brock.
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Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by tankle104:
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Not sure if posted yet.

To me, I think it's cool how on even the good plays - there are a lot of things he can improve upon. He will just get better and better.

Yes. The people who said Brock is hitting the ceiling already or close to hit the ceiling don't know what they are talking about. There are like an unlimited number of things Brock can improve on.

Agree, and there are a lot of things that Kyle can improve on with Brock too. That screen to Kittle, I'd have liked to have seen a screen coverage beater on the other side. Maybe a deep post or a stutter go, but it looked like some eye candy nothing routes for the defense.

Then again, preseason is all about plain vanilla offense. We'll see the real offense in Blitzburg.
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Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:


Not sure if posted yet.

To me, I think it's cool how on even the good plays - there are a lot of things he can improve upon. He will just get better and better.

Yes. The people who said Brock is hitting the ceiling already or close to hit the ceiling don't know what they are talking about. There are like an unlimited number of things Brock can improve on.

Agree, and there are a lot of things that Kyle can improve on with Brock too. That screen to Kittle, I'd have liked to have seen a screen coverage beater on the other side. Maybe a deep post or a stutter go, but it looked like some eye candy nothing routes for the defense.

Then again, preseason is all about plain vanilla offense. We'll see the real offense in Blitzburg.

Yeah, the plays seemed pretty basic and vanilla - almost like he called them to not show off the offense this year that he plans to execute with Brock. Still shouldn't be calling a 7 step drop with s backup left tackle and a new right tackle.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and there are a lot of things that Kyle can improve on with Brock too. That screen to Kittle, I'd have liked to have seen a screen coverage beater on the other side. Maybe a deep post or a stutter go, but it looked like some eye candy nothing routes for the defense.

Then again, preseason is all about plain vanilla offense. We'll see the real offense in Blitzburg.

Is there even such a thing as screen coverage beater ? Because on the screen your linemen go downfield in a hurry with timingg. You'll just get hit with a ineligible man downfield by the time you let the ball go on a deep post on the other side of the field.
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:


Not sure if posted yet.

To me, I think it's cool how on even the good plays - there are a lot of things he can improve upon. He will just get better and better.
I feel like he was throwing that screen away, just into the open space where no one was at. Maybe it's risking to throw away a ball like that, but I chalk it up to him just having that much vision.

Yeah, that one didn't bother me. Interesting weird back step he kept doing though. I wonder what's that about, if it's even an issue.

Something to keep an eye on.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and there are a lot of things that Kyle can improve on with Brock too. That screen to Kittle, I'd have liked to have seen a screen coverage beater on the other side. Maybe a deep post or a stutter go, but it looked like some eye candy nothing routes for the defense.

Then again, preseason is all about plain vanilla offense. We'll see the real offense in Blitzburg.

Is there even such a thing as screen coverage beater ? Because on the screen your linemen go downfield in a hurry with timingg. You'll just get hit with a ineligible man downfield by the time you let the ball go on a deep post on the other side of the field.

Usually the QB only look at the screen side, and if it is not there throw is to the ground or somehow get rid of the ball, so I don't think a screen coverage beater is a thing.

I also don't think the defense has a screen coverage either. You just have defenders who recognize the screen earlier and disrupt the play.

Anyway, I might be wrong.
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I think Brock made every 49ers fans head exploded after he got into the Miami game and then the following week against Tampa. None of us could wrap our heads around what was happening. It's a great continuing story from Brock.

i remember the sequence of games all the way up to the double fake in Seattle that night.

I kept thinking this is a Mullens flash.

After he did the double fake and ran for that 1st down while injured I allowed myself to believe he might be him.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and there are a lot of things that Kyle can improve on with Brock too. That screen to Kittle, I'd have liked to have seen a screen coverage beater on the other side. Maybe a deep post or a stutter go, but it looked like some eye candy nothing routes for the defense.

Then again, preseason is all about plain vanilla offense. We'll see the real offense in Blitzburg.

Purdy hasn't tested his arm yet. Throwing deep is a big concern and defenses will shut us down if he can't make those throws.
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Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and there are a lot of things that Kyle can improve on with Brock too. That screen to Kittle, I'd have liked to have seen a screen coverage beater on the other side. Maybe a deep post or a stutter go, but it looked like some eye candy nothing routes for the defense.

Then again, preseason is all about plain vanilla offense. We'll see the real offense in Blitzburg.

Is there even such a thing as screen coverage beater ? Because on the screen your linemen go downfield in a hurry with timingg. You'll just get hit with a ineligible man downfield by the time you let the ball go on a deep post on the other side of the field.

I've seen Joe do it once, it was a screen to Roger, and the defense squatted on the screen by basically doing a short zone at the screen side waiting for the screen pass to Roger to knock it down or kill Roger once he caught it. On the other side, Rice ran some kind of go rout (I remember a stutter go) and basically outran the coverage to that side and Joe just laid the ball out nice and easy and it was a big gain or a TD. I don't really remember the end of the play.
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Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and there are a lot of things that Kyle can improve on with Brock too. That screen to Kittle, I'd have liked to have seen a screen coverage beater on the other side. Maybe a deep post or a stutter go, but it looked like some eye candy nothing routes for the defense.

Then again, preseason is all about plain vanilla offense. We'll see the real offense in Blitzburg.

Purdy hasn't tested his arm yet. Throwing deep is a big concern and defenses will shut us down if he can't make those throws.

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Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and there are a lot of things that Kyle can improve on with Brock too. That screen to Kittle, I'd have liked to have seen a screen coverage beater on the other side. Maybe a deep post or a stutter go, but it looked like some eye candy nothing routes for the defense.

Then again, preseason is all about plain vanilla offense. We'll see the real offense in Blitzburg.

Purdy hasn't tested his arm yet. Throwing deep is a big concern and defenses will shut us down if he can't make those throws.

He's going to be fine. I saw the tweet about pitch counts. I think they are just being safe with Brock. It's a long season. I"m sure Trent will have those veterans days off too. Nice thing about this team is if we got Bosa and Hargrave on the DLine - we'll have a defense that can also be pretty good shutting down Pittsburg too.
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and there are a lot of things that Kyle can improve on with Brock too. That screen to Kittle, I'd have liked to have seen a screen coverage beater on the other side. Maybe a deep post or a stutter go, but it looked like some eye candy nothing routes for the defense.

Then again, preseason is all about plain vanilla offense. We'll see the real offense in Blitzburg.

Purdy hasn't tested his arm yet. Throwing deep is a big concern and defenses will shut us down if he can't make those throws.

He's going to be fine. I saw the tweet about pitch counts. I think they are just being safe with Brock. It's a long season. I"m sure Trent will have those veterans days off too. Nice thing about this team is if we got Bosa and Hargrave on the DLine - we'll have a defense that can also be pretty good shutting down Pittsburg too.

Pitch count doesn't bother me one bit.

the team has been pretty transparent on how he will be handled through camp.

seems prudent to me.
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ok.

Take a look at the Dallas playoff game last year and how they shut down his short and intermediate throws. Purdy still needs to hit receivers outside the numbers, through tight windows and deep to keep NFL defenses honest. That is still a big question mark. Small QBs like Brees and Wilson can do it and he needs to do it too to succeed in this league.
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Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by Crown:
ok.

Take a look at the Dallas playoff game last year and how they shut down his short and intermediate throws. Purdy still needs to hit receivers outside the numbers and deep to keep NFL defenses honest. That is still a big question mark. Small QBs like Brees and Wilson can do it and he needs to do it too to succeed in this league.

I remember that the 9ers won that game.
I remember that he did damn good in the playoffs for a rookie.

I don't think KS is even a fan of the deep pass anymore - perhaps for ball control reasons.
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