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Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock Purdy's pitch count, according to Kyle Shanahan, is about 700 throws per week. The 49ers wanted to cut that in half this week, to about 350, and that's why Purdy was throwing a bit less during early drills on Monday
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 30, 2023
Spoke w/ former #49ers QB Alex Smith about San Francisco's changes under center. He has "such empathy" for Trey Lance, who will "get another chance." But he's also big on Brock Purdy: "He's just built (for this). It's not a fluke." Praised the latter's processing and composure.
— Cody J. Benjamin (@CodyJBenjamin) August 30, 2023
Originally posted by tankle104:
What's interesting is that his stats in some games were held back, like against the Bucs - it was over at halftime essentially and we were just trying to run the clock out.
I think it was the cards game when he hit kittle at the end of the game on the 1 yard line but we just ran out time. There were a lot of blowouts down that stretch cause we were balling so much.
man I can't wait for the season to start. I'm so excited to see how Brock does and how good this team can be.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by tankle104:
What's interesting is that his stats in some games were held back, like against the Bucs - it was over at halftime essentially and we were just trying to run the clock out.
I think it was the cards game when he hit kittle at the end of the game on the 1 yard line but we just ran out time. There were a lot of blowouts down that stretch cause we were balling so much.
man I can't wait for the season to start. I'm so excited to see how Brock does and how good this team can be.
Ooooh ok now this comes into play.
Not knocking Brock for that... but just thinking back to 2012-2014 when I used to bring that up and many on the forum would conveniently ignore that. 😏
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by tankle104:
What's interesting is that his stats in some games were held back, like against the Bucs - it was over at halftime essentially and we were just trying to run the clock out.
I think it was the cards game when he hit kittle at the end of the game on the 1 yard line but we just ran out time. There were a lot of blowouts down that stretch cause we were balling so much.
man I can't wait for the season to start. I'm so excited to see how Brock does and how good this team can be.
Ooooh ok now this comes into play.
Not knocking Brock for that... but just thinking back to 2012-2014 when I used to bring that up and many on the forum would conveniently ignore that. 😏
Originally posted by Giedi:
Kyle just ended the Coach interview and Maiocco asked about the Jimmy quote about it being a weird QB situation in San Francisco. I sense not a lot of love lost between Kyle and Jimmy at this point in time. I'm still pretty sure that Jimmy's not happy that Kyle drafted two QB's that eventually - one of them replaced him. In other words, that *Weird* quote that Jimmy gave - describing the SF QB situation has (I think) a lot more to do with him resenting having to leave SF, vs him not liking Kyle or his offensive system.
Kyle mentioned that Purdy (or SF QB's in general) are taught to not look at the WR's otherwise it will draw the defenses to that WR, and taught to look downfield. That's a tough thing to do specially if you don't have a lot of experience like Trey. I think the biggest thing about Brock is that ability to recall the formations and WR routes with precision and be able to see the WR without having to stare at him prior to snapping the pass to them. For Brock to be able to pick it up in a year when more experienced QB's like Matt Ryan and Jimmy G. struggled with it - makes him so much more impressive in my eyes.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by tankle104:
What's interesting is that his stats in some games were held back, like against the Bucs - it was over at halftime essentially and we were just trying to run the clock out.
I think it was the cards game when he hit kittle at the end of the game on the 1 yard line but we just ran out time. There were a lot of blowouts down that stretch cause we were balling so much.
man I can't wait for the season to start. I'm so excited to see how Brock does and how good this team can be.
Ooooh ok now this comes into play.
Not knocking Brock for that... but just thinking back to 2012-2014 when I used to bring that up and many on the forum would conveniently ignore that. 😏
If I had to guess, I'd guess the poster you are talking to was in middle school during that time period.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Ooooh ok now this comes into play.
Not knocking Brock for that... but just thinking back to 2012-2014 when I used to bring that up and many on the forum would conveniently ignore that. 😏
Originally posted by tankle104:
Spoke w/ former #49ers QB Alex Smith about San Francisco's changes under center. He has "such empathy" for Trey Lance, who will "get another chance." But he's also big on Brock Purdy: "He's just built (for this). It's not a fluke." Praised the latter's processing and composure.
— Cody J. Benjamin (@CodyJBenjamin) August 30, 2023
"Brock, man, I couldn't tell you how impressed I've been with his demeanor," Smith said. "I was out at some practices this summer. He looks phenomenal. He's just built (for this). It's not a fluke. You know, at the combine, we love the measurables. We love to measure height, weight, 40 times. But in the end, if you can't process information and you're not accurate, you're not gonna make it in the NFL. Brock has both those things."
Originally posted by tankle104:
Spoke w/ former #49ers QB Alex Smith about San Francisco's changes under center. He has "such empathy" for Trey Lance, who will "get another chance." But he's also big on Brock Purdy: "He's just built (for this). It's not a fluke." Praised the latter's processing and composure.
— Cody J. Benjamin (@CodyJBenjamin) August 30, 2023
"Brock, man, I couldn't tell you how impressed I've been with his demeanor," Smith said. "I was out at some practices this summer. He looks phenomenal. He's just built (for this). It's not a fluke. You know, at the combine, we love the measurables. We love to measure height, weight, 40 times. But in the end, if you can't process information and you're not accurate, you're not gonna make it in the NFL. Brock has both those things."
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Spoke w/ former #49ers QB Alex Smith about San Francisco's changes under center. He has "such empathy" for Trey Lance, who will "get another chance." But he's also big on Brock Purdy: "He's just built (for this). It's not a fluke." Praised the latter's processing and composure.
— Cody J. Benjamin (@CodyJBenjamin) August 30, 2023
"Brock, man, I couldn't tell you how impressed I've been with his demeanor," Smith said. "I was out at some practices this summer. He looks phenomenal. He's just built (for this). It's not a fluke. You know, at the combine, we love the measurables. We love to measure height, weight, 40 times. But in the end, if you can't process information and you're not accurate, you're not gonna make it in the NFL. Brock has both those things."
Alex Smith gets it, smart dude
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about the measurables. I think Sid and Al Davis (when Sid was developing his forward pass philosophy) no kidding - they took some garbage cans and lined them up on the football field - and began measuring the Defensive coverages and calculated the areas covered by the defenders vs the areas not covered by the defenders, the probabilities of interceptions vs completions and the like, and came up with the Air Coryell kind of passing concepts that now are employed by many systems.
Basically, the idea was that a football field is about 50 yards wide and 100 yards long (40 of those yards is usable by the QB to throw passes depth wise - generally speaking). That's a ton of space to be covered by defenders and the idea of Sid's was to just use math and see how much more space wide open there is, vs what the individual 11 defenders can cover.
Even in Sid's offense, you didn't really need a rocket arm to work it. But he did want a QB that can be accurate and throw on time. I agree with Alex Smith, Purdy is an ideal QB for this system.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about the measurables. I think Sid and Al Davis (when Sid was developing his forward pass philosophy) no kidding - they took some garbage cans and lined them up on the football field - and began measuring the Defensive coverages and calculated the areas covered by the defenders vs the areas not covered by the defenders, the probabilities of interceptions vs completions and the like, and came up with the Air Coryell kind of passing concepts that now are employed by many systems.
Basically, the idea was that a football field is about 50 yards wide and 100 yards long (40 of those yards is usable by the QB to throw passes depth wise - generally speaking). That's a ton of space to be covered by defenders and the idea of Sid's was to just use math and see how much more space wide open there is, vs what the individual 11 defenders can cover.
Even in Sid's offense, you didn't really need a rocket arm to work it. But he did want a QB that can be accurate and throw on time. I agree with Alex Smith, Purdy is an ideal QB for this system.
That's pretty cool, did you learn that first paragraph from a book or is it just something you remember hearing about back then?
but yeah, I think Brock has the perfect skill set/mind set to operate this offense at a high level and alongside Kyle. I've said it many times on here, but I believe a coach & QB need to be very aligned on how they see the game, in order to get the most out of the offense. Need both to be essentially one common mind/unit - especially since Kyle is the play caller too. I think we've found that.
It's early and Brock still needs to prove that but I think he's done about as good of a job as you possibly can up to this point, I anticipate he will keep it up.
for the first time in a long time, I feel like our offense is the strongest unit and I'm least concerned about. The defense worries me a little bit, not much, because of the adjustment to the blitz packages. Then special teams keeps me up at night right now. Lol it's going to cost us some games this year if they don't get their behinds in gear shortly.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about the measurables. I think Sid and Al Davis (when Sid was developing his forward pass philosophy) no kidding - they took some garbage cans and lined them up on the football field - and began measuring the Defensive coverages and calculated the areas covered by the defenders vs the areas not covered by the defenders, the probabilities of interceptions vs completions and the like, and came up with the Air Coryell kind of passing concepts that now are employed by many systems.
Basically, the idea was that a football field is about 50 yards wide and 100 yards long (40 of those yards is usable by the QB to throw passes depth wise - generally speaking). That's a ton of space to be covered by defenders and the idea of Sid's was to just use math and see how much more space wide open there is, vs what the individual 11 defenders can cover.
Even in Sid's offense, you didn't really need a rocket arm to work it. But he did want a QB that can be accurate and throw on time. I agree with Alex Smith, Purdy is an ideal QB for this system.
That's pretty cool, did you learn that first paragraph from a book or is it just something you remember hearing about back then?
but yeah, I think Brock has the perfect skill set/mind set to operate this offense at a high level and alongside Kyle. I've said it many times on here, but I believe a coach & QB need to be very aligned on how they see the game, in order to get the most out of the offense. Need both to be essentially one common mind/unit - especially since Kyle is the play caller too. I think we've found that.
It's early and Brock still needs to prove that but I think he's done about as good of a job as you possibly can up to this point, I anticipate he will keep it up.
for the first time in a long time, I feel like our offense is the strongest unit and I'm least concerned about. The defense worries me a little bit, not much, because of the adjustment to the blitz packages. Then special teams keeps me up at night right now. Lol it's going to cost us some games this year if they don't get their behinds in gear shortly.
Al Davis gave an interview along with Walsh way back in the day and they kind of told their favorite stories about football in general. That interview always stuck in my mind for some reason.
I love how Kyle's designed this offense for Brock. It's going to be tough getting to Brock with the multiple TE's he's got on the roster now. If Philly is going to pass rush Brock, Kyle will just run CMC and Mason down Riddik's throat, and turn Riddick into road graded asphalt.