QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
For anyone worried about Brock's size.. obviously we have many examples of *shorter* QBs being successful.

But Brock, at 6'1", is only one inch shorter than Steve Young (and even Steve says his listed 6'2" height is alittle eeeh)

But more importantly, as some know, Brock is 220 pounds... now I remember Steve Young being around 230lbs when he was with us, but wiki lists him at 215lbs.

I'm guessing that listed weight was Steve coming out of college? Anyone else remember Steve being more than 220lbs?

Eitherway Brock is good there. Anyway reason I brought that up is I have some co-workers worried about him being too small. I'm some here have also heard it from others.

The difference is that Steve Young had a much stronger arm and was a lot more mobile.

lol, Steve Young with the canon. Dude, he was my favorite player growing up, but his arm was pretty average. As is Brock's. The point is whether you can make all the throws on the field and both Young and Brock can. Furthermore, Brock is plenty athletic and has a pocket mobility that was borderline elite at times (see the dropped TD to Ayiuk in playoffs). Young could scramble, for sure, but let's not act like Brock is just some pedestrian with a noodle arm back there who only throws dump offs.

Your hard on for Darnold's arm is boring and renders any rational discussion meaningless since you have a proclivity to putting down the guy who has earned the spot ahead of him on the depth chart. So much goes into what makes a great QB. I hope Darnold has that stuff, but I'd much rather Purdy just continue doing what he's did last year and be a top five QB on a rookie salary then next few years.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
For anyone worried about Brock's size.. obviously we have many examples of *shorter* QBs being successful.

But Brock, at 6'1", is only one inch shorter than Steve Young (and even Steve says his listed 6'2" height is alittle eeeh)

But more importantly, as some know, Brock is 220 pounds... now I remember Steve Young being around 230lbs when he was with us, but wiki lists him at 215lbs.

I'm guessing that listed weight was Steve coming out of college? Anyone else remember Steve being more than 220lbs?

Eitherway Brock is good there. Anyway reason I brought that up is I have some co-workers worried about him being too small. I'm some here have also heard it from others.

The difference is that Steve Young had a much stronger arm and was a lot more mobile.

lol, Steve Young with the canon. Dude, he was my favorite player growing up, but his arm was pretty average. As is Brock's. The point is whether you can make all the throws on the field and both Young and Brock can. Furthermore, Brock is plenty athletic and has a pocket mobility that was borderline elite at times (see the dropped TD to Ayiuk in playoffs). Young could scramble, for sure, but let's not act like Brock is just some pedestrian with a noodle arm back there who only throws dump offs.

Your hard on for Darnold's arm is boring and renders any rational discussion meaningless since you have a proclivity to putting down the guy who has earned the spot ahead of him on the depth chart. So much goes into what makes a great QB. I hope Darnold has that stuff, but I'd much rather Purdy just continue doing what he's did last year and be a top five QB on a rookie salary then next few years.

arm talent is so overrated by fans as long as they can throw 40+ yards I don't think its a big deal

Originally posted by Chance:
lol, Steve Young with the canon. Dude, he was my favorite player growing up, but his arm was pretty average. As is Brock's. The point is whether you can make all the throws on the field and both Young and Brock can. Furthermore, Brock is plenty athletic and has a pocket mobility that was borderline elite at times (see the dropped TD to Ayiuk in playoffs). Young could scramble, for sure, but let's not act like Brock is just some pedestrian with a noodle arm back there who only throws dump offs.

Your hard on for Darnold's arm is boring and renders any rational discussion meaningless since you have a proclivity to putting down the guy who has earned the spot ahead of him on the depth chart. So much goes into what makes a great QB. I hope Darnold has that stuff, but I'd much rather Purdy just continue doing what he's did last year and be a top five QB on a rookie salary then next few years.

What are you talking about? Steve Young had a MUCH stronger arm than Brock Purdy. He could make throws all over the field. He could hit Rice and Owens outside the numbers and deep. He could throw balls with velocity.

Brock had a total of 10 yards rushing last year and you want to compare him to one of the greatest QB rushers in NFL history? I have no words.

Originally posted by ritz126:
arm talent is so overrated by fans as long as they can throw 40+ yards I don't think its a big deal

Many of us can throw 40 yards too including myself. That doesn't make us Steve Young 2.0.

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by ritz126:
arm talent is so overrated by fans as long as they can throw 40+ yards I don't think its a big deal

Many of us can throw 40 yards too including myself. That doesn't make us Steve Young 2.0.

i disagree with the Steve Young comp that's for sure There is no argument from me that he lacks a lot of the physical traits of an elite QB but there have been many elite qbs who have the intangibles or the "it factor" and I think he has that. He processes the defense very fast has a quick release and not afraid to make tight window throws the first 2 are what makes an offense effective and efficient

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by ritz126:
arm talent is so overrated by fans as long as they can throw 40+ yards I don't think its a big deal

Many of us can throw 40 yards too including myself. That doesn't make us Steve Young 2.0.

I got 40 yards once in a punt, pass, kick contest 😎

Originally posted by ritz126:
i disagree with the Steve Young comp that's for sure There is no argument from me that he lacks a lot of the physical traits of an elite QB but there have been many elite qbs who have the intangibles or the "it factor" and I think he has that. He processes the defense very fast has a quick release and not afraid to make tight window throws the first 2 are what makes an offense effective and efficient

I don't see it yet to be honest. I saw Russell Wilson and Drew Brees as small QBs who had the "it factor" because they could beat you anywhere. Most of Purdy's passes are screens and hitches and passes up the middle to wide open receivers. Out of all of his passes last year, I only saw a few "wow" passes. Time will tell but he'll need to extend his range more to have that it factor.

Originally posted by ritz126:
arm talent is so overrated by fans as long as they can throw 40+ yards I don't think its a big deal

Its not just distance but also velocity. I'm certain many here can throw 40 yards but how fast it can get there is a question

Originally posted by Patton:
I got 40 yards once in a punt, pass, kick contest 😎

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Man candlestick was place that you could just feel the magic there. So many great games and incredible moments in NFL history were there.

That stadium was a f**king dump, it held great memories because of the dynasty teams, but other than that the place sucked

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

The Good was that first win against the Cowgirls - the Catch.

The Bad was Roger Craig's fumble.

The Ugly was wading into the restroom behind the Upper Reserved seats on the northeast side of the field to take a leak. THAT was UGLY. It was almost enough to make you quit drinking beer.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Its not just distance but also velocity. I'm certain many here can throw 40 yards but how fast it can get there is a question

Exactly right. It's like the difference between a pitcher who can throw 99 mph and another who can only do 85 mph. One will be an all-star and the other will be a 5.5 ERA pitcher. Speed matters big time on deep balls because a slow one will be intercepted.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by ritz126:
arm talent is so overrated by fans as long as they can throw 40+ yards I don't think its a big deal

Its not just distance but also velocity. I'm certain many here can throw 40 yards but how fast it can get there is a question

And accuracy. And touch. And timing. And spacial awareness. And defense Recognition. So on and so forth. How do you do when 240+Lb men are barreling down on you?

there is so much that goes into being a great QB and being an elite athlete is pretty far down on the list of important attributes.

Drew Bree's, Tom Brady, Peyton manning - ran like 5.2 40s. Brady was a laughing stock and considered one of the most unathletic qbs coming out of a draft. Lol I remember mooch saying that.

as long as the physical requirements are met, and there are minimums that you need, anything more doesn't really make much of a difference. Especially since you can work on your arm strength, velocity, etc. anyone who thinks that being athletic is a critical component of becoming a great qb just doesn't understand the quarterback position and what it entails. Sure it helps, but it's no where near the top of the list of important qualities.

Hopefully Brock stays healthy this year. I bet next off season he would like to spend a majority of it with a qb coach working on things. He was able to improve this year, even during rehab, but he was limited.

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Chance:

lol, Steve Young with the canon. Dude, he was my favorite player growing up, but his arm was pretty average. As is Brock's. The point is whether you can make all the throws on the field and both Young and Brock can. Furthermore, Brock is plenty athletic and has a pocket mobility that was borderline elite at times (see the dropped TD to Ayiuk in playoffs). Young could scramble, for sure, but let's not act like Brock is just some pedestrian with a noodle arm back there who only throws dump offs.

Your hard on for Darnold's arm is boring and renders any rational discussion meaningless since you have a proclivity to putting down the guy who has earned the spot ahead of him on the depth chart. So much goes into what makes a great QB. I hope Darnold has that stuff, but I'd much rather Purdy just continue doing what he's did last year and be a top five QB on a rookie salary then next few years.

What are you talking about? Steve Young had a MUCH stronger arm than Brock Purdy. He could make throws all over the field. He could hit Rice and Owens outside the numbers and deep. He could throw balls with velocity.

Brock had a total of 10 yards rushing last year and you want to compare him to one of the greatest QB rushers in NFL history? I have no words.

Steve Young was also my favorite player growing up and I agree. He could RIP IT. Dude was a physical specimen who could literally flick it with ease. A simple highlight can easily prove that.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by ritz126:
arm talent is so overrated by fans as long as they can throw 40+ yards I don't think its a big deal

Its not just distance but also velocity. I'm certain many here can throw 40 yards but how fast it can get there is a question

this.....

I had/have a weak arm.....47 yards was max for me....and it resembled a punt..... Many people can throw 40 yards, but that has nothing to do with an NFL pass.