QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
And regarding his arm, he's definitely got a strong enough arm. It's stronger than you'd think IMO and the ball gets to its intended target quicker than you'd think - he can throw the deeper outs and he can definitely get it downfield, and with accuracy. He may not have the howitzer like some others in the league, and maybe his passes can look a little deceiving because he's not the biggest QB out there. He's definitely not the smallest, either, and he also has a strong base with very quick feet.

When I think noodle arm, a QB that comes to mind is someone like Shaun Hill (yet Hill was a gamer IMO).

his arm strength overall is not a plus. Just is what it is…it's part of the reason he was the last pick in the draft. He's got other attributes (like you mentioned) that make up for that.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
What posters have been saying all offseason but some didn't want to hear it. They would rather talk about his "noodle arm". It's as if there is more to being QB than arm strength.

Some people want to see it play out before proclaiming him "the one" fans are so short sighted and instant gratification based. 200 passing attempts against poor defenses (for the most part) wasn't gonna put me over the edge to be fully on board. Sorry if that bothered you. I never said he stunk or anything.

I'll root for him every step of the way and I've talked about how I like his moxie. Not a single person said he didn't have that quality.

Yes he does have a subpar arm, that isn't gonna change and even he's stated he doesn't have that tool in his tool belt. Arm ability matters when you play QB at the highest level in the world. It just does regardless of how hard you want to poo poo it. No it's clearly not the only thing that matters, we've seen plenty of successful QBs not have that. It is however a part of playing the position. Same s**t with Jimmy not being mobile or really able to extend plays. You s**t on that ability because he doesn't possess it…Brock does and ya'll love it. Funny how that works.

like Eric Crocker said…Speed doesn't matter until you need it. Same thing with arm strength.

I'm not gonna start some baloney argument…Great first week by the whole team including the QB. Let's keep it going in the right direction!

what kinda arm strength are you looking for that will make you feel better ?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
And regarding his arm, he's definitely got a strong enough arm. It's stronger than you'd think IMO and the ball gets to its intended target quicker than you'd think - he can throw the deeper outs and he can definitely get it downfield, and with accuracy. He may not have the howitzer like some others in the league, and maybe his passes can look a little deceiving because he's not the biggest QB out there. He's definitely not the smallest, either, and he also has a strong base with very quick feet.

When I think noodle arm, a QB that comes to mind is someone like Shaun Hill (yet Hill was a gamer IMO).

his arm strength overall is not a plus. Just is what it is…it's part of the reason he was the last pick in the draft. He's got other attributes (like you mentioned) that make up for that.

IIRC the article I read, his ball speed was clocked in the 52-53 MPH range in college against a pro average of 55. Then after college, he went to that QB guru who increased his speed to 56-57. The same article noted that Josh Allen had the highest speed at 62 MPH, with Mahomes and Herbert at 60. No other QBs were in that same range. Hence, it would be fair to say Purdy has a slightly stronger-than-average arm.

I swear to god we are going to debate this mans arm strength until the end of time. If he fails as a starter its not because of arm strength, itll be because of turnovers, decision making, injuries, etc

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I didn't see anything special about Latu at Bama. He was a 6th rd guy imo. Taking a kicker in the top 100 is blasphemy regardless. There was players to be had like you said, especially along that OL.

It's crazy based off how much OL prospects need to develop (because college football is massively different for them), you should always be drafting OL.

FWIW Pitt runs zone blocking concepts all the same.

He was pretty good at TE for a DE prospect. Puzzling pick to be sure. Saban does s**t like that all the time though, gets players by recruiting them at one position, then changes them to another position.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I swear to god we are going to debate this mans arm strength until the end of time. If he fails as a starter its not because of arm strength, itll be because of turnovers, decision making, injuries, etc

Yup.

So did "Speak" with Shady, Acho and Joy just not cover the niners this game? I was looking forward to "Ok he may have one of the greatest starts to a career... but he needs to show me something." From the hater crew, not Acho though he's the only good analyst on that show.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
So did "Speak" with Shady, Acho and Joy just not cover the niners this game? I was looking forward to "Ok he may have one of the greatest starts to a career... but he needs to show me something." From the hater crew, not Acho though he's the only good analyst on that show.

Acho been rocking with the 9ers for a few seasons now

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
So did "Speak" with Shady, Acho and Joy just not cover the niners this game? I was looking forward to "Ok he may have one of the greatest starts to a career... but he needs to show me something." From the hater crew, not Acho though he's the only good analyst on that show.

Acho been rocking with the 9ers for a few seasons now

Picked them to win it all this year.

His arm strength is fine lol better than fine

Glad he was the last pick, that chip is good motivation lol

HIM

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
And regarding his arm, he's definitely got a strong enough arm. It's stronger than you'd think IMO and the ball gets to its intended target quicker than you'd think - he can throw the deeper outs and he can definitely get it downfield, and with accuracy. He may not have the howitzer like some others in the league, and maybe his passes can look a little deceiving because he's not the biggest QB out there. He's definitely not the smallest, either, and he also has a strong base with very quick feet.

When I think noodle arm, a QB that comes to mind is someone like Shaun Hill (yet Hill was a gamer IMO).

his arm strength overall is not a plus. Just is what it is…it's part of the reason he was the last pick in the draft. He's got other attributes (like you mentioned) that make up for that.

That's the paradox of - if you have a cannon, you do not learn how to throw with anticipation, touch, or read as defense as well (or at all lol) because you can just gun it in there at the last second. Most of these guys realize the hard way that doesn't matter nearly as much once you reach the NFL. Of course there are exceptions or guys who put it all together.

Now take a guy like Purdy, or Mullens. They didn't have cannons so they had to develop everything else to compensate. Mullens imo could read very well, but just did not have a good enough arm.

Purdy's mental awareness, anticipation, and accuracy make up for his "lack" of arm strength so far. His arm is plenty good to me though from what we have seen. He can do everything except maybe gun a laser to the the sidelines etc. Certainly not like Mahomes or Allen, but imo that stuff tends to happen on a busted play or scramble.

Montana never had a cannon, but god damn that ball was always where the receiver was GOING to be. Young certainly learned this well by watching him, but imo nobody comes close since Montana at hitting guys in stride week in and week out.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
So did "Speak" with Shady, Acho and Joy just not cover the niners this game? I was looking forward to "Ok he may have one of the greatest starts to a career... but he needs to show me something." From the hater crew, not Acho though he's the only good analyst on that show.

I honestly had high hopes for Joy when she was Cowherd's sidekick. So disappointed that she decided to be just another run of the mill hot take personality that sounds ignorant.

Originally posted by Montana:
His arm strength is fine lol better than fine

Glad he was the last pick, that chip is good motivation lol

HIM

Yep he can make all the throws that Kyles Scheme needs him too.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
What posters have been saying all offseason but some didn't want to hear it. They would rather talk about his "noodle arm". It's as if there is more to being QB than arm strength.

Some people want to see it play out before proclaiming him "the one" fans are so short sighted and instant gratification based. 200 passing attempts against poor defenses (for the most part) wasn't gonna put me over the edge to be fully on board. Sorry if that bothered you. I never said he stunk or anything.

I'll root for him every step of the way and I've talked about how I like his moxie. Not a single person said he didn't have that quality.

Yes he does have a subpar arm, that isn't gonna change and even he's stated he doesn't have that tool in his tool belt. Arm ability matters when you play QB at the highest level in the world. It just does regardless of how hard you want to poo poo it. No it's clearly not the only thing that matters, we've seen plenty of successful QBs not have that. It is however a part of playing the position. Same s**t with Jimmy not being mobile or really able to extend plays. You s**t on that ability because he doesn't possess it…Brock does and ya'll love it. Funny how that works.

like Eric Crocker said…Speed doesn't matter until you need it. Same thing with arm strength.

I'm not gonna start some baloney argument…Great first week by the whole team including the QB. Let's keep it going in the right direction!

He does not have a subpar arm, lol. It's already been discussed ad nauseum and debunked. Average NFL velocity is 50-51 mph, Purdy hits 55-56 mph. I don't know why you choose to ignore this documented fact.

I love QBs that arm big, have strong arms and can run really well. (who doesn't). However I've finally decide that I'd rather have a QB that makes quick and smart decisions than an athletic one that make critical mistakes. In other words, for Kyle's offense I'd rather have Purdy than Allen. I know Allen would probably be better in Kyle's offense than he is in Buffalo but when you have the big arm you often go for the HR than the short gain that nets a first down.