QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
He does not have a subpar arm, lol. It's already been discussed ad nauseum and debunked. Average NFL velocity is 50-51 mph, Purdy hits 55-56 mph. I don't know why you choose to ignore this documented fact.

MPH lol. So you're telling me colt McCoy has a stronger arm than Herbert and Flacco. Yeah I can debunk that silly stat.

again his arm strength isn't a plus, it's been shown in college and in the NFL. It's also not the only thing that matters. He does other things well.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I swear to god we are going to debate this mans arm strength until the end of time. If he fails as a starter its not because of arm strength, itll be because of turnovers, decision making, injuries, etc

CK had a hose that would put Joe Montana to shame, it simply didn't matter
there is a lot more to the game than your fastball
ask the Steelers about his arm talent, I would be curious their replies

yup

Purdinator 2: Judgement Game

"Come with me if you want to win"

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by dj43:
IIRC the article I read, his ball speed was clocked in the 52-53 MPH range in college against a pro average of 55. Then after college, he went to that QB guru who increased his speed to 56-57. The same article noted that Josh Allen had the highest speed at 62 MPH, with Mahomes and Herbert at 60. No other QBs were in that same range. Hence, it would be fair to say Purdy has a slightly stronger-than-average arm.

Lol even with this post ppl will be like, "Not sure about his arm strength, doesn't throw deep(what?), small sample size.." 🙃

Lol how about we just have a damn good qb and enjoy the ride?

Also top 15 qbs as mentioned in the Parsons video? I would say top 5.

Guess he has to win the SB for ppl to feel comfortable with saying that he is damn good. Marino was great, never won an SB. But the way he is going, SB future is bright. Hope it's in Vegas!!!!

Let's goooo

I understand the sentiment if they are only reading the college scouting reports and are not tuned in to what he did after he left Iowa.

Originally posted by njninersfan420:
Just got back from Pittsburg. I fn ?? BCB!!

Big Christian Brock

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Brandon Aiyuk on KNBR talks about Brock Purdy's poise:

"He always plays with extreme poise, but also with urgency. He's always on point and ready to go. He plays with that swag that leads all the way down to the rest of the offense and the rest of the team. He has IT." pic.twitter.com/GOZkt1WsFn

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) September 12, 2023

What posters have been saying all offseason but some didn't want to hear it. They would rather talk about his "noodle arm". It's as if there is more to being QB than arm strength.

And regarding his arm, he's definitely got a strong enough arm. It's stronger than you'd think IMO and the ball gets to its intended target quicker than you'd think - he can throw the deeper outs and he can definitely get it downfield, and with accuracy. He may not have the howitzer like some others in the league, and maybe his passes can look a little deceiving because he's not the biggest QB out there. He's definitely not the smallest, either, and he also has a strong base with very quick feet.

When I think noodle arm, a QB that comes to mind is someone like Shaun Hill (yet Hill was a gamer IMO).

Exactly! He can hit every part of the field as needed. DJ has posted several times how he increased his velocity to slightly above average, during his lead up to the draft. I remember many mocked Desuan Watson for his weak arm during the combine for his 49 mph passes. His "weak" arm didn't appear to hinder him. And by comparison, Purdy velocity was at 55 mph if IRC, entering the draft.

Either way, there is more to QB than just that, and Purdy has it. His "noodle arm" is just crap some posters obsessed about because that's the only thing Lance had over him

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dj43:
IIRC the article I read, his ball speed was clocked in the 52-53 MPH range in college against a pro average of 55. Then after college, he went to that QB guru who increased his speed to 56-57. The same article noted that Josh Allen had the highest speed at 62 MPH, with Mahomes and Herbert at 60. No other QBs were in that same range. Hence, it would be fair to say Purdy has a slightly stronger-than-average arm.

Ball speed has next to nothing to do with arm strength in a football game. Unless you're telling me Colt McCoy has a stronger arm than Herbert and Flacco. Also you're telling me Brock's arm strength is better than theirs…which is in fact fake news

"Fake news" is the battle cry of the willfully ignorant. It is a fact that Purdy throws with an above average velocity on his passes. You can choose to ignore a fact, but facts don't change because you refuse to acknowledge them.

We're still talking about Purdys arm? Seriously?

Within the first few plays of his college highlights you see him hurl multiple 30-50+ yard passes lol.

This doesn't mean he has a cannon. He's just got adequate strength in terms distance and velocity. Not quite average, as he seems to demonstrate overall slightly above average arm strength, which is more than enough when paired with his other abilities.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by dj43:
IIRC the article I read, his ball speed was clocked in the 52-53 MPH range in college against a pro average of 55. Then after college, he went to that QB guru who increased his speed to 56-57. The same article noted that Josh Allen had the highest speed at 62 MPH, with Mahomes and Herbert at 60. No other QBs were in that same range. Hence, it would be fair to say Purdy has a slightly stronger-than-average arm.

Lol even with this post ppl will be like, "Not sure about his arm strength, doesn't throw deep(what?), small sample size.." 🙃

Lol how about we just have a damn good qb and enjoy the ride?

Also top 15 qbs as mentioned in the Parsons video? I would say top 5.

Guess he has to win the SB for ppl to feel comfortable with saying that he is damn good. Marino was great, never won an SB. But the way he is going, SB future is bright. Hope it's in Vegas!!!!

Let's goooo

I understand the sentiment if they are only reading the college scouting reports and are not tuned in to what he did after he left Iowa.

Combine was documented,. So we know for sure what it was. You are just taking the word of someone who is paid to work for Brock as proof.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:


if you hate Kyle or Brock your gonna f**king hate this.

Really exciting stuff.

Since the play was highlighted a few posts back, I also though Kittle kind of ran a lazy route on the ball PP got his hands on over the middle. Nice to see it confirmed by a pro.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by dj43:
IIRC the article I read, his ball speed was clocked in the 52-53 MPH range in college against a pro average of 55. Then after college, he went to that QB guru who increased his speed to 56-57. The same article noted that Josh Allen had the highest speed at 62 MPH, with Mahomes and Herbert at 60. No other QBs were in that same range. Hence, it would be fair to say Purdy has a slightly stronger-than-average arm.

Lol even with this post ppl will be like, "Not sure about his arm strength, doesn't throw deep(what?), small sample size.." 🙃

Lol how about we just have a damn good qb and enjoy the ride?

Also top 15 qbs as mentioned in the Parsons video? I would say top 5.

Guess he has to win the SB for ppl to feel comfortable with saying that he is damn good. Marino was great, never won an SB. But the way he is going, SB future is bright. Hope it's in Vegas!!!!

Let's goooo

Honestly having a hose is a nice bonus, and it helps your QB be right even when he's wrong. But having great timing, vision, and understanding or defenses/leverage is a lot more important, and Brock has all those things. And for the sake of argument, say he can't throw it deep outside like some of the elite guys can. Maybe not. But he can move in the pocket and make the pass shorter. He can anticipate and throw it with great timing so it doesn't have to be a rocket. Etc.

He doesn't have a super strong arm, but it's strong enough to dominate in the 20 yard window between the hashes, and that's where the game winning throws are made anyway.

Most importantly, so far Brock has shown himself to be elite in the red zone. You don't need a cannon to dominate where it matters most. He has what it takes to make those red zone trips count, and that's far more important than being able to throw across his body forty yards down the field.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Honestly having a hose is a nice bonus, and it helps your QB be right even when he's wrong. But having great timing, vision, and understanding or defenses/leverage is a lot more important, and Brock has all those things. And for the sake of argument, say he can't throw it deep outside like some of the elite guys can. Maybe not. But he can move in the pocket and make the pass shorter. He can anticipate and throw it with great timing so it doesn't have to be a rocket. Etc.

He doesn't have a super strong arm, but it's strong enough to dominate in the 20 yard window between the hashes, and that's where the game winning throws are made anyway.

Most importantly, so far Brock has shown himself to be elite in the red zone. You don't need a cannon to dominate where it matters most. He has what it takes to make those red zone trips count, and that's far more important than being able to throw across his body forty yards down the field.

All of this.

I think people misunderstand what arm strength is. Going up to a MPH machine and tossing it as hard as you can in a controlled setting is not the same as throwing a rope off one foot or not having to reset your feet and step into a throw. Being able to toss a ball 40+ with flick of a wrist… Some dudes have that skill set. It's not all that matters, but acting like it doesn't matter at all just because our guy doesn't have that is being naive.

I love Brock just like everyone…he keeps playing like this then none of it matters. Also I didn't bring it up, someone else did (which had zero to do with what I posted).

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dj43:
IIRC the article I read, his ball speed was clocked in the 52-53 MPH range in college against a pro average of 55. Then after college, he went to that QB guru who increased his speed to 56-57. The same article noted that Josh Allen had the highest speed at 62 MPH, with Mahomes and Herbert at 60. No other QBs were in that same range. Hence, it would be fair to say Purdy has a slightly stronger-than-average arm.

Ball speed has next to nothing to do with arm strength in a football game. Unless you're telling me Colt McCoy has a stronger arm than Herbert and Flacco. Also you're telling me Brock's arm strength is better than theirs…which is in fact fake news

Now, this may sound like blasphemy, but hear me out. I am old enough to have seen nearly every home game Joe Montana played. The way the ball gets to the receiver from Brock Purdy reminds me very much of Montana. It is always a catchable ball that arrives at just the right time.

One contrast that I recall: There was a time in the mid-80s, I don't remember the year, when Montana was hurt and Walsh brought in Jeff Kemp who had a rocket arm compared to Joe. Early in the first game, Kemp tossed one 50 yards down the sideline to a streaking Rice for a long game. We were all jazzed. Some went so far as to say Joe's job might be in danger. However, by the end of the second game, we were all glad to have Joe back. Kemp had proven what we all know - arm strength is not the end all be all. (stating the obvious)

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
He does not have a subpar arm, lol. It's already been discussed ad nauseum and debunked. Average NFL velocity is 50-51 mph, Purdy hits 55-56 mph. I don't know why you choose to ignore this documented fact.

MPH lol. So you're telling me colt McCoy has a stronger arm than Herbert and Flacco. Yeah I can debunk that silly stat.

again his arm strength isn't a plus, it's been shown in college and in the NFL. It's also not the only thing that matters. He does other things well.

No, don't go trying to twist my words. I am trying to tell you that Purdy has a slightly above average arm, according to the velocity of his throws. That velocity is above the average of 50-51 mph. I don't know how McCoy gets brought into the conversation.