QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
What posters have been saying all offseason but some didn't want to hear it. They would rather talk about his "noodle arm". It's as if there is more to being QB than arm strength.

Some people want to see it play out before proclaiming him "the one" fans are so short sighted and instant gratification based. 200 passing attempts against poor defenses (for the most part) wasn't gonna put me over the edge to be fully on board. Sorry if that bothered you. I never said he stunk or anything.

I'll root for him every step of the way and I've talked about how I like his moxie. Not a single person said he didn't have that quality.

Yes he does have a subpar arm, that isn't gonna change and even he's stated he doesn't have that tool in his tool belt. Arm ability matters when you play QB at the highest level in the world. It just does regardless of how hard you want to poo poo it. No it's clearly not the only thing that matters, we've seen plenty of successful QBs not have that. It is however a part of playing the position. Same s**t with Jimmy not being mobile or really able to extend plays. You s**t on that ability because he doesn't possess it…Brock does and ya'll love it. Funny how that works.

like Eric Crocker said…Speed doesn't matter until you need it. Same thing with arm strength.

I'm not gonna start some baloney argument…Great first week by the whole team including the QB. Let's keep it going in the right direction!

I haven't seen Purdy say he has a noodle arm like posters claimed. Yes, he doesn't have a top tier arm and he's acknowledged that. Just because he doesn't have Allen or Mahomes type arm doesn't automatically mean he has a weenie arm either lol

Nice page number. I dig it.

f**k. I was too late.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think people misunderstand what arm strength is. Going up to a MPH machine and tossing it as hard as you can in a controlled setting is not the same as throwing a rope off one foot or not having to reset your feet and step into a throw. Being able to toss a ball 40+ with flick of a wrist… Some dudes have that skill set. It's not all that matters, but acting like it doesn't matter at all just because our guy doesn't have that is being naive.

I love Brock just like everyone…he keeps playing like this then none of it matters. Also I didn't bring it up, someone else did (which had zero to do with what I posted).

Agree with this for the most part.

It's why it was so confusing people would overrate the Dallas Cowboys number 3 QB's arm talent. He could throw it really hard when he was planted and had space.

Brock has enough arm strength… it's definitely not a strength of his game though. I'll take everything else. Very rare to get it all.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I haven't seen Purdy say he has a noodle arm like posters claimed. Yes, he doesn't have a top tier arm and he's acknowledged that. Just because he doesn't have Allen or Mahomes type arm doesn't automatically mean he has a weenie arm either lol

I think he's referring to when Brock said that he doesn't throw deep balls

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Purdinator 2: Judgement Game

"Come with me if you want to win"

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
You seem to be off your rocker. You barged in accusing me of something when I was simply was having a conversation with other posters about how we would rank our top 5 and 10 QBs. Please calm down.

this you signing up for an account on the WZ the day Trey was traded? screen name checks out.

This guy wasn't a Trey fan, all his posts were just talking about Darnold and how amazing he is.

You fell for that lol

Ya I did that thing where you try and use your brain.

It picked up in the fact that he never posted in the Trey thread, was researching a s**t of load of Darnold stats or already knew them, and gushed about Darnold non stop.

I can't believe I fell for this Trey Stan!

Lmao get help buddy, Treys gone stop letting him live rent free in your head

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
What posters have been saying all offseason but some didn't want to hear it. They would rather talk about his "noodle arm". It's as if there is more to being QB than arm strength.

Some people want to see it play out before proclaiming him "the one" fans are so short sighted and instant gratification based. 200 passing attempts against poor defenses (for the most part) wasn't gonna put me over the edge to be fully on board. Sorry if that bothered you. I never said he stunk or anything.

I'll root for him every step of the way and I've talked about how I like his moxie. Not a single person said he didn't have that quality.

Yes he does have a subpar arm, that isn't gonna change and even he's stated he doesn't have that tool in his tool belt. Arm ability matters when you play QB at the highest level in the world. It just does regardless of how hard you want to poo poo it. No it's clearly not the only thing that matters, we've seen plenty of successful QBs not have that. It is however a part of playing the position. Same s**t with Jimmy not being mobile or really able to extend plays. You s**t on that ability because he doesn't possess it…Brock does and ya'll love it. Funny how that works.

like Eric Crocker said…Speed doesn't matter until you need it. Same thing with arm strength.

I'm not gonna start some baloney argument…Great first week by the whole team including the QB. Let's keep it going in the right direction!

He does not have a subpar arm, lol. It's already been discussed ad nauseum and debunked. Average NFL velocity is 50-51 mph, Purdy hits 55-56 mph. I don't know why you choose to ignore this documented fact.

We know exactly why he chooses to ignore this lol
If it's not an Allen or Mahomes type arm than it must be a noodle arm

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
What posters have been saying all offseason but some didn't want to hear it. They would rather talk about his "noodle arm". It's as if there is more to being QB than arm strength.

Some people want to see it play out before proclaiming him "the one" fans are so short sighted and instant gratification based. 200 passing attempts against poor defenses (for the most part) wasn't gonna put me over the edge to be fully on board. Sorry if that bothered you. I never said he stunk or anything.

I'll root for him every step of the way and I've talked about how I like his moxie. Not a single person said he didn't have that quality.

Yes he does have a subpar arm, that isn't gonna change and even he's stated he doesn't have that tool in his tool belt. Arm ability matters when you play QB at the highest level in the world. It just does regardless of how hard you want to poo poo it. No it's clearly not the only thing that matters, we've seen plenty of successful QBs not have that. It is however a part of playing the position. Same s**t with Jimmy not being mobile or really able to extend plays. You s**t on that ability because he doesn't possess it…Brock does and ya'll love it. Funny how that works.

like Eric Crocker said…Speed doesn't matter until you need it. Same thing with arm strength.

I'm not gonna start some baloney argument…Great first week by the whole team including the QB. Let's keep it going in the right direction!

what kinda arm strength are you looking for that will make you feel better ?

Not bottom tier among starting NFL QBs. Like I said it's only one thing, he does a bunch of other stuff well

Not sure how you can justify your claim by using someone else's ranking.

what has Brock done to show he doesn't have arm strength or what would you like him to do to show arm strength?

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
I'm just excited to see how he progresses this year.

I'm not that nervous about him like I was with many of our previous QBs.

Yeah I think he makes the team feel that way too, at ease.

You dont have a weak arm if you have shown you can make all the throws on the field. 80 yard bombs dont count, those are always going to be low percentage plays even for the most elite arm talents

A sign of a weak arm is you consistently are targeting tight ends with minimal connections with WRs *cough*Alex Smith*cough*

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
A sign of a weak arm is you consistently are targeting tight ends with minimal connections with WRs *cough*Alex Smith*cough*

Really a product of decision making and field vision, not arm strength. Aleck loved him some checkdowns.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
You seem to be off your rocker. You barged in accusing me of something when I was simply was having a conversation with other posters about how we would rank our top 5 and 10 QBs. Please calm down.

this you signing up for an account on the WZ the day Trey was traded? screen name checks out.

This guy wasn't a Trey fan, all his posts were just talking about Darnold and how amazing he is.

You fell for that lol

Ya I did that thing where you try and use your brain.

It picked up in the fact that he never posted in the Trey thread, was researching a s**t of load of Darnold stats or already knew them, and gushed about Darnold non stop.

I can't believe I fell for this Trey Stan!

Lmao get help buddy, Treys gone stop letting him live rent free in your head

Don't get mad at me because you couldn't connect two dots.

And thats rich coming from you, still living in the Jimmy G thread because you can't let him go

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
A sign of a weak arm is you consistently are targeting tight ends with minimal connections with WRs *cough*Alex Smith*cough*

Really a product of decision making and field vision, not arm strength. Aleck loved him some checkdowns.

column a and column b. but fear of pushing the ball comes from lack of confidence in your arm

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dj43:
IIRC the article I read, his ball speed was clocked in the 52-53 MPH range in college against a pro average of 55. Then after college, he went to that QB guru who increased his speed to 56-57. The same article noted that Josh Allen had the highest speed at 62 MPH, with Mahomes and Herbert at 60. No other QBs were in that same range. Hence, it would be fair to say Purdy has a slightly stronger-than-average arm.

Ball speed has next to nothing to do with arm strength in a football game. Unless you're telling me Colt McCoy has a stronger arm than Herbert and Flacco. Also you're telling me Brock's arm strength is better than theirs…which is in fact fake news

Um, I wouldn't say it has next to nothing to do with arm strength in a football game. It's a way to measure just that.

Different sport and different ball but it stands to reason that a guy who throws a baseball 100 mph (or more) at his top speed probably has a stronger arm than a guy throwing 94.

But it's also possible that the control and movement with the guy throwing 94 is superior so he's more effective.

I get what you're saying but it seems to me that ball velocity is actually a pretty good indicator of arm strength. Yes you need a strong arm to be able to stand and throw the football 60-70 yards down the field and not everyone can do that. But you're also not going to be doing that very many times in a football game. What you probably will have to do several times in a football game is have the zip to fit the ball into a tight window, either in the middle of the field or along the sidelines on an intermediate length pass.

But while it's just a mistake, your saying that people are saying/thinking Purdy has a stronger arm than Herbert is actually fake news when they say Purdy's ball velocity is 56-57 mph and Herbert's is 60 mph. So no, obviously, it wasn't indicated in any way that Purdy has a stronger arm than Herbert.